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[SnakeCode]

ME:A for sure. I'm not getting my hopes up that it will be a good game, because it seems BioWare only manage to make those by accident these days. In the ME trilogy there are 2.5 good games out of the three though. There is only one good DA game followed by two hilariously bad sequels. More chance of Andromeda being good than DA4.

[SofaJockey]

There are few enough RPG IP's, I'll be pleased to embrace each on in turn...

[straykat]

There are few enough RPG IP's, I'll be pleased to embrace each on in turn...

 

Not enough triple A ones at least.

[slimgrin]

Dragon Age's creative direction went off the rails way more than Mass Effect, so yeah, Mass Effect. But I hope they can implement better writing, c&c and no bloody streamlining. 

[frylock23]

Hmmm, that's a tough question.

 

Mass Effect is done. Andromeda is a new animal with an old brand on it.

 

The Dragon Age game is also a new animal with an old brand on it.

 

At this point, I feel like the ability of the Dragon Age team to pull off a new animal with an old brand is less of an unknown to me. Because I do have to be invested in a new game, cast, and story all over again, I have less of an emotional pull toward any one new Dragon Age game, but I have so far never failed to enjoy any of them on their own merits. They all have their points that have entertained.

 

Can the Mass Effect team hook me in for a new ride especially given how the last one ended? BIG question. I am curious (as you can see because I am here). But am I as enthused as I was for each new ME of the past? No. I'd say I'm about as interested right now as I am for a new Dragon Age game. And I'm not at the "shut up and take my money" stage.

[In Exile]

ME:A for sure. I'm not getting my hopes up that it will be a good game, because it seems BioWare only manage to make those by accident these days. In the ME trilogy there are 2.5 good games out of the three though. There is only one good DA game followed by two hilariously bad sequels. More chance of Andromeda being good than DA4.

 

It was the same those days, too. BG2, for example, was an accident in the making. And DA:O was a slapdash of cut features and broken designs (that started on the NWN engine as a prototype, and was going to be a LAN-based and/or NWN style MP game) they at some point had to actually release, which then was delayed for a simultaneous console release, and filled with fetch-quests. 

[straykat]

It was the same those days, too. BG2, for example, was an accident in the making. And DA:O was a slapdash of cut features and broken designs (that started on the NWN engine as a prototype, and was going to be a LAN-based and/or NWN style MP game) they at some point had to actually release, which then was delayed for a simultaneous console release, and filled with fetch-quests. 

 

I remember something like that. Although I thought they were an eyeing the mmo market at the time.

 

Whatever the case, DAO surprised the hell out of me.

[YouKnowMyName]

Short answer: MEA, because it's closer.

 

Long answer:

 

I'm not sure. I have more faith in the DA team for making a game which I personally feel is "deep and interesting", since it focuses on the world, and I find the execution of the DA games generally to be quite good. Not perfect, but still good.

 

With ME however, it's more difficult. I like ME as a concept more than DA, and I prefer the ME-universe. The feeling I get when I start up something from DA does not rival the feeling I get when I do the same for ME. I'm a lot more excited for ME stuff, really.

 

However, the problem is, ME2 was not what I hoped for. It waded off in an almost completely different direction than the first game, and while it was commercially successful, and popular, yes, I personally did not quite enjoy that direction.

 

ME2 was and is a good game, but it also felt too different from ME1, and thus too "distanced", as far as i'm concerned. ME3 tried to return a little more to the roots, and while it partly succeeded, ME3 had it's own issues. Thus, the execution of ME2 and ME3 to an degree, was not exactly what I was expecting, and I honestly felt disappointed with ME2 when I first played it, and partially disappointed with ME3 (the ending was the worst offender in ME3, of course).

 

With DA, I haven't felt disappointed like that. I have really enjoyed all the DA games (save for Awakening, if we're counting expansions), despite their flaws. To me, despite being standalone-games, the DA games feel more "coherent", while in ME, the plot of ME2 and ME3 goes too much into "WTF-territory" at times. Not saying DA never does that, but compared to ME... Well, I have to say, I prefer DA when it comes to this.

 

ME also became a bit too much focused on "action" and "explosions", while DA tried it's best to give different perspectives, and give conflicts and characters depth and meaning.

 

I really hope MEA will return a little more to how ME1 was, while at the same time keeping the good things from ME2 and ME3 (for they were absolutely not bad games!), and also have it's own strengths and merits.

 

All in all, I'm excited to see if MEA can impress me more than ME2 or ME3.

