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[nightscrawl]

The only thing I will be upset about concerning his importance is if I'm forced to "redeem" him in the next game.  I cannot conceive of any character I would make that would take that route because of how I perceive it.  At best... I would be willing to strip Solas of all his power and let him live the rest of his days a mortal elf - and even that is a dangerous stretch and grossly irresponsible for any character I would make.

Even if the actual choice leads to the same end, like many DA choices, I really don't think that Bioware will force the PC, whether that is the Inquisitor or an as-of-yet unknown DA4 new protagonist, to redeem him or to state that that is their desired goal. I feel it likely that we will have some roleplay choice in the matter. Whether that roleplay will actually amount to anything is anybody's guess.

 

Perhaps we will just end up sealing Solas away, a la Corypheus. It might also be that Solas has some sort of light bulb moment and ends up redeeming himself, regardless of player action.

 

The only choice in the entire DA series that has had significant impact on a game's ending is the choice of whether the DAO Warden lives or dies. Not even the Dark Ritual amounts to anything great, since we see in DAI that they worked around the child issue in that game. What has that gotten us? Nothing. The Warden, if they survived, has not made an appearance outside of second or third-hand accounts, and a single letter to the Inquisitor. Every other choice of note has been relegated to bare mention and alternate paths. Even the Big Choice in DA2 is hardly worth anything.*

 

I think DAI itself was a bit of a departure, particularly with Iron Bull and his choice. While it was great to see that kind of consequence in Trespasser, that then means that Bull, or his Chargers, can't play a significant role in any following game because he could very well be dead. If anything, he would be relegated to the same sort of appearance we saw from Nathaniel in DA2, which had an alternate quest if he was not available.

 

Bioware has shown that they don't like backing themselves into a corner with certain choices and took away many lessons from DAO in that regard. Now, we have a new head writer and some things may change along those lines, but regardless of how compelling certain choice variation might be, the reality exists that the DA franchise is based around the player's world state, so they necessarily create choice results with that in mind.

 

 

 

* This is not a huge deal for me, personally, and I am generally satisfied with the limited import customization that we have. However, I know many players feel differently and want more divergence, or simply feel that lack of true variation means they should chuck the player's world state and go with their own canon.

[Sah291]

1)  Degenerates have large fanbases.  It's not that big a deal.  Walter White... Dexter... Jim Jones.  A fan base means nothing. 

 
The appeal of very flawed, or even monsterous, or inhuman characters is that they are often used as a device to explore what it means to be human. Or as commentary on some of the more violent and dark aspects of human nature. It is the same with very alien characters, characters with AI, supernatural, or other kinds of inhuman characters. It's not always meant to be taken so literal.

3)  For myself - I knew he was a danger from the first time I had a conversation with him in Haven.  Having experienced the likes of Zathrian, Uldred, Jowan, Orsino and Anders... I have a very low opinion of DA mages.  I consider most of them to be unstable radicals who's power outstretches their morality.  

You forgot Alexius. I'll grant you that, DA is quite overabundant with crazy mages, to the point I think the writers probably expect an audience that dislikes them more than not, and to see them as the "other". I remember them saying they were surprised so many sided with the mages in DA2. Mage characters in the games do keep tricking or betraying the player.

[Medhia_Nox]

It was planned.
The OGB plotline was developed to teach to players that elven powers belong to the elves and that those humans like Morrigan who try to stole those powers in the end will gain nothing but to serve the gods.

 

I don't agree. 

 

I believe the OGB was "planned" in the same way that whatever Flemythal passes into the mirror is "planned". 

 

I think Flemythal knew Solas was coming, knew what Solas would try to do and knew she had to figure out a way to stop him. I think Morrigan is going to be the key to stopping Solas.  I think Morrigan will finally accept Mythal into her and become Morrythal.  Then proceed to provide the player with the means to defeating/redeeming Solas.  

