No point in being helpful if your intentions are to level up the place because you just woke up to a world you think sucks badly.
He's had like what, a year since he finished his nap? And no doubt, half of it spent sleeping and the other half searching for a place to sleep.
He has to answer for what he did. Him being full of drama isn't an excuse for his actions.
Also... I wonder if there's a group of people who have spent the last few thousands years dealing with the Blight and who sealed Corypheus away and knew he was immortal?
I wonder if there was anyone Solas could have talked before going ahead with his plan that might have provided him with some knowledge?
If only he was a question asker and not just a talker who admires questions directed at him.
These are my claims.
Your sophistry is pointless - but expected.
Your sophistry is pointless - but expected.
Was that directed at me?
You'd think we could perhaps try and see what is hiding behind the walls of Weisshaupt?
I sort of wonder if we'd going to visit Anderfels... or any other country other that Tevinter for that matter (if we're indeed going to spend most time there). The eluvian network is open and there's no telling where it could take us, but we got a taste of 'continent-hopping' in Trespasser itself.
Plus, the banter between Cole and Dorian in Vir DIrthara suggests that Dorian has strong intentions of trying to
steal another elvhen technologytry and construct his own equivalent of eluvians. In fact, I find it interesting that there are epilogue slides (like romanced Dorian or romanced Cassandra) that imply that "Inquisitor appears out of nowhere" in one place or another... Could that mean that Dorian has succeeded? And that Inquisition will have its own mirrors to cross enormous distances.
I find that possibility intriguing, because it means opening new places we could reach without having to worry about realistic time it would take a person to travel from one place to another by conventional means available to people at that time. It could also mean that we may get different areas... I mean, I think I've read a forum post from David Gaider somewhere that mentioned that DA team would likely not resign from open-world exploration, but maybe we'd get more smaller maps or more dungeons, instead of "just" full zones?
It's a possibility, though I'm not sure if they'll decide to spread the areas in different countries again or focus in one.
It's an interesting theory, but I don't think the slides are meant to suggest Dorian already achieved his goal. I think it'd take more time.
As for the maps, I'm not sure which is the best approach. If they want to go for a open world system divided in separate areas making them smaller with more content in each of them is indeed better then larger but emply areas. Though TW3 show you can make a full open world game without going on Bethesda's route. It doesn't have to be as big as TW3, but it is possible.
Eh, the Grey Wardens did not intend for Corypheus to be common or even uncommon knowledge, as far as I know, so they'd likely be very suspecious towards someone trying to gather knowledge about him or his location even if it was another Grey Warden who was not tied to the group involved with or guarding him.
I think it'd be unlikely that Solas would be able to gather information about Corypheus from the Grey Wardens even through agents on the inside. He likely only learned of Corypheus after Corypheus had escaped and taken over the Venatori with what he learned likely being because Corypheus gathered followers and through them, knowledge of his existence spread allowing Solas' agents to gain knowledge.
I say I should've tried in his shoes. Not that they'd have helped him. But fair enough.
Plus, the banter between Cole and Dorian in Vir DIrthara suggests that Dorian has strong intentions of trying to
steal another elvhen technologytry and construct his own equivalent of eluvians. In fact, I find it interesting that there are epilogue slides (like romanced Dorian or romanced Cassandra) that imply that "Inquisitor appears out of nowhere" in one place or another... Could that mean that Dorian has succeeded? And that Inquisition will have its own mirrors to cross enormous distances.
I find that possibility intriguing, because it means opening new places we could reach without having to worry about realistic time it would take a person to travel from one place to another by conventional means available to people at that time. It could also mean that we may get different areas... I mean, I think I've read a forum post from David Gaider somewhere that mentioned that DA team would likely not resign from open-world exploration, but maybe we'd get more smaller maps or more dungeons, instead of "just" full zones?
Some claimed to have seen the Inquisitor on the streets of Minrathous on rare occasions, sneaking into the heart of Tevinter to aid his amatus.
Well, if I was Solas I'd have at least try to ask them about Corypheus, before giving a ancient blight creature the Orb. Without considering the Wardens' idiocy in DAI, from his point of view they are the most knowledgeable about the Blght and the darskpawn. A try wouldn't have hurt.
