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[Furisco]

I was thinking about updating the thread with the supposed Mass Relay. Should i?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

I was thinking about updating the thread with the supposed Mass Relay. Should i?

No. It was already debunked.

 

This isnt legit. After it was "leaked" on reddit, Shinobi said "this is fake" and people quickly figured out that it was a very early design concept for a relay from ME1 from like 2005 or something like that.

[Kabooooom]

Hmm, I was going to link to the reddit thread explaining how it was debunked, but apparently the mods took it down because it was confirmed to not be a legit leak.

[Capone666]

 

 

No. It was already debunked.

 

It was from a cached version of a site of a developers reel, showcasing some of his work on Mass Effect Andromeda in 2013.

I would say naw naw! More proof before you throw it out the airlock. 

[Arcian]

Obviously, lol. In another thread here I pointed out that to get back to Rannoch from Earth, the Quarians would actually have to travel a curved trajectory to avoid 10-15,000 Ly around the galactic core. With this course, it would take them nearly 40 years to reach Rannoch from Earth. Give or take a little.

And Andromeda is twice as big as the MW.

There's actually research that suggests the MW and Andromeda are about the same size, which would make a lot of sense since they have about the same mass as well.

[AlanC9]

So wanting Mass Effect to be like Mass Effect is silly? 
What same threats? I already said the Reapers wouldn't be involved directly, just their tech.

So the Relays are there, but the Reapers and the Crucible wave effects aren't because.... reasons?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So the Relays are there, but the Reapers and the Crucible wave effects aren't because.... reasons?

The Reapers aren't there because it is not time to harvest Andromeda(or because by the time we get there they have been dealt with). 

The Crucible wave effects aren't there because they don't have the power to reach Andromeda or each galaxy's Mass Relay Array is a separate system. 

[Kabooooom]

There's actually research that suggests the MW and Andromeda are about the same size, which would make a lot of sense since they have about the same mass as well.

Andromeda is 220,000 light years in diameter. That's twice the size of the Milky Way. It isnt really debatable, since it is a basic measurement. The only way there would be ambiguity in the compared galactic sizes would be if there was ambiguity in the MWs size, since we are measuring it from within. But a 110-120 kly estimate is pretty standard.

[Capone666]

I went into the cache of the same site and found it myself, anyone can do it. It was posted in at least March of 2013. Also, this is from the SAME guy who unintentionally released the big thing yesterday. 

Same site, same guy, same time frame. 

Looking at his resume, he never worked on Mass Effect the trilogy. 

 

Try again brother?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

There's actually research that suggests the MW and Andromeda are about the same size, which would make a lot of sense since they have about the same mass as well.

No they aren't. Andromeda is estimated to be around 1,500,000,000,000 solar masses while the Milky Way is estimated to be around 850,000,000,000 solar masses. That means that Andromeda is about 1.7647 times as massive as the Milky Way. 

[Biotic Apostate]

Andromeda is 220,000 light years in diameter. That's twice the size of the Milky Way. It isnt really debatable, since it is a basic measurement. The only way there would be ambiguity in the compared galactic sizes would be if there was ambiguity in the MWs size, since we are measuring it from within. But a 110-120 kly estimate is pretty standard.

 

No they aren't. Andromeda is estimated to be around 1,500,000,000,000 solar masses while the Milky Way is estimated to be around 850,000,000,000 solar masses. That means that Andromeda is about 1.7647 times as massive as the Milky Way. 

I'm linking it the second time this week...

http://www.space.com...an-thought.html

"This brings the Milky Way's size up to that of Andromeda. The Milky Way's small radius in comparison to Andromeda's larger radius has always puzzled astronomers, because the two galaxies have roughly the same mass."

 

Observing the galaxy that we're in is complicated, so the size of the MW keeps getting revised. According to new research (from 2015), they are roughly the same size in both mass and diameter, the MW is just rippled.

[AlanC9]

The Reapers aren't there because it is not time to harvest Andromeda(or because by the time we get there they have been dealt with). 
The Crucible wave effects aren't there because they don't have the power to reach Andromeda or each galaxy's Mass Relay Array is a separate system.

I get that you want the relays, but this is awfully lame.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I get that you want the relays, but this is awfully lame.

I disagree. It gets rid of multiple issues that have been brought up over the years. 

Plus the entire concept of going to Andromeda first is lame. There are other galaxies and dwarf galaxies that would make exponentially more sense to go to, but no let's go to Andromeda because it's more marketable. 

[Kabooooom]

I'm linking it the second time this week...
http://www.space.com...an-thought.html
"This brings the Milky Way's size up to that of Andromeda. The Milky Way's small radius in comparison to Andromeda's larger radius has always puzzled astronomers, because the two galaxies have roughly the same mass."

