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That aspect of the healthcare industry is not "medicine." I don't know what you mean by "Cancer has not improved" because treatment and survival rates most certainly have improved, at least in the USA.


It is though. Tech must not only be theoretically possible, but confirmed and deliverable as well.

The novel breakthroughs you see in the news are often shut down before they are able to be released.

If the system can't deliver medicine efficiently I think medicine in general is screwed.

Smartphone and gps are both confirmed and widely deliverable.

Cancer survival hasn't significantly improved unfortunately. For a select few types it has, like breast cancer, but the majority hasn't.

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OK the entire healthcare industry for one relies on fax machines and an incredibly chaotic, backwards system of disconnected offices, NO user-friendliness or effiency AT ALL
Cancer hasn't really improved in decades, anything serious like liver disease relies on crude transplants which then rely on immunosuppressive drugs which have horrible side effects, including cancer.

We have google docs and cloud computing. Tell me, would you imagine such a corrupt and backwards system could exist at a time when we have Google Docs?

The entire game Civilization V is predicated on the fact different technologies progress at different rates, and although they progress together to the extent key breakthroughs in each field unlock other trees, doesn't mean all techs progress seamlessly side by side.

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I don't even...

 

Please tell me this is a joke, that you're not seriously basing your assertions on a gameplay mechanic? If you're aren't trolling, I'm going to go in that corner, there, and bemoan about today's youth and start feeling old and wise...



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I can't really see them doing such wide gameplay variation for something like armour choice, especially since ME1 didn't do anything like that. DAI's environmental interaction had to do with what class you picked. 
 
*If* armour categories were brought back (and I don't think they will be, even though I want that), I think they'd probably do something like affect ability cooldowns or possibly stuff like weapon stability. 
 
More like, we'll just get a default under-armour and then a whole bunch of customisable parts to put on top. It would tie into the crafting and blueprints systems that we've seen described in the leaked marketing surveys. I hope that aesthetically we can make something closer to ME1's armour (and not the horrific bulky ME2/ME3 N7 gear) but it's hard to tell at this point.
 
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Sadly, I can't really either. Something tells me armor customization will be mostly cosmetic

#704
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I don't even...

Please tell me this is a joke, that you're not seriously basing your assertions on a gameplay mechanic? If you're aren't trolling, I'm going to go in that corner, there, and bemoan about today's youth and start feeling old and wise...

No, I'm pointing out that my assertions are so common sense, that they make games about it.

If you're old and wise, you'd know it's just common sense that the world isn't 1950's Jetsons. Everything doesn't progress magically in sync.

You also should've been to a doctor, and seen how backwards healthcare is.

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My god I am pissed off now
Thanks.

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My god I am pissed off now
Thanks.

Don't be.



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Don't be.


I don't know how I'm going to calm down.

Look at hot Solas pics maybe.
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As Nietzsche would say: 'Increase in wisdom can be measured accurately by the corresponding decrease in anger'
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As Nietzsche would say: 'Increase in wisdom can be measured accurately by the corresponding decrease in anger'


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Just hope the netcode for MP will be as strong as Pokken's.



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It is though. Tech must not only be theoretically possible, but confirmed and deliverable as well.

The novel breakthroughs you see in the news are often shut down before they are able to be released.

If the system can't deliver medicine efficiently I think medicine in general is screwed.

Smartphone and gps are both confirmed and widely deliverable.

Cancer survival hasn't significantly improved unfortunately. For a select few types it has, like breast cancer, but the majority hasn't.

 

That's ridiculous. Much like your first example was the industry, not the medicine, the breakthroughs being shut down is bureaucracy and government, not medicine. So you're complaints are with the system but not with medicine itself. It's like saying if someone invented a really awesome TV but there was a problem getting it to the store shelves that means TVs haven't advanced. You can make the argument that it doesn't have any value if people can't get it, but that is a separate argument. Your complaints about medicine have nothing to do with the actual advancement of actual medicine or treatment.

 

Your last statement is just flat out incorrect.


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Why not set it up like a backpack? And when you want to put your armor on, simply activate it from your omni-tool for the armor to assemble from the pack. Easier than putting them on manually.

Isn't that still Iron Man?



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Isn't that still Iron Man?

Not exactly like the Iron Man suit but the idea of the assembly on the armor is pretty sweet, instead of putting them on manually just activate the pack and let the armor do all the work.
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I don't even...

 

Please tell me this is a joke, that you're not seriously basing your assertions on a gameplay mechanic? If you're aren't trolling, I'm going to go in that corner, there, and bemoan about today's youth and start feeling old and wise...

What is so hard to accept that not all areas of technology progress to the same extents and at the same rates? Breakthroughs can help boost other areas, but ultimately, it will be up to the economy and government to decide what areas are mostly advanced. Just look at military. Governments spend ludicrous amounts of money on their military. We constantly have better and faster ways of killing each other, but we still have Malaria and HIV/AIDS. People will prioritise certain sectors of industry and therefore technology as well. Sometimes, even Science is affected, if governments care for short term applied Science rather than basic Science. We know how to split the atom, but we do not know why we are able to understand the universe. So it goes without saying that technology is not uniform across all industries and scientific areas.



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Not exactly like the Iron Man suit but the idea of the assembly on the armor is pretty sweet, instead of putting them on manually just activate the pack and let the armor do all the work.

I guess that would be more energy intensive tho. But I could imagine a sort of exoskeleton backpack, where you put that on top of your initial armour, sort of like an exosuit or powerarmour.