To be honest we don't even know IF he asked or not. But he's Solas; we can reasonably say that he's not a total idiot and - quoting his author verbatim - "he is always the person who's going to look for more thoughtful solution". So I wouldn't exclude the possibility that he searched wherever he could, though even that doesn't mean that he's made best decision, especially that we don't know just how desperate he was.
Still, we do know that most Wardens had no idea Corypheus existed - Stroud/Loghain/Alistair even said that they only knew vaguely of him because of their relative seniority, and even they couldn't really give any pointers to Inquisitor about what's Cory's shtick, be it before or after Adamant, exiled or no. They must have indeed not known much, other than Corypheus is a blighted creature who seems to be immortal and has an ability to create fake Calling (... actually, wasn't that on Nightmare? Like, entirely?).
These are my claims.
Your sophistry is pointless - but expected.
... Says our local expert on sophistry. The implication in that post is clear so thank you for quoting it, so we could all see what it implies.
No point in being helpful if your intentions are to level up the place because you just woke up to a world you think sucks badly.
... Only we know that this ain't as simple as this, even in a state of knowledge we have for now.
To be honest we don't even know IF he asked or not. But he's Solas; we can reasonably say that he's not a total idiot and - quoting his author verbatim - "he is always the person who's going to look for more thoughtful solution". So I wouldn't exclude the possibility that he searched wherever he could, though even that doesn't mean that he's made best decision, especially that we don't know just how desperate he was.
Still, we do know that most Wardens had no idea Corypheus existed - Stroud/Loghain/Alistair even said that they only knew vaguely of him because of their relative seniority, and even they couldn't really give any pointers to Inquisitor about what's Cory's shtick, be it before or after Adamant, exiled or no. They must have indeed not known much, other than Corypheus is a blighted creature who seems to be immortal and has an ability to create fake Calling (... actually, wasn't that on Nightmare? Like, entirely?).
That's true.
On the second half, as I said, I was talking about what I'd do in his shoes, without the knowledge of what the Wardens know.
As a Dorian-mancer, I didn't take that implication from the slide at all.
Well true, after checking what it says it only mentions that he's spotted on streets of Tevinter on rare occasions Still, Cassandra's slides mentions "it was not unusual to see the Inquisitor appear unexpected at Cassandra's side - or her at his".
^ I think you're reading too much into it, to be honest. They weren't going to have each sort of romance slide use the exact same words, especially if you have the circumstance where the Inquisitor and their LI are actually apart for various reasons.
You think I wouldn't adore the idea of my guy being able to pop in and see Dorian whenever he wants? =/
Also... I wonder if there's a group of people who have spent the last few thousands years dealing with the Blight and who sealed Corypheus away and knew he was immortal?
I wonder if there was anyone Solas could have talked before going ahead with his plan that might have provided him with some knowledge?
If only he was a question asker and not just a talker who admires questions directed at him.
I'm sorry, I'm generally trying to stay out of this mess because I enjoy not bashing my head against concrete walls, but seriously? Did you pay attention to, like, ANY of Solas' banter with the other companions? He asks questions all the damn time. He asks questions of Varric, of Blackwall, of Bull, of Sera, of Cassandra. Varric even straight up says "What's up with all the questions you keep asking me?"
He likes hearing the thoughts and opinions of other people. Oh, sure, he might dismiss them as idiot mortals who don't know their on about, but he absolutely asks questions. I imagine most of his banter is composed of precisely that.
Normally I'm cool with people not liking Solas, because he can be an arrogant know-it-all close-minded ass and the whole plotting-to-end-the-world thing is a bit of a turn off. But, like... this is perhaps the most damning evidence I've seen that you prefer this twisted caricature of Solas over the guy we actually saw in-game. If you're going to hate him, could you at least hate him for canonical reasons? You certainly have a wide variety to choose from.
Well it does raise a good point. If Solas was watching the world from the fade, how does he not know Cory is immortal, or that Mythal was still alive? Surely he is not omnipresent and all knowing. But he specifically knew about the Battle of Ostagar...but not Flemeth's intervention in that battle. And he gave his orb to Cory at some point, so he must have been watching him as well, but didn't know that the Wardens were keeping him in a magical prision, and that Hawke had freed him and failed to kill him.
Did he think Cory's immortality was weak/ineffective and was no match for his orb?
