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A potential leak in the form of a Mass Effect Andromeda survey was released.  It can be found at this link:  http://www.eurogamer...ng-survey-leaks.  With humanity -- or just the Milky Way species -- being the invaders this time around, it raises some interesting questions.  Will we be the invaders who try to co-exist, or will we go all "British Empire" and annihilate the natives?  What would you try to do?


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Kill them all and let God sort them out.
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A potential leak in the form of a Mass Effect Andromeda survey was released. It can be found at this link: http://www.eurogamer...ng-survey-leaks. With humanity -- or just the Milky Way species -- being the invaders this time around, it raises some interesting questions. Will we be the invaders who try to co-exist, or will we go all "British Empire" and annihilate the natives? What would you try to do?

I don't believe we'll go that far. We are just trying to look for a new home for humanity and other races. I doubt we'll do it by force and take any of their own worlds. We'll just get the ones that aren't taken.

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What I would do depends on the specific problems and questions the plot presents, but I'm still holding out hope they won't play up the whole native species oppression/subjugation/annihilation thing very much. If at least one of the Andromedan species is more advanced than we are rather than less, it would go a long way to avoiding anything reminiscent of Avatar, which in my opinion would be a very good idea. 


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This is why that I don't take BW seriously is because of crap like this. I don't want to invade and destroy but yo explore and have adventures in another galaxy not to conquer. I don't want to do that because it's wrong and it's evil.
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 Will we be the invaders who try to co-exist, or will we go all "British Empire" and annihilate the natives?  What would you try to do?

 

I would imagine that Bioware would try to balance these two things. If the whole game was co-existing then that defeats a lot of the friction of being in a new galaxy and dealing with the natives. I do not think I have to explain why going all in on the annihilate scenario would be bad. I would imagine that Bioware would make some of the Andromeda species peaceful who want to co-exist, others who want all out war and then some who would be in between. I would imagine it would also be impacted by if they have any kind of 'council' type deal or if everyone is independent of each other. 

 

I do think that there is plenty of potential here for you to have to make some tough, moral decisions on what to if Bioware pulls it off really well. 


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The real question is what's EA Bioware's secret agenda? After EA took over here is the messages that each game has delivered.

ME2: Shepard dies and is resurrected to serve an evil master

DA2: Hawk is forced to join one of two corrupt groups that want to wage a war that will end the world

ME3: Shepard is guided along a path that has the ideal that Synthesis inevitable

DAI: an Inquisition is the only way to save a doomed world

MEA: Invasion is a necessity?


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What would you try to do?

 

Depends on how it looks...

 

 

 

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Kill them all and let God sort them out.

 

That would be a bit rash, but to each their own.

 

I don't believe we'll go that far. We are just trying to look for a new home for humanity and other races. I doubt we'll do it by force and take any of their own worlds. We'll just get the ones that aren't taken.

 

Well I do think we'll have the option to invade outright.  This is a series built on a Renegade/Paragon morality system.  I could see some real repercussions for each decision though.



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I would imagine that Bioware would try to balance these two things. If the whole game was co-existing then that defeats a lot of the friction of being in a new galaxy and dealing with the natives. I do not think I have to explain why going all in on the annihilate scenario would be bad. I would imagine that Bioware would make some of the Andromeda species peaceful who want to co-exist, others who want all out war and then some who would be in between. I would imagine it would also be impacted by if they have any kind of 'council' type deal or if everyone is independent of each other. 

 

I do think that there is plenty of potential here for you to have to make some tough, moral decisions on what to if Bioware pulls it off really well. 

 

That's pretty similar to my thoughts as well.  Co-existence or annihilation would be the basis for some potentially intense moral decisions.  After all, you are finding a new home for your civilization, or, at the very least, finding a more permanent home for those aboard the ARK.  Co-existence is nice, but expansion would be limited and there are bound to be conflicts with natives looking to oust the outsiders.  On the other hand, annihilation simplifies any diplomatic hurdles and instead replaces them with a lack of information and help.  Nobody knows the planet like the natives and they're all dead.


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There's a thin line on this one.

There is a difference between discovering an uninhabited island and colonising it and say showing up with your navy and demanding they open themselves to trade or hand over an island.

Going full Captain Cook as the protagonist would be a bad image and well over the line.

The wildcard here is the Krogan. If they show up in numbers I doubt they'd care if a planet is inhabited or not. Forget Captain Cook, the Krogan will go full Genghis Khan and kill everything that breathes within a certain radius.