Observing the galaxy that we're in is complicated, so the size of the MW keeps getting revised. According to new research (from 2015), they are roughly the same size in both mass and diameter, the MW is just rippled.

Not a huge fan of pop science articles, link the actual study next time (there's a link in the article, and I read the abstract at least). I dont see how adjusting the MWs diameter to 160 kly makes it "about the same size" as Andromeda's 220 kly. That's still a difference of 80,000 light years.

[Kabooooom]

Make that 60,000...i can't basic math today, apparently. Or edit my prior post.

[Malanek]

Back on the gameplay video, looks kind of interesting without being particularly revealing. We knew we were getting jetpacks, interesting to see an early version. The range of the jetpack was quite small, they will probably have been playing around with that quite a bit over the last couple of years, and could now be quite different, but it still gives the best indication that we have seen so far. The Krogan pollen thing which may or may not be in the game was a bit unusual, reminded me a bit of the pheromone sack in HL2 which Gordon could use to control ant lions. Kind of funny to see a Krogan use a subtle form of attack. The rest of it was just an early demonstration of various effects in frostbite engine. Quit cool given no other information for a long time.

[Silvos]

So wanting Mass Effect to be like Mass Effect is silly? 
What same threats? I already said the Reapers wouldn't be involved directly, just their tech.

The relay design is not Mass Effect. The Reapers are not Mass Effect. And if the Reapers have been reaping the Andromeda as well for all this time then the Andromeda galaxy had the same threat. You want the Andromeda galaxy to be just like the Milky Way galaxy.

The Reapers aren't there because it is not time to harvest Andromeda(or because by the time we get there they have been dealt with).
The Crucible wave effects aren't there because they don't have the power to reach Andromeda or each galaxy's Mass Relay Array is a separate system.

How is that somehow less silly or contrived than just going to the Andromeda galaxy and finding something new?

I disagree. It gets rid of multiple issues that have been brought up over the years.
Plus the entire concept of going to Andromeda first is lame. There are other galaxies and dwarf galaxies that would make exponentially more sense to go to, but no let's go to Andromeda because it's more marketable.

You assume you know why and how we get to Andromeda. You don't. You've decided that you want the series to stay in the Milky Way so it will be the same as it ever was, so you're going to complain about anything and everything Andromeda/different.

Thoughts?

https://www.youtube....h?v=OMKKTnbEhl4

Get a hobby.

[straykat]

The Reapers are not Mass Effect.

 

Oh, if that wasn't true, everything would have been 10x better.

 

I could have just been a dirty cop/porn star, who sabotaged intergalactic politics or something. And beat up female reporters.

[DextroDNA]

I see people talking bout Mass Relays.

 

I want Mass Relays back. I feel like they're a staple of the MEU, though I don't see how it would fit with the lore if they were in Andromeda. I guess we'll just have to wait until we go back to the Milky Way to use the old space-slingshots again.

[Biotic Apostate]

Not a huge fan of pop science articles, link the actual study next time (there's a link in the article, and I read the abstract at least). I dont see how adjusting the MWs diameter to 160 kly makes it "about the same size" as Andromeda's 220 kly. That's still a difference of 60,000 light years.

The article is sourced and the language much easier to follow than an abstract or the full paper, so I don't understand your issue with it. People are far more likely to read through an article than a dry abstract, so I'll link what I find appropriate on a gaming forum. The point is I've seen people make claims in this forum that MW is twice as big as Andromeda, or that the mass of Andromeda is twice as big. If people want to use that as an argument, they should provide a source, not just guess.

[N7M]

"Meteorite impact for lunar surface" looks great for early development. It's something along the lines of the result of a round from a weapon that would be neat mounted on the Mako or from a description in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

 

It looks like BioWare had the idea for a blonde companion long before the recent threads. Prescient.

[Kabooooom]

The article is sourced and the language much easier to follow than an abstract or the full paper, so I don't understand your issue with it. People are far more likely to read through an article than a dry abstract, so I'll link what I find appropriate on a gaming forum. The point is I've seen people make claims in this forum that MW is twice as big as Andromeda, or that the mass of Andromeda is twice as big. If people want to use that as an argument, they should provide a source, not just guess.

The size of Andromeda is well known and pretty much irrefutable. The size of the MW is estimated, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that 160 kly is nowhere near the size that Andromeda is.

[potentialfood]

needed to hear some sound with that jet pack: 

 

[Capone666]

needed to hear some sound with that jet pack: 

 

 

Did you do this or did you find this somewhere?

[potentialfood]

Did you do this or did you find this somewhere?

 

fan made. not real