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[midnight tea]

 

I think she sent a fragment of herself, and possibly Urthemiel, through as a contingency. Her speech just a few hours earlier makes me not believe she is willing to give up everything for Solas when she still wants to do the things she does, so it was a way she could still do that as well as help him. Flemeth is nothing if not one that plans ahead. 

 

But that's the thing - since she seems to plan so much ahead, why would she be caught by someone while hastily 'sending' something through eluvian? I suppose this could be *yet another* contingency plan, but personally I think that Flemeth has been pretty well-prepared when she met Solas.

 

Anyway - I'll just repost my theory that I have once posted about it in a dreaded "lovefest" thread.

 

Personally I don't think this happened at all, and to be honest I'm not sure why there are quite a few people I saw who think that this is what happened. Because both him and Briala are there? Because he's excited in Winter Palace, when it's been established in the story that Solas enjoys court intrigue and a visit at the Winter Palace reminded him of how he enjoys it? This is some flimsy evidence.

 

After all, depending on who Inquisitor chose to be in their combat party (I assume all companions and advisers are in Halamshiral either way, judging from later banter) Solas has to be at Inquisitor's beck and call, and while he's definitely having fun in Winter Palace, he has to be very careful not to out himself. 

 

So no, I don't think this is when he took Briala's eluvians.

 

 

When do I think eluvian retaking began?

 

In Temple Of Mythal.

 

After all, look what surrounds the Well of Sorrows?

 

 

Eluvians. Not just one, but several of them. This is basically an eluvian hub. 

 

And remember how Solas tells us "She (Morrigan) is right about only one thing - we must take the power that lies within that Well".

 

So he's reluctant (either because he doesn't trust Morrigan or Inquisitor, or worries about Inky), but still advises to take it. Why, I wondered?

 

Well, I think I know the answer now. After all, what happens with the Well after it's been emptied?

 

Spoiler

 

A mysterious watery lady rises from the basin and collides with the eluvian. Interestingly enough, despite Inquisitor and the rest landing directly in Skyhold (they don't go through Crossroads, the order which they appear in Skyhold and the speed with which they do it mirrors the order and speed they've entered ToM eluvian) the water lady doesn't follow, possibly because she stayed IN the eluvian.

 

Basically, I think this is when the eluvian network got re-opened. There are no longer just a few eluvians "accidentally left ajar" (as Morrigan tells us) that must be pried open through knowledge, power or keys, but pretty much the entire network got itself revitalized.

 

We can see the effect of it if we have OGB world-state - the eluvian in Skyhold suddenly gets opened; and it gets itself opened into raw Fade - a feat Morrigan claims requires immense power. And I don't think this is solely because of Flemeths' or Kieran's power. I think the feat could be accomplished only because the eluvian network itself is buzzing with new energy.

 

It would also be another good reason for Solas to go after Flemythal and steal her power. After all, he did try to re-acquire access to eluvian network in The Masked Empire and killed Felassan for failing to do so and seeing how much the network is featured in Trespasser indicated that re-acquiring eluvians is absolutely crucial for Solas' plans to work. 

 

Then, of course, is this.

 

 

People usually interpret this moment as Flemeth "sending something through eluvian". I don't think this is that at all. Judging from past encounters and her pleased smile (after meeting with Inky and Morrigan in the Fade) Flemeth has long made contingency plans, so whatever she has in store for Morrigan or whoever else, she's likely sent or stored her energy away a long time ago. What she does here, IMO, is either revitalizing another part of eluvian network OR preparing herself to override Briala's password (or luring Solas by appearing to do so).

 

In other words, I don't think this is a coincidence at all that they meet under the eluvian or that one of the last scenes in the main game is this:

 

 

I think this is a moment when Solas not only took Mythal's power, but exactly when he took over the eluvian network.

 

Also... this eluvian... it's quite big, isn't it? Pretty much as big as the eluvian we see behind Solas (and to which he disappears into) in Trespasser. I don't think this is coincidence at all as well. I think that all the small hints and visual storytelling make it a far stronger case as to when exactly Solas gained eluvians for himself compared to Halamshiral.

 

[Illegitimus]

Because I decided to just rely on in game information instead of metagame information such as the author's words as well as things like fanfictions or headcannons and came to the realization that his virtues are not virtues, that being complex does not excuse one's plan to kill almost everyone else ?