There's a question how much he can see through Fade when it comes to Blighted creatures... not sure about the Wardens (as Solas describes us a perspective of what I assume to be our DAO protag and Alistair), but we do know that Cole is unable to peek into Cory's head and get a good picture. Apparently he's "too loud".
.. Which, you know, I think they kinda had to introduce as a device to prevent from Inky just asking Cole to describe him exactly what Corypheus is planning or something 
Still, I don't think they'd do it without a reason. Therefore the Blight might have a distorting effect on the Fade, perhaps?
There's also another possibility - a lot of Wardens AND Tevenes - use blood magic, and we do know from Solas that it makes it more difficult to cross to the Fade through dreams, or attracts demons rather than spirits. Maybe it's also has an effect on memory stored in the Fade?
Was Mythal hiding herself from him? Did he think she was just Flemeth, a powerful witch, or that there was nothing left of Mythal inside her?
We do know he's aware of Flemeth enough to travel to her hut, but we don't know how much he's aware she's also (at least partially) Mythal. But perhaps he was attracted there because he felt something familiar? Maybe this is also why he went to Ostagar - because there was a connection between the hut and the battlefield he could not quite pin?
Still, it's entirely possible that he knew there was something about Flemeth, but he never expected that the wisp that escaped... wherever she escaped from, might be simply too small to be significant. Flemythal on the other hand seems to do a lot to keep her status hidden though, so it's possible she was masking herself.
I mean... realistically, we can't assume that there aren't other beings from ancient past who she may want to hide from or lull into false sense of security perhaps. Like the mysterious ancient-elf-looking-red-vallaslined elves that attack people at the edges of Tirashan? Or what about Geldauran and his ilk? Or Forbidden Ones? And when we ask in the Fade if she knows what Inky is fighting with, she says that she knows more of it than we could imagine.
... In fact why are her - and Morigan's eyes - are described in game-files as blight eyes? :/
Did he think Cory's immortality was weak/ineffective and was no match for his orb?
Possible? Perhaps he expected that raw power of the Fade has adverse effects on the Blight itself? I mean, we do see during final fight that even after a long time under Corypheus' control the magic of the Orb stayed uncorrupted, turning pure green the moment Inquisitor ripped it from Cory's grasp. Then we see Inky open the rift which easily rips and destroys Corypheus' body.
... In fact why are her - and Morigan's eyes - are described in game-files as blight eyes? :/
Still, I don't think they'd do it without a reason. Therefore the Blight might have a distorting effect on the Fade, perhaps?
There's also another possibility - a lot of Wardens AND Tevenes - use blood magic, and we do know from Solas that it makes it more difficult to cross to the Fade through dreams, or attracts demons rather than spirits. Maybe it's also has an effect on memory stored in the Fade?
... In fact why are her - and Morigan's eyes - are described in game-files as blight eyes? :/
^ I think you're reading too much into it, to be honest. They weren't going to have each sort of romance slide use the exact same words, especially if you have the circumstance where the Inquisitor and their LI are actually apart for various reasons.
You think I wouldn't adore the idea of my guy being able to pop in and see Dorian whenever he wants? =/
Haha, but that's exactly what he says would happen if he worked on eluvians 
"Come now, we could visit each other on a whim! think how much fun life would be if I were always a step away?"
Uh... can you clarify this, please? Neither her nor Flemeth's character descriptions say this, so I'm not sure which file you might be referring to.
The quickest thing I could find is this image from modding nexus for Inquisition. The last one. Just want to point out that it's not the custom name for the mod - AFAIK you can only replace/override the files in DAI, not add new ones with new descriptions.
Really? I haven't seen that. Hmm.
Up until now I was thinking it might have something to do with being dragon blooded.
Same, but apparently there's something we don't know. Like, it technically can still be linked to dragons perhaps, but on some other ways than what we think they could.
^ Ty, but it is confusing hearing them all like that, especially since the Inquisitor doesn't speak. It actually sounds like he's responding to Vivienne with that line and nothing at all to do with the Inquisitor or the romance. If that's the case, it makes sense that I didn't hear it since I don't bring her along.
Vivienne: Or make a fruitless chase for Tevinter's lost glory?
Dorian: Come now, we could visit each other on a whim! Think how much fun life would be if I were always a step away?
Vivienne: My dear Lord Pavus, the mind practically reels.
But I do recall the Cassandra version, since I do bring her.
Thanks, though.
