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[N7Jamaican]

Only major RPG I haven't finished was Dragon Age.  I've beaten TW3, Fallout 4, (hopefully Dark Souls 3), and I am such a huge Mass Effect fan that I will complete that game as well.

 

I'm not worried yet.

[Rascoth]

I have no fear for this game.

 

I have seen nothing of this game. Just CGI trailers, no gameplay. Therefore, I can't really judge it.

 

I am one of the apparent few of Bioware's fans that loved Inquisition and played over 300 hours of it, Most people seem to hate the fetch quests, but I didn't mind them. 

 

I just want the game, and I'll enjoy it. There have been VERY few games that I've absolutely hated. 

 

I love Mass Effect and all of it's wonderful-ness, including it's flaws.

 

I like when you make a post like that. Reminds me that reason is still a thing.

[Scarlett]

I have no fear for this game.

 

I have seen nothing of this game. Just CGI trailers, no gameplay. Therefore, I can't really judge it.

 

I am one of the apparent few of Bioware's fans that loved Inquisition and played over 300 hours of it, Most people seem to hate the fetch quests, but I didn't mind them. 

 

I just want the game, and I'll enjoy it. There have been VERY few games that I've absolutely hated. 

 

I love Mass Effect and all of it's wonderful-ness, including it's flaws.

 

 

Same here, I'm just waiting to have more news and stay positive.

 

To be honest I'm not fond of DAI and all the pointless side quests they put everywhere inside the game, but strangely enough, I won't mind doing those kind of things  on MEA... maybe because it's space and because I love the ME universe sooooo much...

[vbibbi]

Valid Reasons to Worry:

 

- The Protagonist is Sesame Street's Miss Piggy.

Why would this be a reason to worry? I'd play the crap out of that game.

[Khrystyn]

For me, judging a future game with little to no useful current information, and basing one's concerns/worries/fears due to a disappointment from a recent product, is like trying to predict the stock market's direction. I don't see any value in thinking "Oh no - it's going to be as bad as the last one!" Geesh. Steve Wasniak tried to create a useful hand-held device called Newton. It was released in 1993, and ended in 1998. High costs, lack of SW apps, and Apple's money woes led to it being shelved in the spring of 1998. In the Spring of 1999, Apple stock was selling for $12.50 USD per share. Steve Jobs was elsewhere, and the situation was grim. And the fate of the Newton - a hand held device with hand-writing recognition, applications, and data/file/media storage? I guess that  tech idea never panned out either. The urban legend I've heard about Thomas Edison is that he went through over 100 designs to make the light bulb. Afterwards, Edison was reportedly asked: "Didn't you have 100 failures? "  His response was something like: "No. I had 100 helpful lessons in how not to make a light bulb." Something like that. The past does not indicate the value of the future. Why would game development be any different? I don't think so.

[Obliviousmiss]

^^^

 

 

Thank you for making sense. I wish more people thought like this! 

[Kabooooom]

I am slightly worried, not just about the reported size of the game but also the change in setting. And I have been one of the people who always supported the move to Andromeda, even before it was officially leaked or announced.

But the thing is, if you slack on the story, a move of setting like that could come off extraordinarily horrible and the story itself may be a flop. You have to have talented writers, which Bioware for the most part does, but after ME3 's ending, I am cautious.

These two concerns are related to each other too. If they focus more on nonlinearity and a massive open world, the story may suffer. If the story suffers, the change of setting may make it suffer even more. And at the end you may be left with a hollow shell, only superficially mass effect, devoid of much that we loved about the prior trilogy.

But we know next to nothing yet. It is premature to say the sky is falling. Those worries are in the back of my mind, yeah, but they may be unfounded. Just wait for E3, OP.

[Silvos]

It is a pretty well know fact (within the gaming publisher management people) that most gamers do not finish these huge scale RPGs and that advertising that you have a huge game is simply a marketing technique to sell as many copies as possible. What I fear is that EA is going to push for this whole game, Mass Effect: Andromeda, to simply be a marketing tactic to get as many people to buy this game as possible. I do not believe that the Bioware Dev team just wants to make a game for marketing strategy alone. That said, all we have really heard about this game is that it is going to be a big, meaning size of in game space game, focusing on the story of humans in a far away galaxy. It is my fear that this game's primary focus is going to be on the size of this game rather than anything that is actually contained in the space of the game. What is told about this game from a marketing perspective tells a lot about what the publisher thinks will sell the game the best. I should mention that I am not primarily concerned that this game will have no good content in it, but I do fear that exploration and vastness, as opposed to emotional appeal and richness will be the dominant function that this game has to offer.