 

But... the in game information consists of nothing but vague hints.  We don't know what Solas's reason for raising the veil were and we don't know how severe the consequences of lowering it will be.  

[Secret Rare]

His plan to save the world from evanuris? Worked.

 

His plan to lead a successful rebellion? Worked.

 

His plan to bet everything on Inquisition to deal with Corypheus crisis? Worked.

 

His plan to warn Inky about the Qunari plot and drawing them behind eluvians to save them? Worked.

 

Just because *some* of his plans didn't work, or didn't work as intended, or he's made mistakes doesn't mean that nothing he's ever done worked.

 

1) The Evanuris are not dead, merely locked away. The problem is still there, its not fully solved. So his plan partially worked. 

 

2) We don't know if his rebellion was successful or not. We only know for certain that he led a rebellion and that ancient Elvhenan had to deal with plenty of wars and rebellions.

 

3) Plot Armor. His plan works here because we cannot lose the game.

 

4) Plot Armor. His plan works here because we cannot lose the game.

 

So his plans can partially work or they require plot armor. What a great mastermind tactical planner.

 

Destroyed the world he knew to achieve it, great plan

 

That's why the modern-day elves paint themselves with the slave markings and think him a monster? While also venerating their once slavers, i might add. Great rebellion

 

Yeah, after his prior plan failed in a rather spectacular way

 

This actually worked. Holy crap the man is genius

I need to merge thesis and antithesis here.

 

1)Destroyed the world he knew to achieve it +The Evanuris are not dead

 

2)We don't know if his rebellion was successful or not but Modern-day elves paint themselves with the slave markings venerating their once slavers and think him a monster

 

3)His plan works here because we cannot lose the game while his  prior plan failed in a rather spectacular way and i would add he lost the Orb.

 

 

4)His plan works here because we cannot lose the game.Holy crap the man elf is genius

 

Synthesis completed.

[Almostfaceman]

But that's the thing - since she seems to plan so much ahead, why would she be caught by someone while hastily 'sending' something through eluvian? I suppose this could be *yet another* contingency plan, but personally I think that Flemeth has been pretty well-prepared when she met Solas.

 

Anyway - I'll just repost my theory that I have once posted about it in a dreaded "lovefest" thread.

 

You could very well be right. 

 

The reason I lean more towards it being a "contingency plan" is that this is what Flemeth is famous for. I don't look at Flemeth doing something mysterious with a shiny magical whatevers and think "eluvian network". I think "piece of Flemeth" since she brags about this in Dragon Age 2. 

 

And technically, in my playthroughs, there should be at least two Flemeths. I never kill her at Morrigans behest. There's the one at the hut and the one who rescues Hawke then makes jokes about being in two places at the same time.  

 

For all we know there's 20 of her busying about. 

 

Then we have the build-up-reveal of her story in Inquisition. We finally are told who she is and that she's on a mission to reach out and get back at who killed her. 

 

So what do I think? I think she's helping Solas bring the Evanuris back so she can take part in slaughtering them. 

 

Pure conjecture, just my thought process on the matter.

[German Soldier]

As for Bull, my point isn't why he did it, but that he can also turn against the player.

Of course he turns on the player he is following the demand of the Qun like the Inquisitor told him to do.

[midnight tea]

I need to merge thesis and antithesis here.

 

1). Destroyed the world he knew to achieve it +The Evanuris are not dead

 

2)We don't know if his rebellion was successful or not but Modern-day elves paint themselves with the slave markings venerating their once slavers and think him a monster

 

3)His plan works here because we cannot lose the game while his  prior plan failed in a rather spectacular way and i would add he lost the Orb.

 

 

4)His plan works here because we cannot lose the game.Holy crap the man elf is genius

 

Synthesis completed.

 

 

There's no "thesis and antithesis" here. What you're doing is nothing more than a perfect solution fallacy - you expect that for a plan to "work" it must go absolutely flawlessly, never mind any factors that can exclude that from ever being achievable.

 

So:

 

1). He saved the world from absolute annihilation by going against multiple super-powerful, god-like figures and so far the Evanuris are not a threat to it.

 

2). Whether people remember him as someone who freed them from slavery to Evanuris is beside the point. He freed them and his rebellion was so successful at that time that Evanuris have resorted to including him into the pantheon (after smear campaign propaganda too, which we find fragments of in Trespasser), either as a political ploy to turn his followers against him or because they thought it's a way to placate him.

