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[Vanguard Alpha]

Upgradre the ship's weapons, shields, armour, thats bloody obvious!
Upgrade most your teams weapons, armour, prototypes, unlock upgrades etc...

Send Tali as your tech
Use Miranda, with YEARS of experience to lead your 2nd team forward leader
Use Sama or her replacement as your biotic ****
Use Jacob with his YEARS of experience to escort your crew back to safety
Then, have the rest hold the line at the end

I did this and had ZERO casulties! It ain't rocket science!

lol at everyone sending non techs to do tech jobs and using 'troops' to lead.

[nphyx]

Sent Legion in the Vent

Garrus second group leader

sent Jacob Back to the ship

Jack as the Biotic

Miranda second group leader

Final boss Miranda/Grunt

everyone lived

[aimlessgun]

Hrm so it seems that sending anyone back to the ship saves Mordin.

[Alraiis]

This is interesting because when I went through the final thing it didn't matter who I sent through the vents they always died, including Tali. I'm wondering if it has to do with how you build your tech squadmates, like choosing power over health boosts. That was the only squadmate I lost, and I'm really bummed about it.

This has to do with your first fire team leader. If they're not right for the job, they'll still live, but your techie will die.

[JudgeQwerty]

Hokochu wrote...

So I just finished my first playthrough and am confused about 2 out of the 3 of my squadmate deaths.
1. Jacob died when I sent him through the vent. Should have known he was bad at tech... oops
2. Zaeed died when I made him lead team 2 in the second part... don't have a clue why
3. Moridin was shown randomly dead when leaving...?

I did all the loyalty quests and got all but the extra fuel and plastic surgery upgrades so... I guess don't send Zaeed to lead the group? And take Moridin with you at the end or else he dies? Help!

Jacob is not techy enough. Choose someone like Legion or tali, NOT Mordin who is a doctor and biologist, not an engineer.

Zaeed is not leadership material. Jacob, Miranda, and garrus are so far the only ones I've found who have the experience for it.

Mordin, not quite sure... was he loyal and did you use him for anything?

[MagicianCamille]

I don't think the formula is as complicated as some people are making it out to be. Assuming everyone is loyal and you've gotten the ship upgrades that affect combat, all you really need to do is select appropriate people for the tasks. I don't think who's in your squad really matters either. So far I've noticed the following:

Tech Expert: Legion or Tali both work here. HOWEVER, even if they are loyal they will still die if you don't choose a solid leader for the first team, those being...

First Strike Team: Garrus, Miranda, and Jacob all seem to be fine choices. I used Samara and lost my tech expert. XD

Biotic: Samara worked for me. Others have said Jack and Jacob have worked I believe. Key point being a LOYAL BIOTIC. I don't think Thane or Miranda work though, someone would have to confirm/deny that.

Second Strike team: Once again, Garrus, Miranda, and possibly Jacob. I used Jacob and he got shot in the stomach, but brushed it off.

Escort: I don't think this matters, as long as you choose SOMEONE. If you let your crew go back alone they will die. Some people have said Garrus/Grunt work, I personally used Mordin. I don't think it matters.

I'd attribute the random Mordin deaths to the mission simply going badly, I.E crew death, weak ship, and/or squad deaths.

This has actually been quite fun to test out and see other people's accounts. =P The OP really should have given us more info though for this particular dilemma.

Modifié par MagicianCamille, 01 février 2010 - 08:30 .

[BLACKOUT228]

I had everyone survive, including the crew, and this is how I did it.



I made sure I had done everything else before getting the Reaper IFF, everyone loyal and everything upgraded. Then I went onto the Reaper, got the IFF and Legion. Then did Legion's loyalty quest, had nothing else to do so activated the IFF getting the crew kidnapped.

Went in right away.



Used Legion as my tech expert, and Miranda as first team leader.

Used Samara as Biotic, and Miranda again as team leader.

Had Zaeed escort the team back to the ship.

And the entire time, I used Garrus and Tali as my squadmates.



Not a single person dead, even the entire crew survived.

[CanadAvenger]

Yes, i believe that is proof that you need to move your ass through the Omega 4 relay to save your entire crew.

