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[Rhidor]

Hey there!

 

Does anyone know if there's a physcal copy of the GOTY edition out there? Only saw them sold for PS4 and XBone on amazon, but the PC version was always digital-only.

[Fylimar]

Sadly, there is no physical copy of the GOTY Edition for PC, which I find a bit unfair, being a PC player myself.

[Rhidor]

Ah, too bad. I don't really get why they would leave the PC version out of a physical copy.

[GithCheater]

EA does not give a hoot about fairness.

[AlanC9]

Ah, too bad. I don't really get why they would leave the PC version out of a physical copy.

The most logical reason is that there just weren't enough physical PC version sales expected to justify having another SKU. A lot of PC gamers have moved to DLing everything.

A disc edition of the GotY would be something of an affectation anyway. If you're using discs because of poor bandwidth or DL caps, a GotY disc would still leave you screwed because the DLCs aren't on the disc for any platform. I forget how many gigs they add up to, but if you can DL the DLCs you can almost certainly DL the game.

[GithCheater]

Some ISP's charge for downloads.  For these people, it would be better to not pay for downloading the whole game (20+ GB).

[AlanC9]

I was thinking that someone who doesn't want to pay for a 20 gig DL for the main game probably should hold off on the GotY, since that needs 8 gigs just for the story DLCs and maybe a couple more for the other stuff.

[Rhidor]

I think the main game's a lot larger than just 20GB. The PS4 said something about 46GB?

 

Anyway, bad argument. If you can download like 8GB DLC doesn't necessarily mean you can as easily/quickly download DLC+full game.

 

I think the question would be why the DLC wasn't included on any physical disc. It was done with Origins, so what's so hard about it?

[GithCheater]

I think 46 GB is after installation.  I read somewhere that the compacted download version was 23 GB.

 

If the DLC is physically on the disk, people buying used console copies would not need to pay for the DLC ... Less $$$ for EA.

[AlanC9]

Anyway, bad argument. If you can download like 8GB DLC doesn't necessarily mean you can as easily/quickly download DLC+full game.

Can you walk me through it? Under what set of circumstances would a 20 GB download be a deal-breaker while an 8GB DL would not be?

I think the question would be why the DLC wasn't included on any physical disc. It was done with Origins, so what's so hard about it?

"Hard" isn't the right question. Of course it isn't hard. It's just less profitable to burn, QA, and ship another disc now since so many gamers have no problem DLing the stuff. That wasn't the case when Dragon Age came out. A lot of us were still on dial-up, even.

Really, I'll be surprised if PC game discs don't go away altogether pretty soon.

@GithCheater: good point about used discs. I forget that used copies of DAI are a thing on the console side.

[Rhidor]

Easy to walk you through it.

 

Did you know that 20GB is a lot more than 8GB and thus takes longer to download? Did you also know that if you combine 20GB and 8GB, you get 28GB, which is an even larger file and takes even longer to download? It makes a huge difference combined regarding time.

 

I think there are still a lot of people out there who prefer physical discs over DL-only, like me. I don't even get why it shouldn't be a problem for PC users, but console user definitely need a disc version - aren't they connected to the internet as well? 

[AlanC9]

That's a bit silly. The question I actually asked wasn't if 20 was greater than eight or ten. The question I asked was whether that difference is big enough to matter to any real player. Are there any players who would buy a game with a 10GB required download but wouldn't buy the same game with a 30 gig required download? That's what I'm having trouble visualizing. Are you thinking of someone who is routinely running up against a data cap?

Console users will probably still get discs for full games for a while. Retail outlets are still an important promotional channel for console games, but that hasn't been true for quite a few years on the PC side.

[GithCheater]

Real player?

[sim-ran]

I must admit, I hated the concept of this digital only malarky on principle and in practice. But digital content feels so normal now, and as I just got a PS4 not having to keep out any game boxes feels great!

And sad to say it but my treasured idea of keeping all the standalone hardware and software for the future is just unrealistic. It's pretty tough to get my original xbox running on a modern TV today, in 10 years time it will probably be completely unfeasible!

[AlanC9]

And sad to say it but my treasured idea of keeping all the standalone hardware and software for the future is just unrealistic. It's pretty tough to get my original xbox running on a modern TV today, in 10 years time it will probably be completely unfeasible!

What's the issue with old XBoxes?

[sim-ran]

Well besides the ye olde connections that you need to use adapters for, they just don't have the resolution for the massive TVs of today. They just look ridiculous.

In 10 years when we're rocking 4K (or more) on 70"+ TVs they'll just be weird blurry things.

I ended up paying money to buy Kotor on Android. It looks as good as it used to on my smartphone and I can play it on the go.

[Rhidor]

My problem is that 28GB of download take too long at the moment. It's not a matter of loading up the disc and finishing the installation in max. 30 minutes, it will most likely take the entire day to get it if I'm at home all day. 

 

For me it's just not practical to having to wait for hours on end to finally get and play a game. 

 

Additionally to that, I also like game cases. Might just be me, but collecting great games as trophies is something I enjoy.

[AlanC9]

Why would you need to be home, though?

[AlanC9]

Or conscious? I always do my big DLs while I'm asleep.

[GithCheater]

Or conscious? I always do my big DLs while I'm asleep.

Physical disk = Play now.

 

Download = Play tomorrow.

[sjsharp2011]

Easy to walk you through it.

 

Did you know that 20GB is a lot more than 8GB and thus takes longer to download? Did you also know that if you combine 20GB and 8GB, you get 28GB, which is an even larger file and takes even longer to download? It makes a huge difference combined regarding time.

 

I think there are still a lot of people out there who prefer physical discs over DL-only, like me. I don't even get why it shouldn't be a problem for PC users, but console user definitely need a disc version - aren't they connected to the internet as well? 

yeah I think it depends on your internet speed tbh. For me a complete installation of the ME trilogy takes the better part of a day and that's mostly because of the DLC. The games themselves go in pretty fast as they'er usually installed within 20 minutes half hour at most per game thanks to having them on disc. It's the DLC that holds everything up as that can take hours I don't mind it so much if it's not that important a game to me as I can just have it downloading in the background while I do something else. But certainly with the bigger games and ones I know I'm going to like and play more than once I'd always get on disc to minimise waiting around

[sjsharp2011]

I think the main game's a lot larger than just 20GB. The PS4 said something about 46GB?

 

Anyway, bad argument. If you can download like 8GB DLC doesn't necessarily mean you can as easily/quickly download DLC+full game.

 

I think the question would be why the DLC wasn't included on any physical disc. It was done with Origins, so what's so hard about it?

Yeah I think it is too DAI PC version has 4 discs in it's box or at least in mine

[AlanC9]

Physical disk = Play now.
 
Download = Play tomorrow.

Play now if you already have the physical disk, that is. If you have to go out and buy the thing, or wait for Amazon to send it, you're better off with the DL.

Though I see there is a real advantage for older games you own already but didn't have enough gigs to keep on your rig.

[GithCheater]

Really?

 

Many (most?) people have brick and mortor stores nearby and can buy and play a game within an hour.

 

Download takes at least half a day which means waiting until tomorrow.

[AlanC9]

I'd rather not spend that hour, myself. I've got better things to do with my life than shop. Though I could work it into my lunch hour, I guess; there is one store in the area that still stocks PC games. But in that case I still would have to wait until I got home, plus, what, 20 mins for the install? If I set up a DL that morning it'd be done anyway.

I guess it depends on at what exact minute you decide to buy a game. The only games I've impulse bought in years have been via Steam sales... which, by definition, I'm not going to find in a retail shop.