 

3). and 4). It's insulting to your or anyone's intelligence to think that this is in any way a valid argument. And it's coming from someone who basically claimed at one point that since Solas hasn't got pretty much supernatural powers to guess absolutely everything that happens it means that he's stupid or naive.... and now suddenly he has a power to not only know perfectly that Inquisitor can win - he apparently can do that by peering through time and space right into BioWare writer's head!

 

*Solas thinks about how to achieve his goals*: "Hmmm, oh, I know! The player can never lose the game, so my plan will always work! GENIUS!"

 

Like.... how can you not see just how silly this is?

[ModernAcademic]

Kind of unrelated.

 

Is everyone for sure that Morrigan is Mythal now? Is Morrigan going to face off with Solas?

 

Good question. My guess is that she'll do what she intended to do ever since she got pregnant: as the Inheritor of the Next Age, she'll train the Old God, Kieran, to fulfill whatever destiny he has ahead of him. In other words, she'll train her son just as her mother trained her.

 

He's ten years old when we meet him in Inquisition. Therefore, if the next game happens ten years after Inquisition, Kieran should be ready to face Solas.

[midnight tea]

You could very well be right. 

 

The reason I lean more towards it being a "contingency plan" is that this is what Flemeth is famous for. I don't look at Flemeth doing something mysterious with a shiny magical whatevers and think "eluvian network". I think "piece of Flemeth" since she brags about this in Dragon Age 2. 

 

Well yes, but the very same reason that she's famous for her contingency plans makes me question that she was performing any haphazard contingency plan. Or that that 'contingency plan' had anything to do with sending something through eluvian, rather than doing something to the eluvian itself.

 

And technically, in my playthroughs, there should be at least two Flemeths. I never kill her at Morrigans behest. There's the one at the hut and the one who rescues Hawke then makes jokes about being in two places at the same time.  

 

Hang on - I always assume that the Flemeth in DAO and DA2 are one and the same, body and all. I mean, if she can come back from dead with relatively younger body (and that's assuming that in DAO she didn't just act the way like she's older than she appears in DA2), it means that she may have means to improve it from what we've seen in DAO.

 

Then we have the build-up-reveal of her story in Inquisition. We finally are told who she is and that she's on a mission to reach out and get back at who killed her. 

 

So what do I think? I think she's helping Solas bring the Evanuris back so she can take part in slaughtering them.

 

I think Solas's plans certainly play a role in achieving her goals - thing is that both in case of Flemythal and Solas I never really think we can ever take what they say as not meaning three different things at once or something else than what it seems to be. After all, we have enough reasons to suspect that Solas learned a lot of things from Mythal, which very likely includes mastering the art of obfuscation

 

*Inky to Solas at the very beginning if the game*: What did you do?

Solas: I did nothing.

 

*Well-drinking Morrigan after Flemeth uses Well powers to stop her from attacking*: What have you done to me?

Flemeth: I have done nothing!

 

So how Solas's plans feature in her own or how hers in his? I think we can try and speculate about it till we're blue on the face... or, you know, till DA4. Or 5. Or 6. Sigh...

[midnight tea]

Good question. My guess is that she'll do what she intended to do ever since she got pregnant: as the Inheritor of the Next Age, she'll train the Old God, Kieran, to fulfill whatever destiny he has ahead of him. In other words, she'll train her son just as her mother trained her.

 

He's ten years old when we meet him in Inquisition. Therefore, if the next game happens ten years after Inquisition, Kieran should be ready to face Solas.

 

Er, there's a problem here - Kieran doesn't exist in every world state. And in some he can just be a normal boy. Plus, the game doesn't really suggests anywhere that the "final showdown" will be between Kieran and Solas, or even between Morrigan and Solas. In fact Trespasser makes it pretty clear that that's on Inquisitor.

 

I mean... personally I think that there will be something that may involve Kieran (if he exists) or even just consequences of performing or not performing the Dark Ritual. They went through the effort of making the results of that decision be very distinct in Inquisition, so - at the moment of creating DAI - they appear to have some plans in that regard. I'm just not really sure what that will be.

[Almostfaceman]

 

Well yes, but the very same reason that she's famous for her contingency plans makes me question that she was performing any haphazard contingency plan. Or that that 'contingency plan' had anything to do with sending something through eluvian, rather than doing something to the eluvian itself.

