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[Thesexyscot]

im around 400 nm dragons now and only had 1 hakkon

[Caldyrvan]

I remember a game with you today in FC , wish you luck for your next dragon ... and try not to inspect the ground too much

[ReadingRambo220]

Grats! I popped into your game for a sec late last night, but I have no agent left that could contribute to NM FC so left quietly You were on your archer so I guess you were testing out the bow? I am still rocking my heartstring....

Haha I was! You're always welcome in my games.

[VeryDark Omega]

Dayuum. Next time you random in my game, remind me and I will set it to the dragon for ya.

Thank the maker! Just in time my friends, CORNERED ME! UGH! It's a wonder I lasted as long as I did!

[maSu]

well...

a friend killed 11 nm dragons and got his 2nd Hakkon weapon. I killed 13 dragons: nothing. Fun fact: we killed his 11 dragons together. Another friend was in Party for 6(total kills: 6) nm dragons and he got one Hakkon weapon.

Our fourth partymember killed 50+ nm dragons and didnt get any Hakkon drop.

 

 

 

 

It's a little bit strange, but im relaxed:

 

Staff? no please. Got the Heart of Pride which is awesome on most mages (well Sarebas would be stronger with Hakkon because of skill spam, but my arcane warrior loves heart of pride and stormpact belt)

 

Bow? omg no² archers are bad. really bad. maybe ... my archer would be not as useless as he is if he would have a hakkon bow with +30% (or more) crit%, but ... come on developers. while most classes got nice combos, archers got ... nothing. I can use leaping shot and i can spam it. Yea. But the damage is much lower than a SINGLE chain lightning. wtf?

 

1h Weapon? Maybe ... maybe legionaire or templar would not be as useless as they are without hakkon...

 

2h Weapon? Yes! Reaver gogogo, maybe avvar

 

Dagger? Yes! Yes! Silend Sister > all

 

(well, maybe hakkon weapons are better with higher promotions. actually i got 16/34/30 --> my crit% is really low)

 

 

 

 

 

Well even if i would find a Hakkon weapon, it would be the wrong weapon. I think i'll get 5 Bows (and savlaged them directly) before getting something useful.

Fun Fact: i began playing DA:I 3 weeks ago. Never touched the singleplayer. The multiplayer is amazing. A simple grind. But ... why not? It's much better than Destiny or many other Grind-based multiplayer games. Just funny rounds which take about 10-15 minutes. Simple. Fast.

Promotion system is a little bit strange, because of restarting on lvl1 sucks, buts it is just a single round: 10 minutes of feeling useless. 
 

[frozenfuryy]

Well HOP is good on AW yes bucause fast attacks but dont forget that amont of barrier is based how much u hit and u do massive dammage with hakkon staff if u have high cun autoattacks also higher

[Silversmurf]

Bow? omg no² archers are bad. really bad.

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[lcneed]

Bow? omg no² archers are bad. really bad. maybe ... my archer would be not as useless as he is if he would have a hakkon bow with +30% (or more) crit%, but ... come on developers. while most classes got nice combos, archers got ... nothing. I can use leaping shot and i can spam it. Yea. But the damage is much lower than a SINGLE chain lightning. wtf?

 

I don't really use leaping shot much.   The animation takes too long.   opportunity knocks + look like it hurts + explosive shot + spring trap + upgraded caltrops  + PI = close quarter non-stop explosion + self rez undead goodness.

[maSu]

Well HOP is good on AW yes bucause fast attacks but dont forget that amont of barrier is based how much u hit and u do massive dammage with hakkon staff if u have high cun autoattacks also higher

Yes that's right.

 

High cunning -> Hakkon > all

Low cunning -> other items may be better.

 

I don't really use leaping shot much.   The animation takes too long.   opportunity knocks + look like it hurts + explosive shot + spike trap + upgraded caltrops  + PI = close quarter non-stop explosion.

Yes. Spike Trap is nice, explosive shot too.

Anyway: each silent sister or arcane warrior does much more damage. lvl10+ silent sister or arcane warrior is able to solo perilous (pulling a friends lvl1 char). Archer is not able to do this. Well, i tried. It is possible (non demons). But it takes too long and i died in 5th area because of too many enemies.

[Rhorim]

What I fail to understand is why new players try to farm for Hakkons when they have low promotes.  There are other weapons that will actually serve them better, until their stats would start to make use of Hakkons.

 

Better off farming perilous dragons.

[maSu]

What I fail to understand is why new players try to farm for Hakkons when they have low promotes.  There are other weapons that will actually serve them better, until their stats would start to make use of Hakkons.

 

Better off farming perilous dragons.

If new players are able to do NM dragons.... why not?

 

got stats around 30. 2 friends got similar stats. If we are playing together, nightmare is not a problem at all (lvl16+). 

While someone is <lvl16, we play perilous.

 

We got most items except hakkon.

 

And with hakkon dagger/2h it would be much easier to promote. So why not?