 

The OGB is just one of the routes that could be pursued on this path.  Since not everyone does the Dark Ritual - Bioware isn't going to rely on it too heavily.  

[German Soldier]

Weekes has Solas say he hates tea. So Solas hates tea. There's nothing anyone can say that makes this false. If you do, you're just ignoring the story we're all talking about and making up your own fan fiction. 

 

 

Which clearly has nothing to do with interpretation of characters actions and behaviour so you are just oversimplifying the matter  in order to portray Solas detractors as clueless and naive.

 

 

Weekes can show us Solas cares about saving the peasants by showing us "Solas Approves" or "Solas Greatly Approves" or "Solas Slightly Approves" when we as a party do quests that save the peasants... get meat for them, find medicines, find rings, gather supplies. There's nothing you can say that makes this false. If you try to tell us Solas doesn't care, there's the game developer showing us through the game your opinion is wrong.

 

 

Solas doesn't care enough to not kill everyone and given his own dialogues that's absolutely and unequivocally true.

That he greatly approves and  still want to genocide the world just show where he decided to put his priorities and that he feel to have the right to kill everyone for his own ambitions make irrelevant every disdainful  "greatly approves"  he made while considering those persons as not even persons.

 

 

Now, you can say that it doesn't matter that he cares because he's going to enact a plan about the Veil... that's a legit way to look at the situation.

But it's also legit to say that the developers showing he cares about the peasants is a clue that we don't know everything about his plan for the Veil and that may change how we look at things later on in the story. 

 

 

Which recall my early point which is legit and make your and @Midnight pomposity about us being wrong on Solas feel flat.

Solas already killed a bunch of people the moment he decided to try to put forward his plans,was the primary cause along with Corypheus for the breach and annihilated Elvhenan  thus he is undeserving of the benefit of the doubt in my books.

 

 

 

 

Then you take the clue that he cares about the peasants and you match it up with a clue about him saving the world from the Evanuris. Then you take those two clues and match it up with Solas fighting to free slaves. Then you take another clue about the Evanuris fighting Titans and that having dangerous consequences for the world. Then you have another clue where Solas doesn't try to paint himself as a hero at the end of Trespasser, he's wracked with guilt about the elves and other things. 

 

Of course Bioware leaves all these clues, it makes it more interesting in looking forward to DA4. 

Saved the world against the Evanuris according to his own word since i didn't spoke with these Evanuris to hear their story but of course  history is wrote by the winners in this case Solas.

Clues upon clues upon clues that are just a distorted pieces of history,you don't know anything about the titans the same titans  whom according to those clues were also killed by Mythal his beloved Evanuris which was the "voice  of  reason".

Looking forward for DA4 Solas would be considered as he is an enemy of the world.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Not buying it. OGB Kieran himself calls Morrigan the Inheritor who awaits the new age and Flemeth in DAO calls her one she values above everything.

Inheritors of the gods yes,in the sense that she is the next in line to serve as those priests of Mythal.

Bioware is teaching that those who wish to mock the gods by stealing their powers end up by serving them what delicious irony.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 

 

The OGB is just one of the routes that could be pursued on this path.  Since not everyone does the Dark Ritual - Bioware isn't going to rely on it too heavily.  

I'm trying to make a metaphor here it is clear that they didn't even knew why they decided to substitute the Grey warden sword with the Dark ritual other than "it's cool in our mind" reasons.

If the path is chosen Morrigan fail because she end up by serving the gods not gaining their powers

(why she even thought to be able to outsmart a millennial being is beyond me) ,if she fail becasue the warden said no in  DAO she failed the same. Pick your choice the outcome for her would be almost the same.

[Secret Rare]

 
The appeal of very flawed, or even monsterous, or inhuman characters is that they are often used as a device to explore what it means to be human. Or as commentary on some of the more violent and dark aspects of human nature. It is the same with very alien characters
 

Being humans(elves) doesn't necessarily mean being a monster thus i agree only with the second statement.