 

 

Hang on - I always assume that the Flemeth in DAO and DA2 are one and the same, body and all. I mean, if she can come back from dead with relatively younger body (and that's assuming that in DAO she didn't just act the way like she's older than she appears in DA2), it means that she may have means to improve it from what we've seen in DAO.

 

 

 

When you take her amulet to the mountain with Merril this is what's said:

 

Hawke: "You were inside that amulet the entire time?"

Flemeth: "Just a piece. A small piece. But it was all I needed. A bit of security should the inevitable occur. And if i know my Morrigan it already has."

...

Hawke: "I don't understand. Are you some kind of vision?"

Flemeth: *laughs* "Must I only be in only one place? Bodies are such limiting things. I am but a fragment cast adrift from the whole. A bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm."

 

So when we meet Flemeth first, as Hawke flees Ferelden, it's around the time Flemeth has helped out the Hero of Ferelden. This meeting quoted above comes into play later, and clearly covers the bases for if we decide to kill Flemeth in Origins. 

 

So there's the body we can kill in Origins, and there's a body in the amulet that's released. So if you don't kill the body in Origins, that means there's two bodies. 

 

At least. 

 

Here's a video with the dialogue if you wanna check it out. 

 

[Addictress]

 

 

 

But that's the thing - since she seems to plan so much ahead, why would she be caught by someone while hastily 'sending' something through eluvian? I suppose this could be *yet another* contingency plan, but personally I think that Flemeth has been pretty well-prepared when she met Solas.

 

Anyway - I'll just repost my theory that I have once posted about it in a dreaded "lovefest" thread.

 

 

 

Wait so, you're saying the entire Eluvian network was opened once Morrigan drank from the well? Why is this necessary to prove Solas' sucking the power from Flemythal in the epilogue scene is when he re-acquired control of the network? Re-acquired exclusive control, you mean?

[Addictress]

When you take her amulet to the mountain with Merril this is what's said:

 

Hawke: "You were inside that amulet the entire time?"

Flemeth: "Just a piece. A small piece. But it was all I needed. A bit of security should the inevitable occur. And if i know my Morrigan it already has."

...

Hawke: "I don't understand. Are you some kind of vision?"

Flemeth: *laughs* "Must I only be in only one place? Bodies are such limiting things. I am but a fragment cast adrift from the whole. A bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm."

 

So when we meet Flemeth first, as Hawke flees Ferelden, it's around the time Flemeth has helped out the Hero of Ferelden. This meeting quoted above comes into play later, and clearly covers the bases for if we decide to kill Flemeth in Origins. 

 

So there's the body we can kill in Origins, and there's a body in the amulet that's released. So if you don't kill the body in Origins, that means there's two bodies. 

 

At least. 

 

Here's a video with the dialogue if you wanna check it out. 

 

Would a 'fragment' of Mythal count as a whole body? If it's just a fragment, is it greatly weakened? I'm still unclear on how the fragmenting works. Does the fragment grow into a whole?

[Hellion Rex]

Good question. My guess is that she'll do what she intended to do ever since she got pregnant: as the Inheritor of the Next Age, she'll train the Old God, Kieran, to fulfill whatever destiny he has ahead of him. In other words, she'll train her son just as her mother trained her.

 

He's ten years old when we meet him in Inquisition. Therefore, if the next game happens ten years after Inquisition, Kieran should be ready to face Solas.

Not necessarily. Mythal drains Kieran of the soul if he was made OGB, remember?

[Almostfaceman]

Would a 'fragment' of Mythal count as a whole body? If it's just a fragment, is it greatly weakened? I'm still unclear on how the fragmenting works. Does the fragment grow into a whole?

 

Well let's put it this way. While Mythal's fragment is residing in the amulet, there's a Mythal you can talk to in Ferelden that can fight you in dragon form. 

 

And the fragment in the Free Marches is powerful enough to turn into a dragon. 

 

So... yeah. She's no push-over even as a fragment. 

[Addictress]

Well let's put it this way. While Mythal's fragment is residing in the amulet, there's a Mythal you can talk to in Ferelden that can fight you in dragon form. 

 

And the fragment in the Free Marches is powerful enough to turn into a dragon. 

 

So... yeah. She's no push-over even as a fragment. 

True. I still feel great dread that every time she fragments, she weakens ;__;

[Addictress]

We're not really sure if Morrigan is a Mythal per se or her chosen successor, in more ways than just a new body for her. OGB Kieran calls her an Inheritor to Mythal, awaiting the new age, and dev notes (which at this point we don't know how much we can rely on) on post-epilogue scene suggest that she gave her powers to Solas under a condition that her godhood should be passed to Morrigan. What that means exactly though we'll have to see.

