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[Master Warder Z_]

All the villainous templars do that as well. It's aparently a vital part of villain behavior in general.

Look at Loghain.

So I'd disagree.

[Medhia_Nox]

Bah... blood magic is for the weak who cannot do real Thedosian magic.  

 

Were I a Thedosian mage I would make it my vocation to train to specifically neutralize blood mages.

 

Cursor of Mortality "Uh oh, I didn't draw blood!  Go ahead stupid... keep cutting yourself."  Glyph of Neutralization.  Drain life.  "Go ahead, cut yourself some more."  Mana Clash  "Go on, keep going."  Drain Mana.  "Uh huh, cut cut cut you stupid little twit."  Mana Cleanse  "Oh, nice spell but... "  Spell Shield.  "Dies of self-mutilation." 

Templar:  "My sword is draw, I am ready to face the evil blood mage!" 

Me:  "Yeah, ummm... about that."  *points to the self-mutilated puddle on the ground*

[Xilizhra]

Bah... blood magic is for the weak who cannot do real Thedosian magic.  

 

Were I a Thedosian mage I would make it my vocation to train to specifically neutralize blood mages.

 

Cursor of Mortality "Uh oh, I didn't draw blood!  Go ahead stupid... keep cutting yourself."  Glyph of Neutralization.  Drain life.  "Go ahead, cut yourself some more."  Mana Clash  "Go on, keep going."  Drain Mana.  "Uh huh, cut cut cut you stupid little twit."  Mana Cleanse  "Oh, nice spell but... "  Spell Shield.  "Dies of self-mutilation." 

Templar:  "My sword is draw, I am ready to face the evil blood mage!" 

Me:  "Yeah, ummm... about that."  *points to the self-mutilated puddle on the ground*

So, basically, all they have to do is paralyze you with Blood Wound, use Dispel Magic to get rid of the curse, and then... well, it's Blood Wound, so they can do basically whatever.

[Colonelkillabee]

So basically what I'm getting from these grade A responses is that most mages ain't **** unless they become a demon's ****** for blood magic powers. K. Got it XD.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Xilizhra:  You're right... lead with Anti-Magic ward.  

 

@Colonelkillabee:  Well, to be fair... they're excellent at painting themselves as victims.  It helps with justifying the self-mutilation and inevitable  murder of others for power.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Bet all the mage-haters would love the qunari considering that mages were the trump card against the qunari invasion.

[Medhia_Nox]

Bet all the mage-haters would love the qunari considering that mages were the trump card against the qunari invasion.

Have you met their new Saarebas?  

 

The Qunari have dealt with their mage issue. 

[Colonelkillabee]

Master Warder Z hates the Qunari more than almost everyone here, lol.

 

And lets not start rock paper scissor logic by building a case for mages because of how they perform against other enemies. Tevinter is still fighting Qunari.

[Colonelkillabee]

I hate the Qunari as well though I'm no mage hater, so. My position is the same as Vivienne's, no more no less.

[Xilizhra]

@Xilizhra:  You're right... lead with Anti-Magic ward. 

Well, if we're going by DAO rules, really, the winner is the one who casts Mana Clash first. DA2 is more balanced without being as boring as DAI, so I'd recommend that (not to mention that DAI doesn't include blood mage mechanics).

[Medhia_Nox]

Well, if we're going by DAO rules, really, the winner is the one who casts Mana Clash first. DA2 is more balanced without being as boring as DAI, so I'd recommend that (not to mention that DAI doesn't include blood mage mechanics).

 

Bah... DA2 is when DA mages started showing their true colors as one trick ponies.  

"You mage... go blow that up."  

"Oh, should I use fire, ice, blood, lightning, spirit... "

 

[Xilizhra]

Bah... DA2 is when DA mages started showing their true colors as one trick ponies.  

"You mage... go blow that up."  

"Oh, should I use fire, ice, blood, lightning, spirit... "

Bloody uncreative DA2 team. Oh well.

[MisterJB]

doublepost.

[MisterJB]

There is a lot of indignated, egotistical screaming about "muh freedoms", followed by uselessly flailing one's arms around as mana is drained and ended with choking on steel and blood.