 

 

@Medhia oh please are you implying that i have to suffer again the shrew?

[Sah291]

Being humans(elves) doesn't necessarily mean being a monster thus i agree only with the second statement.

I didn't mean they were all necessarily monsters. I just meant that making a character not human is a common author's way to contrast human virtues, traits, etc.

You see this trope in sci-fi/fantasy a lot. Often you have an entire race or species that represents some archtype or aspect of humanity the author wants to explore. Elves have often fallen into this trope too.

Bioware perhaps breaks from this tradition more than most, by trying to make it's different in-game cultures diverse and not so black and white. But they still do it with individual characters, who will often still represent some archtype.

By making the character not human, you can get the audience to suspend disbelief and look at it objectively. In a story that deals only with humans and realistic real world scenarios, audiences are more biased towards their own expectations. That's why scifi is a popular genre for political commentary and other controversial subjects.

[midnight tea]

 

Inheritors of the gods yes,in the sense that she is the next in line to serve as those priests of Mythal.

Bioware is teaching that those who wish to mock the gods by stealing their powers end up by serving them what delicious irony.

 

You don't know that. Inheritor can mean many things, and it certainly doesn't sound like "spare body".

 

Errrr... no. Most of the time the "gods" in BioWare story turn out to be anything but, nor force any sort of story about inevitable servitude to gods/god-wannabes or 'sin' of mockery, in fact it's quite the opposite. That the Morrigan ended up "serving" her mother after she manages to convince Inky to give her the the Well is only ironic that she went full circle to meeting her mom again. Let's not forget however that Inky also can end up drinking the Well, and they don't take it to mock, nor were really in position to mock... other than their own status as demigods.

[The Elder King]

Eh, not really. With how they handled Trespasser and their intentions for it, it actually killed any enthusiasm for both DAI and DA4 for me. 

 

I'm sorry you feel that way. This is about the Inquisitor's fate, right? I recall you'd have liked to have him/her as the PC of DA4.

I find the revelations at the end DAI and Trespasser really interesting, and makes me a lot curious on the next games. I wonder if in one/The last one we'll find out if the Maker is real in some way, and how different he is to what the Andrastians believe (since the Fade isn't his creation), or if he's a part based on Fen'harel. 

And I want to know what kind of connection there is between the Old Gods and the elven 'gods'.

Or...people could have genuine reasons for disliking him...

Yep. I really like him as a character, and I'm itntrigued in having him as an antagonist, and my Inquisitor was his friend, but I can see why others can dislike or loathe him.

 

 

It was planned.
The OGB plotline was developed to teach to players that elven powers belong to the elves and that those humans like Morrigan who try to stole those powers in the end will gain nothing but to serve the gods.

 

We don't know yet what are exactly the Old Gods, and if and in which measure their powers are connected to the elven 'gods' (a connection there's surely in my opinion.).

The said, while DAI definitely uncover that the elven legends are in some way true, on the other hand it and TME before kind of uncover in the same way the harsh truth on the elven past, which doesn't seem so far that different from the Tevinter Imperium, if not only for the Evanuris being apparently much stronger then the magisters. And on the same level it revealted they aren't really gods.

[Almostfaceman]

 

Which clearly has nothing to do with interpretation of characters actions and behaviour so you are just oversimplifying the matter  in order to portray Solas detractors as clueless and naive.

 

Solas doesn't care enough to not kill everyone and given his own dialogues that's absolutely and unequivocally true.

That he greatly approves and  still want to genocide the world just show where he decided to put his priorities and that he feel to have the right to kill everyone for his own ambitions make irrelevant every disdainful  "greatly approves"  he made while considering those persons as not even persons.

 

Which recall my early point which is legit and make your and @Midnight pomposity about us being wrong on Solas feel flat.