The quickest thing I could find is this image from modding nexus for Inquisition. The last one. Just want to point out that it's not the custom name for the mod - AFAIK you can only replace/override the files in DAI, not add new ones with new descriptions.
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Eh, I'm reluctant to take something like the name of a game asset and say it has any meaning. After all, as I pointed out earlier, I believe that Mythal's human appearance was a mistake. There is also a banter or somesuch in the files between Blackwall and Solas regarding elven beards, and the presence of that is also a mistake.
I suppose that I just don't like to read too much into various little bits in a general sense. But that's just me.
^ Ty, but it is confusing hearing them all like that, especially since the Inquisitor doesn't speak. It actually sounds like he's responding to Vivienne with that line and nothing at all to do with the Inquisitor or the romance. If that's the case, it makes sense that I didn't hear it since I don't bring her along.
Vivienne: Or make a fruitless chase for Tevinter's lost glory?
Dorian: Come now, we could visit each other on a whim! Think how much fun life would be if I were always a step away?
Vivienne: My dear Lord Pavus, the mind practically reels.
But I do recall the Cassandra version, since I do bring her.
Thanks, though.
Oh, I didn't mean it in the context of romance - only that Dorian mentions to someone that it would be fun 
Eh, I'm reluctant to take something like the name of a game asset and say it has any meaning. After all, as I pointed out earlier, I believe that Mythal's human appearance was a mistake. There is also a banter or somesuch in the files between Blackwall and Solas regarding elven beards, and the presence of that is also a mistake.
I suppose that I just don't like to read too much into various little bits in a general sense. But that's just me.
True, though it's interesting that someone thought to name distinct golden eyes as blighted at any time during game development... Especially that they didn't change the eye color for Morrigan or Flemeth from previous games.
It's a minor thing of course, and I won't be making any extensive hypotheses about it. Merely found the detail curious.
I'm sorry, I'm generally trying to stay out of this mess because I enjoy not bashing my head against concrete walls, but seriously? Did you pay attention to, like, ANY of Solas' banter with the other companions? He asks questions all the damn time. He asks questions of Varric, of Blackwall, of Bull, of Sera, of Cassandra. Varric even straight up says "What's up with all the questions you keep asking me?"
He likes hearing the thoughts and opinions of other people. Oh, sure, he might dismiss them as idiot mortals who don't know their on about, but he absolutely asks questions. I imagine most of his banter is composed of precisely that.
Normally I'm cool with people not liking Solas, because he can be an arrogant know-it-all close-minded ass and the whole plotting-to-end-the-world thing is a bit of a turn off. But, like... this is perhaps the most damning evidence I've seen that you prefer this twisted caricature of Solas over the guy we actually saw in-game. If you're going to hate him, could you at least hate him for canonical reasons? You certainly have a wide variety to choose from.
Yes, companion dialogue are the hard hitting questions a man who wants to destroy the world should be asking.
Solas is an elf who has lived most of his life as a solitary apostate. He is an expert on the Fade, the world of spirits and dreams. He is polite, reserved, calm, and difficult to antagonize. Years of study and seclusion have made him incredibly intelligent, but also skeptical of the value of most poltiical goals and ideals. As such, he tends to pragmatism rather than idealism. He responds well to people who are intelligent and clever, and thinks less of people who are thuggish and crude.
Note that some of his lines are marked "ancient times", which is when Solas is remembering something profound he experienced in the Fade. These lines are written with a specific cadence. They should NOT be sung or forced into a sing-song voice pattern, but knowing that there is a bit of rhythm there might help the actor.
True, though it's interesting that someone thought to name distinct golden eyes as blighted at any time during game development... Especially that they didn't change the eye color for Morrigan or Flemeth from previous games.
It's a minor thing of course, and I won't be making any extensive hypotheses about it. Merely found the detail curious.
Also... I wonder if there's a group of people who have spent the last few thousands years dealing with the Blight and who sealed Corypheus away and knew he was immortal?
I wonder if there was anyone Solas could have talked before going ahead with his plan that might have provided him with some knowledge?
Well since you ask...no. There was no such group. Clearly Solas did talk to someone and knew something about Corypheus but there was nobody left who knew about Corypheus's bodyhopping trick and particularly not how it worked and therefore why Solas's plan for killing Corypheus wouldn't work.
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