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Bow? omg no² archers are bad. really bad. maybe ... my archer would be not as useless as he is if he would have a hakkon bow with +30% (or more) crit%, but ... come on developers. while most classes got nice combos, archers got ... nothing. I can use leaping shot and i can spam it. Yea. But the damage is much lower than a SINGLE chain lightning. wtf?

Bahahahaha, even with my Hakkon gone (well everything deleted lol) I guarantee I can out damage any of your guys with my Archer. He is amazeballs. The sound of his Spring Trap will destroy your earballs (anyone get the reference? I hope so).

Conclusion; Archer is amazeballs

[Silversmurf]

If new players are able to do NM dragons.... why not?

got stats around 30. 2 friends got similar stats. If we are playing together, nightmare is not a problem at all (lvl16+).
While someone is <lvl16, we play perilous.

We got most items except hakkon.

And with hakkon dagger/2h it would be much easier to promote. So why not?

Got an 800 item score? Hakkon's are locked behind this. ..... awaiting ProntoNP to debunk

If you are saving your gold then probably not. That's why.

[Thesexyscot]

i can barely even stomach playing this game anymore with this god awful drop rate on hakkons mixed with leeches expecting to be boosted every single game 

theyre has to be some kind of trick to get the hakkons easier considering ive done over 400 dragons and had 1 in the space of 6 months 

i heard sum1 say if u have any hakkons from victory chests it lowers ur drop rate and i have 3 

i dont exactly want to delete all 3 as 2 of them have highest available dmg on weapon 

but enough is enough i may be faster grinding the whole lot , i cant salvage 1 then do another 300 dragons just to get 1 hakkon , its really getting out of hand , the game is a methane pit at this current rate just trying to get a weapon i want to use to make it playable

[Silversmurf]

Do not salvage them.

Everyone has to go through the same pain.

Your drop rate is currently at 2% and will stay that way. If you salvage you may NEVER get another Hakkon.

It's luck. It's a LOW drop rate after you get your 3rd.

You would need to go back in time to improve your chances as once the new weapons were added the loot pool size increased.

Store chest is 1% so just farm gold and spend spend spend.

[lcneed]

Store chest is 1% so just farm gold and spend spend spend.

 

I think the 1% is "top loots" which include all the level 27's and hakkon, PI, and probably all the level 26 purples.   So to get his last hakkon (he said 3 from vic chest and 1 from dragon).  It would be about 1 in 2000 items I think.... which is about 500K spent

[Pichequate]

theyre has to be some kind of trick to get the hakkons

Persistence, patience, and gold.

It took me ~6m to acquire every unique (purple) and crafted (Hakkon and Crescent) item in the game. All but four came from store chests. While it is a grind, the incremental acquisition of these items was very uplifting and kept me going....mostly. Friends and a passion for the game were also beneficial to me.

[Thesexyscot]

guy i played with got all 6 in 2 weeks

[Rhorim]

Playing nightmare and watching from the fade aren't the same. By all means play how you want, just keep your complaints to yourself.

[maSu]

Got an 800 item score? Hakkon's are locked behind this. ..... awaiting ProntoNP to debunk

If you are saving your gold then probably not. That's why.

 

 

Opened 175 2000gold chests yet.

8 Items per chest.

 

is 175x8 > 800? think so.

 

anyway: didnt read anything about the item threshold which is "confirmed" by developers. Most comments:

 

"RNG is RNG".

[Silversmurf]

Opened 175 2000gold chests yet.
8 Items per chest.

is 175x8 > 800? think so.

anyway: didnt read anything about the item threshold which is "confirmed" by developers. Most comments:

"RNG is RNG".

Well it was confirmed by the guy that programmed it.

You sound like you should be okay though score wise.

Also, all the NM dragons you did before you had a score of 800 don't count as Hakkon attempts

[maSu]

i didnt kill any nm dragons before 800+ items

 

But the devs confirmed a fix item value which must be reached? i found some statements about the drop chance (15%, 7,5%, 3,75%, ...) but nothing official about this item threshold.

[Silversmurf]

I'm not trying to find a post from last year. Devs didn't make announcements, especially on the forum. (Pfft Twitter)

Most info was mainly answered in threads strewn all over the place. Luke was great at answering what he could.

800 item score to qualify for Hakkon chance
10000 item score is the top loot bucket

Believe me or don't. Sooner or later you might want to start trusting the guys trying to answer your questions/help you.

That said. There are veterans who believe the item score is broken (or certainly the top bracket loot table too wide). Proto made a new account and got Hakkon's fairly quickly.

[Silversmurf]

http://forum.bioware...y-chests/page-2

Post #42 by Luke

Can't find the other post about 800 item score. Back to grinding ! See ya

[BrumBrum]

2nd dagger is fine and one of the requirements.

You 100% sure 2daggers is required? Got my 2nd dagger from one of those eventchests and havent seen a hakkon since then. Only missing the 1hander.
Trashed the weakest of the two last weekend.
2 Dragons later i get the fükin 1h-sword.
Now i "only" need a boogers blade... and another smelly hokker dagger?
#FML