 

This is some rambling, incoherent nonsense. Read this out loud and people will think you're the Rain Man.

[Draining Dragon]

It is now the year 2016. We stand on the brink of a new release, and I am afraid for myself, for my jimmies, for my favorite franchise.

Because if my time as a gamer taught me one thing: it's that marketing, marketing never changes.

[Cyonan]

For me, judging a future game with little to no useful current information, and basing one's concerns/worries/fears due to a disappointment from a recent product, is like trying to predict the stock market's direction. I don't see any value in thinking "Oh no - it's going to be as bad as the last one!" Geesh. Steve Wasniak tried to create a useful hand-held device called Newton. It was released in 1993, and ended in 1998. High costs, lack of SW apps, and Apple's money woes led to it being shelved in the spring of 1998. In the Spring of 1999, Apple stock was selling for $12.50 USD per share. Steve Jobs was elsewhere, and the situation was grim. And the fate of the Newton - a hand held device with hand-writing recognition, applications, and data storage? I guess that  tech idea never panned out either. The urban legend I've heard about Thomas Edison is that he went through over 100 designs to make the light bulb. Afterwards, Edison was reportedly asked: "Didn't you have 100 failures? "  His response was something like: "No. I had 100 helpful lessons in how not to make a light bub." Something like that. The past does not indicate the value of the future. Why would game development be any different? I don't think so.

 

Most of the worrying comes in the form of a combination of:

 

1. Some people(myself not included) believe BioWare hasn't released a good game since DA:O and/or ME2

2. BioWare has barely said anything about ME:A other than the emphasis on exploration, which many people(myself included) believe that DA:I suffered from them trying to be more open world.

[Fuenf789]

What about tamarind paste? I'm happy to experiment with unusual stuff. It'd put some colour and new texture to the experience.

Now that is a positively interesting angle. Fearless has its meaning when spicing up fish. In addition, to lemon , fresh orange, ginger or cilantro (koriander) was my surprise discoveries. To boldly go where no fish has gone before.

[Sanunes]

Most of the worrying comes in the form of a combination of:

 

1. Some people(myself not included) believe BioWare hasn't released a good game since DA:O and/or ME2

2. BioWare has barely said anything about ME:A other than the emphasis on exploration, which many people(myself included) believe that DA:I suffered from them trying to be more open world.

 

I am pretty sure there are a large number people that would say BioWare hasn't made a good game since Baldur's Gate 2, for there were plenty of upset people about Dragon Age: Origins and how they misled the community that it would be like Baldur's Gate because they used the term "spiritual successor".  

 

Personally I think there has always been "worry" for any title because BioWare doesn't release the same game each release like Ubisoft so people are always upset that the game they enjoyed has been ruined because BioWare made changes to how the game plays instead of just slapping a couple of new mine things on the existing game.

 

As far as BioWare not telling us anything, I think the community is to blame with how people have reacted to BioWare trying to stay communicating with us during the development of Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age: Inquisition.  I have experienced someone twisting my words to suit their scenario once and it ended a friendship, I could see a company not being nearly as open with how people reacted to the early communication with those three games.

[goofyomnivore]

I'm thinking they bit off more than they can chew with DA:I and doing 10 zones or however many there were on their first 'open world' experience. I hope they either get a better grasp of world building, or create a smaller amount of zones with higher quality. Hell I'd just like BioWare to do an awesome city zone for once. I've never felt wow'd by the Citadel, Illium, Kirkwall, Val-Royeaux, or whatever 'city' they've created in their games.

[Bizantura]

If you are that fearful, don't buy it.

 

There is no news of the game, worring about projections is so futile and time consuming.

 

Mostly I like Bioware because of their predictability because its a carbon copy of the previous with far more pretty pictures then when they started, reading is replaced by real speach.  More streamlined story I suppose.  The progression is simply coupled with new and more technological capabilities.

 

That all new radical change new invention is a fallacy and most people want exactly the same without knowing it.  It seems wanting the same makes you a lesser human so we kid ourselves and sadly enough we are good at it.  In the end is DAI that differrent from Baldurs Gate?

[laudable11]

I fear it will be a SJW boondoggle.

[vbibbi]

As far as BioWare not telling us anything, I think the community is to blame with how people have reacted to BioWare trying to stay communicating with us during the development of Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age: Inquisition.  I have experienced someone twisting my words to suit their scenario once and it ended a friendship, I could see a company not being nearly as open with how people reacted to the early communication with those three games.