So its highly likely we'll be fighting them again as a way of gaining trust. Or perhaps we do what the romans did. Swoop in and save a smaller outgunned group from a bigger badder OP group.

Either way there's more than enough room here to not be the British Empire and even with that many poms in the alliance, they are a fairly extreme example anyway.
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The real question is what's EA Bioware's secret agenda? After EA took over here is the messages that each game has delivered.
ME2: Shepard dies and is resurrected to serve an evil master
DA2: Hawk is forced to join one of two corrupt groups that want to wage a war that will end the world
ME3: Shepard is guided along a path that has the ideal that Synthesis inevitable
DAI: an Inquisition is the only way to save a doomed world
MEA: Invasion is a necessity?


Oh God it's happening, ea is going to take over the world.

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I hope we have bit of choice in that, I'd hate if there was just one "good" or "evil" way to play.


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DEUS VULT!


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What if upon entering andromeda we aren't initially in the helius cluster?

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Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.
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There's a thin line on this one.

There is a difference between discovering an uninhabited island and colonising it and say showing up with your navy and demanding they open themselves to trade or hand over an island.

Going full Captain Cook as the protagonist would be a bad image and well over the line.

The wildcard here is the Krogan. If they show up in numbers I doubt they'd care if a planet is inhabited or not. Forget Captain Cook, the Krogan will go full Genghis Khan and kill everything that breathes within a certain radius.

So its highly likely we'll be fighting them again as a way of gaining trust. Or perhaps we do what the romans did. Swoop in and save a smaller outgunned group from a bigger badder OP group.

Either way there's more than enough room here to not be the British Empire and even with that many poms in the alliance, they are a fairly extreme example anyway.

 

Regardless, Ryder and his team are just explorers, and our decisions may be met with some conflict from the others on the ARK.  Even if we go peaceful, there may be a faction that just goes nuts and complicates things.


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Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.

Death to the False Emperor!!



OT: Most likely there will be advanced species that protect/enslave the less advanced and we will have to either fight them or cooperate with them.



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I hope they will do a good balance between things. I see why this can cause troubles to Andromeda natives (imagine massive aliens ships coming on our solar system, many will be worried, I think). Communication troubles will also don't help. I find this very interesting, I just hope it will be well done and the dialogs wheel will be full of various answers : we need many options to deal with complicated situations.

 

Also I'm curious to see how the will handle Paragon/Renegade and if your orientation will really change something on the main plot. It would be nice.

 

As for uninhabited planets, I'm curious to see what will happen. I mean, what would you think if an alien colony from another galaxy was staying all of a sudden on Mars ? (ok, I would be totally thrilled, but I don't think the majority of the human kind would react this way...). Or maybe the colonies have to be done on totally empty solar systems (easier to say than to do : many solar systems can't support life, also humanity have other needs than Krogan, Asari, Turians etc. We obviously need more than just one planet)

The thing is, we know nothing about the aliens we will met, who they are, their level of technology etc. so it's complicated to know what will really happen.

 

I just want to avoid the "good species from the Milky Way who just need a sweet home" between the "bad and evil Andromeda natives who attack us without no reason".


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Dude, it's been on first page for two days.

http://forum.bioware...-bit-more-info/


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I tend to see this as us being refugees, more than invaders. I believe some aliens will be understanding and might help, some will see us as invaders and will attack us, and some will try to take advantage of us. Really, nothing different than what we can observe with refugees nowadays

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Wasn't it mentioned that the guy in the N7 trailer wasn't Ryder & that we'll have to deal with him in some way later in the game? Just an idea, but what if he's the type of yank that destroys the natives & their culture & due to the paragon/renegade system we play as the one that can potentially build the alliances, or continue down the path of conquering the frontier lands?

 

Just a little thought in my head, not up-to-date on all info.



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I tend to see this as us being refugees, more than invaders. I believe some aliens will be understanding and might help, some will see us as invaders and will attack us, and some will try to take advantage of us. Really, nothing different than what we can observe with refugees nowadays

 

I'm hoping that'd be more the angle they are going for especially in terms of the aliens having diverse opinions on us.


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I'd live up to my name and invade with an army!! I'd extinguish all the vicious people and make the galaxy a much better place to live in  <_<



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No, let's not talk about invasions. Let's talk about love and peace instead!