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What is so hard to accept that not all areas of technology progress to the same extents and at the same rates? Breakthroughs can help boost other areas, but ultimately, it will be up to the economy and government to decide what areas are mostly advanced. Just look at military. Governments spend ludicrous amounts of money on their military. We constantly have better and faster ways of killing each other, but we still have Malaria and HIV/AIDS. People will prioritise certain sectors of industry and therefore technology as well. Sometimes, even Science is affected, if governments care for short term applied Science rather than basic Science. We know how to split the atom, but we do not know why we are able to understand the universe. So it goes without saying that technology is not uniform across all industries and scientific areas.

I probably shouldn't answer this while semi-drunk, but oh well... Saying that all areas of technology don't progress at the same rate (which is somewhat debatable) is different than asserting that huge domains of science such as medecine or material sciences have not progressed. This is flat out wrong. Those faster and better ways to kill each other use new materials. There are researches in better bullet-proof materials. My brother's military equipment is way lighter than my father's was, again thanks to the introduction of new materials, and I live in a country where military expenses have constantly decreased, while pharmacology is one of our most powerful industry.

 

HIV is still there, sure, but when it broke out, more than 20 years ago, it was a sure death sentence. Nowadays, there are treatments that allow infected people to keep on living. It's not ideal, but they keep on researching to finally cure it, which is complicated with the fact it has mutated. Last year in the city I live in, there were testing of a HIV vaccine on human beings. Now young women can benefit from vaccine against cancer of the uterus. It's available to all young women in my country. Again, the argument that because medecine hasn't yet cured everything, it means it hasn't progressed isn't a valid argument. At all. It's like saying informatic hasn't found a way to allow me to telepathically communicate with other people, therefore it hasn't progressed. It's silly.

 

I have never said technology was uniform across all industries and scientific areas. How did you ever come up with that? What I have said is that progress in one scientific area enables another to progress as well, which is quite evident.

 

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#717
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Why not set it up like a backpack? And when you want to put your armor on, simply activate it from your omni-tool for the armor to assemble from the pack. Easier than putting them on manually.

Not exactly like the Iron Man suit but the idea of the assembly on the armor is pretty sweet, instead of putting them on manually just activate the pack and let the armor do all the work.

That has exponentially more cons than pros so no sane military, especially ones that operate in space and multiple planets, would create them. 



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That has exponentially more cons than pros so no sane military, especially ones that operate in space and multiple planets, would create them.

Come on. You think the military will say no into that kind of technology for combat armor? Of course not! It's too good to pass up to say no.

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Come on. You think the military will say no into that kind of technology for combat armor? Of course not! It's too good to pass up to say no.

Yes I do. The armor system you are proposing is a terrible idea and will hurt more than help, so any wise military would refuse using it.



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Yes I do. The armor system you are proposing is a terrible idea and will hurt more than help, so any wise military would refuse using it.

Ok do you pass up lightweight armor with high-grade alloy capable of withstanding punishment from enemy fire, explosions from grenades and antimaterial weaponry, and offers better protection from storms? If the military sees an opportunity that benefits them they will take that opportunity, it's like me saying no to a supersoldier program of biotechnology especially it proves positive results without side effects.

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Ok do you pass up lightweight armor with high-grade alloy capable of withstanding punishment from enemy fire, explosions from grenades and antimaterial weaponry, and offers better protection from storms? If the military sees an opportunity that benefits them they will take that opportunity, it's like me saying no to a supersoldier program of biotechnology especially it proves positive results without side effects.

Except your idea of armor that folds out of a backpack does not offer that. At least not as effectively as armor you put on before you deploy, therefore your armor is the inferior system. 

 

For example, the folding armor of yours is more likely to hurt than help, because the slightest movement from the person as the armor deploys results in them getting stuck and/or cut in the joints or seals. And yes, in a combat situation there will be at least slight movements. Meanwhile putting armor on manually avoids that problem since you can take your time and make sure each piece fits without hurting the wearer.



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Except your idea of armor that folds out of a backpack does not offer that. At least not as effectively as armor you put on before you deploy, therefore your armor is the inferior system.

For example, the folding armor of yours is more likely to hurt than help, because the slightest movement from the person as the armor deploys results in them getting stuck and/or cut in the joints or seals. And yes, in a combat situation there will be at least slight movements. Meanwhile putting armor on manually avoids that problem since you can take your time and make sure each piece fits without hurting the wearer.

*sigh* That's why they have clothing that provides comfort when wearing armor and keeps them from getting cuts and bruises, and just make it optional to have that type of tech so you won't feel like you have to have it with you.

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*sigh* That's why they have clothing that provides comfort when wearing armor and keeps them from getting cuts and bruises, and just make it optional to have that type of tech so you won't feel like you have to have it with you.

The armor is still going to want to seal itself, which even with clothes will just crush and tear them like it would your flesh and bones. Or it stops and your armor isn't fully sealed, leaving weak spots. There is a reason almost all science fictions have the person get into a contraption for the armor to be assembled around them or have it just open up so they can get out but keep the shape that is known to be safe for the wearer. They don't have it fold up into a backpack. 



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Ok do you pass up lightweight armor with high-grade alloy capable of withstanding punishment from enemy fire, explosions from grenades and antimaterial weaponry, and offers better protection from storms? If the military sees an opportunity that benefits them they will take that opportunity, it's like me saying no to a supersoldier program of biotechnology especially it proves positive results without side effects.


The US military doesn't use the best body armor because they turned it down due to costs. Just because something is cool doesn't mean it makes the most sense.

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The US military doesn't use the best body armor because they turned it down due to costs. Just because something is cool doesn't mean it makes the most sense.

You just hatin' cause I brought it up first.