Very fun to watch, actually.

[Secret Rare]

Bah... blood magic is for the weak who cannot do real Thedosian magic.  

 

 

Blood magic is an extra source of  spells the most notorious are the ones who allows brain control.

[Medhia_Nox]

@secret rare:  Blood mage spells are for the deranged and corrupt.  

[Secret Rare]

I don't have any particular interest in blood magic(i'm more interested in spirits)just pointed out that some spells are unique of that school.

[Master Warder Z_]

Master Warder Z hates the Qunari more than almost everyone here, lol.

 

And lets not start rock paper scissor logic by building a case for mages because of how they perform against other enemies. Tevinter is still fighting Qunari.

 

It is true! I dislike them and their commie logic immensely, I am not like these modern edge lords who grew up in the 90s, when that crap was irrelevant, oh no, I saw the true cost of such systems as a child and I will never support that sort of ultarinian communue merticacy styled government. The only certainty I offer the Qunari is me disagreeing with them no matter the circumstance, I'd rather have Darkspawn take over the world then Qunari, at least then everyone else is dead and no one has to suffer under that garbage.

[Hellion Rex]

Blood magic is an extra source of spells the most notorious are the ones who allows brain control.

Quite. If nothing else, it gives a power boost that can shatter even Templar abilities. Evangeline, for example, couldn't shield for very long against a blood magic laced spell.

[Master Warder Z_]

Quite. If nothing else, it gives a power boost that can shatter even Templar abilities. Evangeline, for example, couldn't shield for very long against a blood magic laced spell.

 

Until they recite a single chant and the power behind the spell fails utterly leaving the Mage just enough time to  wonder what went wrong before they are gutted. Evangeline was a trash tier Templar anyway, she lacked the conviction and fortitude of that noble order and it reflected in her abilities. I am sad we got to meet so few Templars of actual ability truth be told.

[Hellion Rex]

Until they recite a single chant and the power behind the spell fails utterly leaving the Mage just enough time to wonder what went wrong before they are gutted. Evangeline was a trash tier Templar anyway, she lacked the conviction and fortitude of that noble order and it reflected in her abilities. I am sad we got to meet so few Templars of actual ability truth be told.

What a crock of crap dude. Just because she isn't a zealot like you seem to desire hardly negates her capabilities as a Templar.

[Master Warder Z_]

What a crock of crap dude. Just because she isn't a zealot like you seem to desire hardly negates her capabilities as a Templar.

 

Lambert dispatched her inside three engagements, in book terms that equates to around two paragraphs, in actual swordsmanship? Inside maybe a minute and a half. I found her a overly weak and ineffective combatant, the fact I disagree with her politics doesn't change the fact that I looked at her feats and skills and combat and came up with the conclusion that she's a very middling warrior, she doesn't have the skills to hold it in the big leagues.

[Colonelkillabee]

Not to mention, the zealotry as they call it is a part of why their willpower is so strong in the first place. Cullen for instance was able to resist brain control for a very long time, and part of that is because of his conviction, unyielding and true.

[Hellion Rex]

Not to mention, the zealotry as they call it is a part of why their willpower is so strong in the first place. Cullen for instance was able to resist brain control for a very long time, and part of that is because of his conviction, unyielding and true.

I disagree. Zealotry alone hardly begets strength of willpower, in my opinion. I wouldn't dub Cassandra to be a zealot, and yet I would place her in top tier in terms of willpower and strength.
I will grant that Seeker powers, while similar to Templars in practice, might work a bit differently than a Templar's in function. That said, I still find the comparison apt enough.

[Hellion Rex]

Lambert dispatched her inside three engagements, in book terms that equates to around two paragraphs, in actual swordsmanship? Inside maybe a minute and a half. I found her a overly weak and ineffective combatant, the fact I disagree with her politics doesn't change the fact that I looked at her feats and skills and combat and came up with the conclusion that she's a very middling warrior, she doesn't have the skills to hold it in the big leagues.

I wasn't specifically talking about her swordsmanship. I was speaking about her anti magic capabilities as a Templar. I'd argue that one doesn't have to be exceptional in swordsmanship to be very adept at repelling and cancelling magic.