Solas already killed a bunch of people the moment he decided to try to put forward his plans,was the primary cause along with Corypheus for the breach and annihilated Elvhenan  thus he is undeserving of the benefit of the doubt in my books.

 

 

Saved the world against the Evanuris according to his own word since i didn't spoke with these Evanuris to hear their story but of course  history is wrote by the winners in this case Solas.

Clues upon clues upon clues that are just a distorted pieces of history,you don't know anything about the titans the same titans  whom according to those clues were also killed by Mythal his beloved Evanuris which was the "voice  of  reason".

Looking forward for DA4 Solas would be considered as he is an enemy of the world.

 

 

That you wrote all of this when I wrote "Now, you can say that it doesn't matter that he cares because he's going to enact a plan about the Veil... that's a legit way to look at the situation." hints strongly that you started responding before you read the entire post. 

 

Because I say your viewpoint is legit and you call me pompous. Which is weird. 

[AresKeith]

I again suspect that people who hate Solas are really just jelly

 

I prefer jam myself

[midnight tea]

That you wrote all of this when I wrote "Now, you can say that it doesn't matter that he cares because he's going to enact a plan about the Veil... that's a legit way to look at the situation." hints strongly that you started responding before you read the entire post. 

 

Because I say your viewpoint is legit and you call me pompous. Which is weird. 

 

Sadly, misreading and misunderstanding things or picking a fight for hardly any reason, while calling people this or that, like pompous or arrogant while sitting on his high horse is a fairly consistent behavior for this particular user...

[midnight tea]

I'm sorry you feel that way. This is about the Inquisitor's fate, right? I recall you'd have liked to have him/her as the PC of DA4.

 

No, from what I recall this user came seething to Solas thread and began a tirade how paying for this DLC was a waste of money, since it didn't give them an option of punishing/killing Solas...

 

 

I find the revelations at the end DAI and Trespasser really interesting, and makes me a lot curious on the next games. I wonder if in one/The last one we'll find out if the Maker is real in some way, and how different he is to what the Andrastians believe (since the Fade isn't his creation), or if he's a part based on Fen'harel. 

And I want to know what kind of connection there is between the Old Gods and the elven 'gods'.

Yep. I really like him as a character, and I'm itntrigued in having him as an antagonist, and my Inquisitor was his friend, but I can see why others can dislike or loathe him.

 

Patrick Weekes said in one of last interviews (with Biofan) that he doesn't like stories that have sort of a definite answer in that regard. So... dunno?

 

Of course, that doesn't mean that the team will eventually decide if there's going to be "the reveal" - I sort of think we'll end up finding out that the Chant has a grain of truth in it, but it's all sort of different from what people think it is. After all, we already know that the Veil has a different maker, and in many regards can be considered the creator of modern Thedas - who also happens to be one that distances himself from the world and may have to be convinced not to turn away from his creation...

[The Elder King]

No, from what I recall this user came seething to Solas thread and began a tirade how paying for this DLC was a waste of money, since it didn't give them an option of punishing/killing Solas...

 

 

Patrick Weekes said in one of last interviews (with Biofan) that he doesn't like stories that have sort of a definite answer in that regard. So... dunno?

 

Of course, that doesn't mean that the team will eventually decide if there's going to be "the reveal" - I sort of think we'll end up finding out that the Chant has a grain of truth in it, but it's all sort of different from what people think it is. After all, we already know that the Veil has a different maker, and in many regards can be considered the creator of modern Thedas - who also happens to be one that distances himself from the world and may have to be convinced not to turn away from his creation...

I wasn't around much in that period so I can't say. But I recall Hanako wanted to have the Inquisitor as the PC in DA4. I can see why someone wanted to punish Solas in Trespasser, but other then the particular situation of the Inquisitor (and Solas' power), he's supposed to have a big role in the following games. They wouldn't let his story end in a dlc.

Thanks for the info.