[Daeion]

Vanguard Alpha wrote...

lol at everyone sending non techs to do tech jobs and using 'troops' to lead.

When they said someone had to go crawling through a small duct I thought it was pretty obvious that it should be Than since when you first meet him he drops out of a freaking vent.

[JamieCOTC]

On Mordin's death, I'm not sure, but I played the end three times in one game for the curiosity. First time in final battle w/ Reaper, I had grunt and Jack at my side. Everyone lived. The second time, I had Garrus and Miranda. Mordin died. Repeated the final battle a third time w/ original team of Grunt and Jack. Again, everyone lived. So, it's not random. There is a formula, but not sure what it is.



Had Legion in tunnel, Jacob to escort crew, Miranda lead both first and second teams. Jack had the barrier.

[Sharn01]

This post again.

I am having a hard time believing people have trouble figuring out who to send on mission's. A death or two from a slightly off choice I can see but some of this is just rediculous.

Zaeed as leader, really, the guy who goes on missions with other mercenaries and most of the time is the only one who survives and then talks about all the extra loot he gets from every one else being dead is the guy you want to lead your other team? That guy? Are you sure? Are you really ****ing sure? Ok, go for it.

The game practicly flat out tells you who to put in what position before you do it, there are even others who can get the job done that make perfect sense.

[Hokochu]

Wow I posted this five days ago and figured it out the same night... but by all means continue talking about it

[GamerttBone]

All loyal but Jack
Legion as tech.
Miranda as 2nd team leader both times.
Samara as biotic (at that time my team was Garrus and Grunt)
All other times my team was Samara and Grunt.
Sent Jack to guard the crew
Only death was Jack, she died giving the crew time.

Not a big loss imo she was a real bish

Modifié par GamerttBone, 01 février 2010 - 09:02 .

[pelhikano]

OK, I just retried it and now Zaeed survived as well.



LEGION in tunnel

Jacob leads first team

Samara shields

Tali leads the crew back

Kept Mordin and Miranda (but at the end Garrus) with me

[Illuminatus V]

All loyal.
Legion as tech.
Garrus Leader 2nd team
Jack as biotic
Garrus Leader 2nd team
Mordin to guard crew
My Shepard team: Grunt and Samara
Myself: Vanguard with fullblown Shockwave and Charge

All alive!

Modifié par Illuminatus V, 01 février 2010 - 09:11 .

[SSGv2]

For me

Tali went in the vent, Miranda took the second team and Grunt took the crew back. And Garrus and Mordin came with me. Oh and Samara did the whole biotic shield thing. Full loyalty, no one died

[Vanguard Alpha]

Daeion wrote...

Vanguard Alpha wrote...

lol at everyone sending non techs to do tech jobs and using 'troops' to lead.

When they said someone had to go crawling through a small duct I thought it was pretty obvious that it should be Than since when you first meet him he drops out of a freaking vent.

They specifically say it needs to be a tech expert, so how do you associate tech expert with an assain that crawls thro ducts?

[Bluemanrule]

I was 100% paragon with all members loyal but lost Tali (even got her loyal). She went through the ducts and was shot closing the door. I lost Kelly to "The Man". Anyway, not sure why Tali didn't come back.

Modifié par bluemanrule, 01 février 2010 - 09:28 .

[Jimmy Fury]

MagicianCamille wrote...

Biotic: Samara worked for me. Others have said Jack and Jacob have worked I believe. Key point being a LOYAL BIOTIC. I don't think Thane or Miranda work though, someone would have to confirm/deny that.

Jacob is a no on Biotic bubble. He falters at the end and someone gets taken by the swarm. Stick with Samara and upgraded Jack.
I read on one of the other 3345748 threads that Miranda might work. Honestly though, seems pointless to risk it. She's much more valuable as a team leader.

[Jimmy Fury]

Vanguard Alpha wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Vanguard Alpha wrote...

lol at everyone sending non techs to do tech jobs and using 'troops' to lead.

When they said someone had to go crawling through a small duct I thought it was pretty obvious that it should be Than since when you first meet him he drops out of a freaking vent.

They specifically say it needs to be a tech expert, so how do you associate tech expert with an assain that crawls thro ducts?