 

While I agree with this mostly, there is a difference in communicating with a friend and with a company whose product you buy. Talking with your friend is about enjoying the company of each other and having a good time. Talking with a for profit company (not the fan community) is about expressing what you like and dislike about their products that you have bought. And it's to their benefit to listen to this feedback and analyze whether the feedback could be useful to them in future products.

 

I am in no way saying that a lot of the bashing and venom expressed on these forums is acceptable or that any employee at Bioware should have to endure online bullying. And there is no easy solution on how to separate useful feedback from hate speech and trolls posting out of boredom. But I do think it's a mistake that Bioware, as a whole, no longer communicates through their official forums and use Twitter or reddit. They don't even post many official announcements/updates here anymore, it's up to fans to find the news and repost it here.

 

EDIT: Also, I am actually okay with Bioware not revealing too much about MEA right now. I think that's a smart move on their part, having learned from leaked footage being seen as promised material and from talking too much about features that are not 100% confirmed to be included in the final product.

 

I would say that it's their own fault if they shared game content to the community that didn't end up being in the game. They are not to blame for the pre-alpha DAI footage being shown. That was leaked, was in no way official, and was not even an alpha build. But I will blame them for saying that the keeps could be customized when the final game didn't have that. That was on public record, not something leaked or said in a private conversation. It's awesome that developers are so excited about the content of the game they're making that they want to share it with fans, but they should know that if that content ends up being cut, fans are understandably going to be disappointed.

Modifié par vbibbi, 31 mars 2016 - 06:06 .

[KaiserShep]

I fear it will be a SJW boondoggle.

I love the word boondoggle. It really should mean something more positive, like a bunch of puppies or something.

[KaiserShep]

I'm not really worried at all. So long as I have decent options for dialogue and a good character creator, I'll probably be pretty happy. I trust BioWare to give me a gaggle of good and colorful NPC's to entertain me with.

[iM3GTR]

I fear it will be a SJW boondoggle.

I fear Rear Admiral Mikhailovich has infiltrated these forums...

[This is the End My Friend]

 

I am in no way saying that a lot of the bashing and venom expressed on these forums is acceptable or that any employee at Bioware should have to endure online bullying. And there is no easy solution on how to separate useful feedback from hate speech and trolls posting out of boredom. But I do think it's a mistake that Bioware, as a whole, no longer communicates through their official forums and use Twitter or reddit. They don't even post many official announcements/updates here anymore, it's up to fans to find the news and repost it here.

 

I don't really hang out on other forums, have other developers moved on to Twitter etc? Twitter to me seems like a terrible place for any honest discussion. Its just an echo chamber for your own already established beliefs. Maybe that's what they prefer. 

[Sarayne]

From what I understand this sums up this thread.
Doom Dooooom DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.(is that right or not enough doom?)

[vbibbi]

I don't really hang out on other forums, have other developers moved on to Twitter etc? Twitter to me seems like a terrible place for any honest discussion. Its just an echo chamber for your own already established beliefs. Maybe that's what they prefer. 

AFAIK, most of the news about games is now posted in Twitter, Bioware blogs (which is appropriate) or in interviews/articles by game sites.

 

But it used to be that Bioware employees would post updates and news and announcements on these forums, as well. Even if it was a read-only post, that's better than relying on other forum users to have to find the information elsewhere and share it here.

 

One of the reasons the Twitter threads are so popular IMO is that it's the only real contact the community has to the developers.

[Onewomanarmy]

Only major RPG I haven't finished was Dragon Age.  I've beaten TW3, Fallout 4, (hopefully Dark Souls 3), and I am such a huge Mass Effect fan that I will complete that game as well.
 
I'm not worried yet.

Oh damn, you should definitely get started then. Don't know if you mean the whole trilogy or if you mean Origins alone but the whole lot is worth it imo. I love Dragon age, my favorite series, especially Origins stands out for me out of the three. You have something good to look forward to xD 

[Prince Enigmatic]

I fear it will be a SJW boondoggle.

 

 

I genuinely wonder if its the lack of news on ME:A that is causing all this concern, or whether Mass Effect 3's ending is STILL influencing some people's overall perceptions on ME:A, despite said lack of news.

 

I personally am not worried. Call that naivety, call that ambivalence. If ME:A turns out to be the disaster some people have been predicting (hoping for?) 'll still have the original Mass Effect trilogy, with all three entries being on par for me personally, so no sweat.

 

 

From what I understand this sums up this thread.
Doom Dooooom DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.(is that right or not enough doom?)

 

Not enough doom.

[This is the End My Friend]

My question was more regarding other Publishers/Developers, is it mainly just BioWare/EA that have fled from there own forums or have others (ie. Bethesda or whomever) followed suit? I understand if you don't know, because I have no idea. LOL.