This lore is getting so awesome - I would have no earthly clue Morrigan would have such a future when I first saw her half-naked appearance in the Kocari Wilds teasing Alistair.

 

 I mean, maybe they wrote this stuff in..... later?

[Almostfaceman]

True. I still feel great dread that every time she fragments, she weakens ;__;

 

It very well may be that she does. We don't know enough yet to figure out what's going on. She seems to have all her mental faculties and powers. That could only be tested probably if she fought against another of the Evanuris or something comparable. Or a horde of Blight. She flat-out tells Morrigan that she can't defeat a horde of Blight. 

 

But it's for these reasons that I wouldn't be surprised that the body taken out by Solas isn't the only body of Flemeth that's kicking around Thedas. Or that she was doing something related to that with the Eluvian right before she meets up with Solas at the end of Inquistion. 

[Hellion Rex]

Would a 'fragment' of Mythal count as a whole body? If it's just a fragment, is it greatly weakened? I'm still unclear on how the fragmenting works. Does the fragment grow into a whole?

My interpretation of it was that when the fragment was revived, she kind of pulled the rest of herself from the Void to join the piece. 

[Addictress]

My interpretation of it was that when the fragment was revived, she kind of pulled the rest of herself from the Void to join the piece. 

Well if her true self was in the void waiting to be pulled through by that fragment, then who was back at Flemeth's hut fighting the warden? And why would she deem that copy of herself at the hut worthy of insuring?

[Almostfaceman]

My interpretation of it was that when the fragment was revived, she kind of pulled the rest of herself from the Void to join the piece. 

 

The only problem I have with that is that Flemeth just flat-out says she can be in more than one place at a time (see above). And the time-frame you release her from the amulet is within the time frame that she also has to be present in Ferelden at her hut during Origins. There is a bit of over-lap since Hawke flees when Lothering is attacked. 

[Hellion Rex]

It very well may be that she does. We don't know enough yet to figure out what's going on. She seems to have all her mental faculties and powers. That could only be tested probably if she fought against another of the Evanuris or something comparable. Or a horde of Blight. She flat-out tells Morrigan that she can't defeat a horde of Blight. 

 

But it's for these reasons that I wouldn't be surprised that the body taken out by Solas isn't the only body of Flemeth that's kicking around Thedas. Or that she was doing something related to that with the Eluvian right before she meets up with Solas at the end of Inquistion. 

This is part of why Flemeth/Mythal is especially fascinating to me at this moment of time. Her powers, though she claims to be nothing more than a shadow of her former self, appear to stronger than the majority of magic we have seen in Thedas. I couldn't imagine what power she had when at her zenith. 

 

And yeah, at the end of the day, Flemeth has always always been one step ahead of everyone else. I do not think she would have let Solas find her and do whatever it was he did without having several back up plans in place.

[midnight tea]

When you take her amulet to the mountain with Merril this is what's said:

 

Spoiler

Hawke: "You were inside that amulet the entire time?"

Flemeth: "Just a piece. A small piece. But it was all I needed. A bit of security should the inevitable occur. And if i know my Morrigan it already has."

...

Hawke: "I don't understand. Are you some kind of vision?"

Flemeth: *laughs* "Must I only be in only one place? Bodies are such limiting things. I am but a fragment cast adrift from the whole. A bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm."

 

So when we meet Flemeth first, as Hawke flees Ferelden, it's around the time Flemeth has helped out the Hero of Ferelden. This meeting quoted above comes into play later, and clearly covers the bases for if we decide to kill Flemeth in Origins. 

 

So there's the body we can kill in Origins, and there's a body in the amulet that's released. So if you don't kill the body in Origins, that means there's two bodies. 

 

At least. 

 

Here's a video with the dialogue if you wanna check it out. 

 

 

Like I said, with Flemeth (or Solas) I feel (can even say with relative certainty that I know) we can frequently expect for their words to mean a lot of things or not what we assume may be. I mentioned before that Flemeth even seems to derive some amusement from it (she pretty frequently makes comments that go about like: "Oh, so you think it's this is that? Haha, if you believe so, then it's certainly true *wink, wink-nudge, nudge*)

 

So what Flemeth means through "A bit of security should the inevitable occur. And if i know my Morrigan it already has." can may as well mean that she knows that eventually Morrigan will find out about the grimoire (I mean... she knows nonetheless), but it may as well mean Morrigan pretty much unpinning herself from her leash. After all, whether we kill Flemeth or not, Morigan never returns to her and in fact warns that there's something shifty going on with her in Witch Hunt.