 

Both series are enjoyable though, and despite my disappointment, I like ME2 and ME3 for their own reasons as well!

[SKAR]

ME:A for sure. I'm not getting my hopes up that it will be a good game, because it seems BioWare only manage to make those by accident these days. In the ME trilogy there are 2.5 good games out of the three though. There is only one good DA game followed by two hilariously bad sequels. More chance of Andromeda being good than DA4.

You should probably get that grade up in English class. also why shouldn't your expectations be high for MEA? The first three were great! Oh wait I'm sorry, are we still pouting like little babies over the endings?

[SnakeCode]

You should probably get that grade up in English class. also why shouldn't your expectations be high for MEA? The first three were great! Oh wait I'm sorry, are we still pouting like little babies over the endings?

 

What a needlessly antagonistic post. Did I offend?

[slimgrin]

Short answer: MEA, because it's closer.

 

Long answer:

 

I'm not sure. I have more faith in the DA team for making a game which I personally feel is "deep and interesting", since it focuses on the world, and I find the execution of the DA games generally to be quite good. Not perfect, but still good.

 

With ME however, it's more difficult. I like ME as a concept more than DA, and I prefer the ME-universe. 

 

That's exactly how I feel. DA is deeper gameplay wise and has better roleplay. But ME has so much more potential and is a more original IP. DA has steadily gotten worse and farther from the original vision, while ME only bombed with ME3. 

[Commander Rpg]

Y'know I have to say, despite really looking forward to this game, I can't help but want Dragon Age 4 more.

 

And the thing is, it's not because I like the DA series better, I actually prefer Mass Effect.

 

But it's like, the Dragon Age series, each game is a different story, new main character, new cast. But with Mass Effect the first three games were all one big story with the same main and cast. So while this is a sequel, I can't help but feel like it's more a spin off type of thing. Y'know? And that kinda takes away from my hype for this game somewhat. It just doesn't feel like an upcoming sequel like DA4 would.

 

Anyone else feel this way at all or is it just me?

Wrong section, dear.

 

Pick either the Dragon Age sections or revive Off Topic by praying to the moon.

 

[In Exile]

That's exactly how I feel. DA is deeper gameplay wise and has better roleplay. But ME has so much more potential and is a more original IP. DA has steadily gotten worse and farther from the original vision, while ME only bombed with ME3. 

 

ME3 was a mixed bag, but if we ignore the arble-garble ending - which is really not something new to the setting, since the main plot of each game was very stupid - the same sort of quality vignettes were there (though ME2 was the height of that one). 

 

I'd also disagree that DA has departed from the original vision. If anything, they've gotten a bit closer to realizing it, even as they refuse to play to any of their strengths. Certainly they're closer to having something other than a generic brown and uninteresting D&D rip-off fantasy setting. 

[SKAR]

What a needlessly antagonistic post. Did I offend?

You're offending me now by being a d!ck. I wasn't attacking you. But it appears you thought otherwise. I was joking about the grammar. And please don't give me that annoying bull$#!t that the endings were crap. The trilogy was brilliant. We shouldn't let them be an anchor.

[TheN7Penguin]

Mass Effect: Andromeda for certain.

 

There are some games that I just don't feel to... connect with, somehow. I think the gameplay of Dragon Age somehow creates a barrier between me and the world/characters rather than allowing me to get enthralled with them. It's not that I don't enjoy playing the games, it's just that I feel nothing for them. Whereas I love Mass Effect and feel to have connected with the world/characters instantly.

[slimgrin]

ME3 was a mixed bag, but if we ignore the arble-garble ending - which is really not something new to the setting, since the main plot of each game was very stupid - the same sort of quality vignettes were there (though ME2 was the height of that one). 

 

I'd also disagree that DA has departed from the original vision. If anything, they've gotten a bit closer to realizing it, even as they refuse to play to any of their strengths. Certainly they're closer to having something other than a generic brown and uninteresting D&D rip-off fantasy setting. 

 

The main plot in ME1 was solid, I'd argue, and easily the best of the three. And if DA isn't playing to its strengths as you say, isn't that a departure from what made the original good? 

[SnakeCode]

You're offending me now by being a d!ck. I wasn't attacking you. But it appears you thought otherwise. I was joking about the grammar. And please don't give me that annoying bull$#!t that the endings were crap. The trilogy was brilliant. We shouldn't let them be an anchor.

 

I am? Why are you so angry bud? I haven't mentioned any endings.