Well yes, as it went for the Elven Gods the Maker might be very different then what the Chant states. And I agree that Solas/Fen'harel's story is vaguely similar to the Maker, and theories of the Maker/Fen'harel being the same being were discussed already before DAI. 

There's the matter of the Old Gods though, and who sent them in the Deep Roads. Fen'harel in the elven legend sent the Forgotten Ones there, and there's a connection between the Evanuris and the Old Gods....but at the same time we did found out about one Forgotten One in a DAI's codex, and his name was different from the Old Gods. We'll see what they'll reveal in the following games I guess . The situation is very interesting to me though.

[Seraphim24]

Yep, we're all jealous of the unattractive loner superviolent psychopath with no friends or close relations and likely never to have them. 

 

Jealous, so jealous. 

[The Elder King]

Yep, we're all jealous of the unattractive loner superviolent psychopath with no friends or close relations and likely never to have them. 

 

Jealous, so jealous. 

He had a friend, as he probably had in the past. And one way or another he has a lot of followers. He can find some friends in them. He had friends or good relationship with some Inquisition members too, other then being possible friend or involved in a romantic relationship with the Inquisitor.

I disagree that you or the people who dislike Solas are jealous of him or his fanbase though. But I'm pretty much neutral on this topic.

[Seraphim24]

He had a friend, as he probably had in the past. And one way or another he has a lot of followers. He can find some friends in them. He had friends or good relationship with some Inquisition members too, other then being possible friend or involved in a romantic relationship with the Inquisitor.

I disagree that you or the people who dislike Solas are jealous of him or his fanbase though. But I'm pretty much neutral on this topic.

 

You are right, I was being slightly flippant. 

 

But I think the idea that I'd be jealous of someone who is clearly laboring under some great strain of.. something.. and that causes his life to be pretty messy is like er. 

 

Neither should I add would I be the type to try and make that situation worse, in fact I would ideally play trying to make Solas feel as good about himself as possible, (pretty much how I play every game, actually) but it's hard to say his character is one of shining joy, the likes of which might make people envious. 

 

As to him being unattractive well I guess I find the DA:I Elf ears to be honestly super bizzare-O, I think the DA:O elf design was much better. 

[The Elder King]

You are right, I was being slightly flippant. 

 

But I think the idea that I'd be jealous of someone who is clearly laboring under some great strain of.. something.. and that causes his life to be pretty messy is like er. 

 

Neither should I add would I be the type to try and make that situation worse, in fact I would ideally play trying to make Solas feel as good about himself as possible, (pretty much how I play every game, actually) but it's hard to say his character is one of shining joy, the likes of which might make people envious. 

 

As to him being unattractive well I guess I find the DA:I Elf ears to be honestly super bizzare-O, I think the DA:O elf design was much better. 

That's true. He has a lot of guilt about what he did, and what he's going to do.

[midnight tea]

I wasn't around much in that period so I can't say. But I recall Hanako wanted to have the Inquisitor as the PC in DA4. I can see why someone wanted to punish Solas in Trespasser, but other then the particular situation of the Inquisitor (and Solas' power), he's supposed to have a big role in the following games. They wouldn't let his story end in a dlc.

 

Agreed - it would be bizarre to have the post-epilogue reveal only to deal with him in DLC, no matter how grand that DLC (in which we could theoretically deal with him) could be. And *especially* after many of Trespasser reveals. It's not like I wasn't worrying that we *could* perhaps deal with him there, but I considered the scenario unlikely even prior to release.

 

 

Well yes, as it went for the Elven Gods the Maker might be very different then what the Chant states. And I agree that Solas/Fen'harel's story is vaguely similar to the Maker, and theories of the Maker/Fen'harel being the same being were discussed already before DAI. 

There's the matter of the Old Gods though, and who sent them in the Deep Roads. Fen'harel in the elven legend sent the Forgotten Ones there, and there's a connection between the Evanuris and the Old Gods....but at the same time we did found out about one Forgotten One in a DAI's codex, and his name was different from the Old Gods. We'll see what they'll reveal in the following games I guess . The situation is very interesting to me though.