 

Then there's also an issue of a body... in an amulet? I'm pretty sure she means a soul fragment. If there exists a 2nd body it may as well be her other possessed daughter, and the ritual might have meant that she "unlocked" it for herself to posses, or something in that fashion.

[Sah291]

Of course he turns on the player he is following the demand of the Qun like the Inquisitor told him to do.

Well technically that's just what he was there to do all along. So I guess, it is more that you succeed in turning him to your side, if you saved the Chargers.

Solas... you get close, but ultimately don't succeed in changing his mind.

But both were there for there own reasons from the start. Personally I think the Inquisitor is really naive to recruit Bull in the first place... of course I did anyway, because I didn't want to miss content or miss out on any companions...But it was hard to think of a justification from an RP standpoint. The best I figured was my MC wasn't particularly loyal either at the start, and only came to be over time.

[ModernAcademic]

Er, there's a problem here - Kieran doesn't exist in every world state. And in some he can just be a normal boy. Plus, the game doesn't really suggests anywhere that the "final showdown" will be between Kieran and Solas, or even between Morrigan and Solas. In fact Trespasser makes it pretty clear that that's on Inquisitor.

 

I mean... personally I think that there will be something that may involve Kieran (if he exists) or even just consequences of performing or not performing the Dark Ritual. They went through the effort of making the results of that decision be very distinct in Inquisition, so - at the moment of creating DAI - they appear to have some plans in that regard. I'm just not really sure what that will be.

 

1) [Warden doesn't do DR] In that case, it'll be up to Morrigan to do...whatever Flemeth prepared her to do as the Inheritor. Since Solas is involved in her whole mysterious speech of "change is coming to the world", then it's safe to assume that at some point, the elf's actions will interfere with her plans. However, like you said, we can't infer if she'll confront him directly.

(I wish she did, though.) 

 

2) Yep.Bioware is keeping us in suspense. My bet is that, in truth, the writers have no idea what to do with OGB so far. His arc started way back in Origins, but was brusquely interrupted by the Elven leitmotif (Mythal, eluvians, asf). So from DA4 onwards, that's something the writers will have to go back to and properly wrap up.

 

 

 

Why I think the OGB's fate wasn't planned that far ahead?

 

(I'm a writer (with two books under production, many written short stories and no published works yet), so I know how writers may seem brilliant to the public, presenting all these elaborate concepts, inserted in an equally complex lore and cleverly-built plot.

 

But when you look closely at the method they work with, you realise lots of the brilliant stuff in their stories were actually ideas they happened to have at the spur of the moment, while they were revising the draft, having a coffee break after lunch, reading a book in bed and in other such moments. It's not something that resulted from a deep reflection, "a profound contemplation of human nature and the invitable fate of the Universe", and that took weeks and weeks to be ready. No, sometimes they read a book on the Arthurian legends and came up with a few ideas. Like dragons, shapeshifting witches living in marshes, secret royal bloodlines and sex rites meant to give birth to the Chosen One.

 

This is why I don't take the DA lore that seriously. Because the fans that are looking at it from the outside end up seeing more in the lore's details than what was the writers's true intentions. This is why I'm almost sure they haven't really anticipated anything on the OGB's relevance to the DA series, much less his fate so far. That's what my writer's instincts tell me, anyway. I may be completely wrong.)

[Seraphim24]

TLDR thought about this some more sorry but Solas's justifications for what he does are so flimsy I have no qualms treating him as a chaotic evil supervillain. 

 

If the game had made it an option, would of at least imprisoned  him for his crazy plans, the PC is the character trying to stop him from destroying the world, IMO. 

 

Dragon Age has a knack for making you companions with people who are like totally terrible people lol, I mean, Morrigan wants to create a demon god, Blackwall is totally awful, Zevran kills people for money, Mabari > all to be honest, jeez.

 

Solas is basically the ultimate evil, even regular old tyrants and such often pale in comparision, he is like, the original primal, evil, there is really nothing lower than him in many ways. Pretty much his entirely personality all the gibberish about "personal freedom" and such is basically only true in the exceedingly deluded head of his.