[katamuro]

Mass Effect, it was THE game for me so while I do really like DA, there is simply not contest

[BatarianBob]

Makes sense. Inquisition ended on a cliffhanger. ME3 ended with a millenia long galactic dark age that seemed designed to prevent any future games in that setting.

If I wasn't 99% sure it would be an MMO, or some other form of multiplayer only game, I'd be more interested in their new IP. I'd like to be wrong. Historically, Bioware has done well introducing new franchises, they've just struggled with sequels.

[Laughing_Man]

You're offending me now by being a d!ck. I wasn't attacking you. But it appears you thought otherwise. I was joking about the grammar. And please don't give me that annoying bull$#!t that the endings were crap. The trilogy was brilliant. We shouldn't let them be an anchor.

 

 

You know what happens when you eat something nice and the last bite has something disgusting in it?...

 

Yeah...

[Sailears]

Short answer: MEA, because it's closer.

Long answer:

I'm not sure. I have more faith in the DA team for making a game which I personally feel is "deep and interesting", since it focuses on the world, and I find the execution of the DA games generally to be quite good. Not perfect, but still good.

With ME however, it's more difficult. I like ME as a concept more than DA, and I prefer the ME-universe. The feeling I get when I start up something from DA does not rival the feeling I get when I do the same for ME. I'm a lot more excited for ME stuff, really.

However, the problem is, ME2 was not what I hoped for. It waded off in an almost completely different direction than the first game, and while it was commercially successful, and popular, yes, I personally did not quite enjoy that direction.

ME2 was and is a good game, but it also felt too different from ME1, and thus too "distanced", as far as i'm concerned. ME3 tried to return a little more to the roots, and while it partly succeeded, ME3 had it's own issues. Thus, the execution of ME2 and ME3 to an degree, was not exactly what I was expecting, and I honestly felt disappointed with ME2 when I first played it, and partially disappointed with ME3 (the ending was the worst offender in ME3, of course).

With DA, I haven't felt disappointed like that. I have really enjoyed all the DA games (save for Awakening, if we're counting expansions), despite their flaws. To me, despite being standalone-games, the DA games feel more "coherent", while in ME, the plot of ME2 and ME3 goes too much into "WTF-territory" at times. Not saying DA never does that, but compared to ME... Well, I have to say, I prefer DA when it comes to this.

ME also became a bit too much focused on "action" and "explosions", while DA tried it's best to give different perspectives, and give conflicts and characters depth and meaning.

I really hope MEA will return a little more to how ME1 was, while at the same time keeping the good things from ME2 and ME3 (for they were absolutely not bad games!), and also have it's own strengths and merits.

All in all, I'm excited to see if MEA can impress me more than ME2 or ME3.

Both series are enjoyable though, and despite my disappointment, I like ME2 and ME3 for their own reasons as well!

I thoroughly agree with everything you said, especially the part about ME2 - I vividly remember the initial reaction from many players importing their ME1 characters as to the totally jarring transition and "WTF" style and delivery of ME2 (especially the BS clean slate opening for no reason - not being specific to avoid spoilers in this forum). There was quite a large negative reaction which seems now to have dissolved into the past with people heralding ME2 as the best game in the trilogy. But I can't forget that BS contrived plot to force a "cool" idea of a suicide squad so totally removed from the foundation built in ME1 it makes my head spin.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed ME2 as a standalone game, it was great fun. But it was an utterly BS and atrocious sequel and set ME3 up with an impossible task of closing the trilogy satisfactorily in one game.

I hope MEA is a return to roots of ME1, just with the better polish and gameplay of ME3.

[goofyomnivore]

I'm looking forward to a Mass Effect that isn't dominated by Shepard and the Reapers. Dragon Age 4 is a long ways away with little to no details known about it.

[CrimsonN7]

That is some mighty fine Engrish, OP.

Srsly love your posts

Oh ME:A, didn't even have to ponder this question.

[Donk]

You're offending me now by being a d!ck. I wasn't attacking you. But it appears you thought otherwise. I was joking about the grammar. And please don't give me that annoying bull$#!t that the endings were crap. The trilogy was brilliant. We shouldn't let them be an anchor.

 

Please, fill this out.

 

[Bowlcuts]

You're offending me now by being a d!ck. I wasn't attacking you. But it appears you thought otherwise. I was joking about the grammar. And please don't give me that annoying bull$#!t that the endings were crap. The trilogy was brilliant. We shouldn't let them be an anchor.

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