 

Yeah, I think it's possible that we'll find out might be that the Maker might sort of be an amalgam of things.

 

Dunno about Old Gods at this point - many people connect them to the Evanuris, but at the same time it would mean that there are only 2 (potentially 3) left. That doesn't mean that they're not something 'elfy' considering OGB Kieran reveals during our meeting with Flemeth. Or more like... maybe the 'elfy' stuff is also something different? We just don't know now how many secrets Thedas hides. Cole in Trespasser cryptically mentions that Solas "broke the dreams to stop old dreams from waking". What are those old dreams though? Something related to the Blight or else? And what are those weird statues we find sometimes - like The Thing In The Dark in Western Approach?

[The Elder King]

 

Yeah, I think it's possible that we'll find out might be that the Maker might sort of be an amalgam of things.

 

Dunno about Old Gods at this point - many people connect them to the Evanuris, but at the same time it would mean that there are only 2 (potentially 3) left. That doesn't mean that they're not something 'elfy' considering OGB Kieran reveals during our meeting with Flemeth. Or more like... maybe the 'elfy' stuff is also something different? We just don't know now how many secrets Thedas hides. Cole in Trespasser cryptically mentions that Solas "broke the dreams to stop old dreams from waking". What are those old dreams though? Something related to the Blight or else? And what are those weird statues we find sometimes - like The Thing In The Dark in Western Approach?

There is definitely a connection with the Evanuris. How much, we don't know yet. I'm fine with this though, I wouldn't want to know everything about them in DAI and its dlcs. I'm fine with the reveals about the elven Gods.

[Lezio]

That sentence kinda makes no sense - so he has justification for each of his actions and yet he keeps doing them? That's a double negative.
 
I mean aside form it being factually inaccurate. The justification and excuses part at least - the guy is so plagued with guilt the only thing he says is left to him at one point are his mistakes. In Trespasser he keeps taking blame on himself for... well, pretty much everything it seems at time - he makes countless mistakes, he got his hands bloody, and so on. He even says 'I'm not like Corypheus" only in a sense that he takes no joy in what he does or tries to minimize casualties or terror inflicted on them. He KNOWS how his revelations make him look like to Inky, and only distinguishes himself from Cory in a minimal sense, because he knows what he's planning to do is... well... inexcusable. He underlines many times that he will pay for this dearly.
 
And as much as we don't yet know about his schemes and how they truly look, you can't really categorize all his reasons for it as "excuses" - he tries to save his people and bring about balance to the world which his veil has disrupted. And how this would look we're yet to see, even if I think that we'd probably going to have to search for a much better solution.

Which kind of clicks with the last part of my post and also with my reason for liking Ozymandias as a "character(/person)" more than i do Solas.
 
Solas says he does what he does for a reason, Solas says he feels guilty, Solas says he will pay. Problem is, Solas says lots of things and yet his actions, at least for me, go against most of the things he says.
Solas destroyed his world after the Evanuris killed his friend. I remember you saying Solas' rebellion was efficient enough for the Evanuris to consider giving him a place amongst their ranks, and yet he basically gave up on his idea and just destroyed everything out of desire for revenge. His reason for that, i feel, was not a good one. His reason was not his people, it was his friend's death (at least for me)
Solas' greatest fear is dying alone. I don't think it's a stretch to say that, seeing his reactions to modern day people, that is what he feels would happen if he doesn't rebuild his people. So, again, it isn't too much of a stretch for me to say that i feel like his reasons to destroy the world, once again, are not pure in the slightest, from there the thought that his is a self-imposed quest where the desire of the few (his, mostly, and his people') outweight the ones of the many (Theodosians')
 
Solas' reasons, to me, are mostly selfish in nature (hell as someone else stated he would risk waking up the Evanuris even when his plans, past and present, have mostly failed or turned out not as he expected), and to make himself feel better about them, to make himself feel different from the Evanuris (whom were all about "few outweight the many"), he shows off guilt, makes excuses and justifications, that, in the end, matter little in the face of the pain he caused and will (more than likely) cause
 

Made sense only because you now know the full extent of them. With Solas we don't yet know.