Yes yes you're so much smarter than everyone in the world. bravo.

People think differently. Logical choices focus on different sets of priorities for different people.

Some only quantified the tech expertise portion. Good for them.

Some took into account that the mission required tech ability better than Jacobs (which would include my space hamster...) and that it involved crawling through heating vents undetected. The latter is Thane's area of expertise.

And then some of us paid more attention to the fact that it was a suicidier suicide mission in the middle of a giant suicide mission. I simply figured that it didn't matter who I sent, they were dead meat anyway. I liked Legion and Tali too much to risk either of them and Thane was already dying.

[slinky317]

Here was my setup:



1. Tali in the vents.

2. Jacob leading the second team.

3. Samara doing the biotics.

4. Zaeed taking the crew back.

5. Jacob again running the second team.

6. Miranda and Garrus with me on the final mission.



At the end, I had Mordin inexplicably dead after the final cutscene. He was alive and well before I went to the Reaper, and dead after, so it had to happen while I was fighting the Reaper. It just completely frustrates me that I don't know why he died.



The only thing I can think of is that one of your last dialogue options is "Someone needs to hold this door" or "We need to hurry" - I think that if you select the "We need to hurry" option (which I did) you are put on a timer. If you take too long, people start dying, and I guess the first one to die is Mordin. That's the only thing I can possibly think of, unless there's random chance involved which would totally undo the "choices affect everything" mantra of the game.

[CanadAvenger]

slinky317 wrote...

Here was my setup:

1. Tali in the vents.
2. Jacob leading the second team.
3. Samara doing the biotics.
4. Zaeed taking the crew back.
5. Jacob again running the second team.
6. Miranda and Garrus with me on the final mission.

At the end, I had Mordin inexplicably dead after the final cutscene. He was alive and well before I went to the Reaper, and dead after, so it had to happen while I was fighting the Reaper. It just completely frustrates me that I don't know why he died.

The only thing I can think of is that one of your last dialogue options is "Someone needs to hold this door" or "We need to hurry" - I think that if you select the "We need to hurry" option (which I did) you are put on a timer. If you take too long, people start dying, and I guess the first one to die is Mordin. That's the only thing I can possibly think of, unless there's random chance involved which would totally undo the "choices affect everything" mantra of the game.

No, because on my first playthrough I selected the "Someone needs to hold this door" option and Mordin died.

[BLACKOUT228]

Elphabas_hat wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I had everyone survive, including the crew, and this is how I did it.

I made sure I had done everything else before getting the Reaper IFF, everyone loyal and everything upgraded. Then I went onto the Reaper, got the IFF and Legion. Then did Legion's loyalty quest, had nothing else to do so activated the IFF getting the crew kidnapped.
Went in right away.

Used Legion as my tech expert, and Miranda as first team leader.
Used Samara as Biotic, and Miranda again as team leader.
Had Zaeed escort the team back to the ship.
And the entire time, I used Garrus and Tali as my squadmates.

Not a single person dead, even the entire crew survived.

I bow to your awesomeness. *bows*

I had different people in different situations then you and they survived. Maybe it has more to do with how much of the game you complete before doing the IFF. Hmmm, you have given much to ponder...

Wasn't trying to show off my "awesomeness", Just saying how I did it. Kick me in the quads next time.

[pkmn]

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Yes yes you're so much smarter than everyone in the world. bravo.

People think differently. Logical choices focus on different sets of priorities for different people.

Some only quantified the tech expertise portion. Good for them.

Some took into account that the mission required tech ability better than Jacobs (which would include my space hamster...) and that it involved crawling through heating vents undetected. The latter is Thane's area of expertise.

And then some of us paid more attention to the fact that it was a suicidier suicide mission in the middle of a giant suicide mission. I simply figured that it didn't matter who I sent, they were dead meat anyway. I liked Legion and Tali too much to risk either of them and Thane was already dying.

This was exactly my thought process... including the suicide mission part. I did figure that if anybody could survive it would be Thane.  I don't really see how that was faulty logic... it didn't work out, but whatever.

I do feel I was cheated when Zaeed died when I had him lead the group... he should have been the obvious choice.