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So exactly do Mages fight Templars?


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#126
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Except Anora's codex makes it clear the other nations of Thedas are pretty much boycotting Ferelden because they are harboring the rebel mages.

 

That's a short term cost- and not a very heavy one when the world is already in chaos and Ferelden is an agrarian economy rather than some industrialized exporter.

 

 

Whereas the mage rebellion is a real cost in killing Fereldens, and Ferelden's spoils with the Chantry for ending the crisis could easily overcome the upfront opposition.

 

When Ferelden is alone, the world is already divided and the 'punishment' may not be worse than the disease. When Ferelden solves the problem, it won't be alone when it has the Chantry's gratitude, and it will fix the immediate problem killing its citiziens.

 

 

 

If the attempt is to gain brownie points, it's failing.

 

Just face it, Bioware just wants to have a default type of world regardless of how much sense it makes with regards to choices. Why else would Divine Vivienne ever allow the creation of the College?

 

 

What better way for you to identify dissidents than to invite them to identify themselves?

 

Not quite a Hundred Flowers, but not only have they most disatisfacted helpfully identified themselves and gotten themselves out of your bureaucracy, but now there's a group that not only offers some appeasement for reformist opponents, but offers a spectre of Mage Freedom! to rally the more traditionalists who would otherwise oppose Viviene.



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What better way for you to identify dissidents than to invite them to identify themselves?

 

Not quite a Hundred Flowers, but not only have they most disatisfacted helpfully identified themselves and gotten themselves out of your bureaucracy, but now there's a group that not only offers some appeasement for reformist opponents, but offers a spectre of Mage Freedom! to rally the more traditionalists who would otherwise oppose Viviene.

Out of curiosity, in a Divine Leliana scenario, what's the point of Vivienne creating a Circle that doesn't have Chantry support, leading it to just be a second College?



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Out of curiosity, in a Divine Leliana scenario, what's the point of Vivienne creating a Circle that doesn't have Chantry support, leading it to just be a second College?

it could very well have Chantry support from those parts of the Chantry that don't think Leliana has the right of it



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Out of curiosity, in a Divine Leliana scenario, what's the point of Vivienne creating a Circle that doesn't have Chantry support, leading it to just be a second College?

 

To set conditions to change Leliana's policy change.



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Stupid fan comic is stupid

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Stupid fan comic is stupid

 

That comic is canon. It is by Penny Arcade, commissioned by Bioware, and is canon. 



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Stupid fan comic is stupid

 

That comic is canon. It is by Penny Arcade, commissioned by Bioware, and is canon. 

That templar should have used their powers. Or just attacked :P



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Stupid fan comic is stupid

Don't be dissin my girl :P

 

That comic is canon. It is by Penny Arcade, commissioned by Bioware, and is canon. 

If Morrigan read someone using her as an example of common circle mages fighting templars, I'm pretty sure she'd lose her ****, lol.

 

Flemeth (obviously) and her daughter are not the norm, in Southern Thedas or Tevinter. So it doesn't really make a case for mages as a whole.



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If Morrigan read someone using her as an example of common circle mages fighting templars, I'm pretty sure she'd lose her ****, lol.
 
Flemeth (obviously) and her daughter are not the norm, in Southern Thedas or Tevinter. So it doesn't really make a case for mages as a whole.


Funny how my Male Cousland was a Templar when I romanced her...

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Flemeth (obviously) and her daughter are not the norm, in Southern Thedas or Tevinter. So it doesn't really make a case for mages as a whole.

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Official Bioware Picture Titled "Templar Blood Magic Victim" 

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I'm tempted of posting the image of Alistair cuffing that bearded twerp across the room and him crying when his barrier shattered. Also his goatee was stupid and greasy.

._.

That Magister didn't greet his death well. None of them have, all whine and cry and moan about how invincible they are until you gut them.

Just because I'm growing sick of this loopsided garbage flooding the thread.
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That templar should have used their powers. Or just attacked :P


Like I said stupid comic.

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I'm tempted of posting the image of Alistair cuffing that bearded twerp across the room and him crying when his barrier shattered. Also his goatee was stupid and greasy.

._.

That Magister didn't greet his death well. None of them have, all whine and cry and moan about how invincible they are until you gut them.

Just because I'm growing sick of this loopsided garbage flooding the thread.

 

Pointing out Mages and Templars are not 1-sided; it depends on who is stronger at the moment. It depends on Mage power relative to Templar's power. Lore-wise Templars don't auto-win against Mages. They just have an easier time than others. 



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Pointing out Mages and Templars are not 1-sided; it depends on who is stronger at the moment. It depends on Mage power relative to Templar's power. Lore-wise Templars don't auto-win against Mages. They just have an easier time than others.


That line ain't selling. Posting a blood mage image has little to do with any theoretical battle of wills between Templar talents and magic.

It's garbage pic spam.

Nothing more.

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That line ain't selling. Posting a blood mage image has little to do with any theoretical battle of wills between Templar talents and magic.

It's garbage pic spam.

Nothing more.

 

Despite it proving everything I say? Haha ok. If this argument means that much to you. 
 



#144
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Despite it proving everything I say? Haha ok. If this argument means that much to you.


No.

Because Templars have a effective counter blood magic...I mentioned that pages ago.

It's irrelevant.

#145
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No.

Because Templars have a effective counter blood magic...I mentioned that pages ago.

It's irrelevant.

You just ignored every point I made and repeated a strawman. 
 



#146
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You just ignored every point I made and repeated a strawman.


Uh no.

I pointed out a proven counter to that school of magic and called out the pointless pic spam for what it is.

You made no point that wasn't stressed to death already anyway. Blood magic was debunked, martial training, willpower, etc.

For a supposed strawman I said surprisingly little. Just that your points are old, the pictures pointless and meant to convey a inaccurate statement of ability.

If anything your wasting my time.

:P

#147
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The litany only prevents mind control, not regular blood magic like blood boiling. Are you even trying?
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That Magister didn't greet his death well. None of them have, all whine and cry and moan about how invincible they are until you gut them.

All the villainous templars do that as well. It's aparently a vital part of villain behavior in general.



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Awesome as the battle with Titus was, does it really count if you are in the Fade? The possibilities are endless if you are a powerful dreamer.



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Pointing out Mages and Templars are not 1-sided; it depends on who is stronger at the moment. It depends on Mage power relative to Templar's power. Lore-wise Templars don't auto-win against Mages. They just have an easier time than others. 

And yet, in every conflict its always the poor mages running away playing the victim, lol. And...

 

I'm sure mages have dragonblood lying around everywhere, lol.

 

No one ever said mages can't kill templars. But the fact remains, mages are always on the losing side until player involvement comes.