 
I mostly answered this before, enough to say that Ozy's character was portrayed in a way that never really made me think his reasons could have been anything less than, at the very least, logical in nature
 

So basically you're assuming that Solas can't be good, because his nature is that of being evil? That's an interesting point in a sense that I see the exact opposite: Solas on a path of destruction because he himself believes that he can't be good.
He's like Dorian in Cole's banter: "You let it keep hurting, because you think hurting is who you are." He's so beaten down that he lost faith in the world and more importantly he's lost faith in himself. At this point his plan is probably in large part about freeing the world from what he thinks is his worst mistake and in the end probably free it from himself.

 
Not really Mike's nature was to be a, well, criminal and when he faked and forced himself to behave "nice" he was pretty miserable, when he stopped lying to himself about his "dark" nature, accepted it and started to balance it out, instead of suppressing, he became a lot happier.
I said Solas, in a way, reminds me of him because he lies to himself in the same way but doesn't actually try to change who he is or accept what he has become, instead he's just behaving as he did when he screwed up everything
He's not evil in nature, but his role has gone from Dread Wolf, symbol of hope, to, well, Evanuris, so he tries to find any kind of reason to make himself feel better about it (his max disapproval dialogue is pretty telling about this)

 

 

This is MY perception of the character, and i feel like pointing out that if someone dislikes Solas it doesn't necessarily mean they don't appreciate his characterization or they way the writers wrote him, it may simply mean they dislike the "character" (i.e. the "person"). Which, i think, is, more often than not, the difference between those who dislike and those who like him

Solas, for me, simply falls into the category of characters that i "love to hate", unlike, say, Cory, Sebastian, Orsino, Casper, Kai Leng whom are either dull or dumb or both, or Loghain, TIM, the Arishok, Anders/Justice, or Bhelen whom range from messed up to plain horrible but still find myself kinda liking their characters

[Seraphim24]

Solas' greatest fear is dying alone. 

 

That's just about everyone's fear though. The problem Solas has is believing he is entitled to do anything to resolve that problem, and that his "solution" of placing his needs above others will only make the wedge between him and others greater. '

 

I imagine he also theoretically justifies it on the basis of his "power," that no one can stop him from getting what he wants. But no one has to do that, he's doing it all by himself. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No, from what I recall this user came seething to Solas thread and began a tirade how paying for this DLC was a waste of money, since it didn't give them an option of punishing/killing Solas...

That wasn't me. I've never ranted about not having the option to punish/kill Solas in Trespasser. I knew that wouldn't be the case since he is going to be in the next game. 

[Sah291]

That's just about everyone's fear though. The problem Solas has is believing he is entitled to do anything to resolve that problem, and that his "solution" of placing his needs above others will only make the wedge between him and others greater. '
 
I imagine he also theoretically justifies it on the basis of his "power," that no one can stop him from getting what he wants. But no one has to do that, he's doing it all by himself.

I totally don't see it that way at all. He is doing it for largely unselfish reasons, out of a sense of duty to his people. He's going to save them, no matter the cost, even at the cost of his friends and his own life if necessary.

Abandoning his cause and staying with the befriended Inquisitor was his fleeting selfish desire, by the end of the base game. But he rejects it.

I think that makes the situation more interesting, because the question becomes, is it ever OK to put selfish desires first, or to put love before duty? Even when that duty is leading you down a destructive path. Wasn't this a similar theme explored in Dorian's personal quest, and in Cullen's arc, and in other parts of the game? I thought it was.