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[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Wrong thread then there's no need to discuss character in what you're asking for. Because brothel dwellers aren't characters, they're just vendors. Of ******.

Just saying.

[Gileadan]

I'm probably going to be a tiny minority with this, but I would like a rather subdued (not sure if that's the right word) with a professional military woman, where mutual respect and the occasional friction turn into attraction.

At no point would either character break the "no fraternisation" rule. Romance would be expressed by a brush against her arm here or slightly longer than necessary eye contact there.

Outright romance scenes would be subtle too, like you getting your leg hurt and she helping you to limp back to safety, walking just a little slower than the injury permits.

Or you choosing to send her on a more harmless mission when she could have taken the more dangerous one. She does it, but afterwards requests a debriefing where she questions your professionalism and you can tell you're unwilling to risk the most important...uh, asset of the team. You argue in circles for a bit, both realizing it's just an excuse to spend time with each other.

At the end of the story/trilogy, assuming you're both still alive, you can quit your service to make the no fraternisation rule go poof.

Not everyone's cup of tea, I know.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm probably going to be a tiny minority with this, but I would like a rather subdued (not sure if that's the right word) with a professional military woman, where mutual respect and the occasional friction turn into attraction.

At no point would either character break the "no fraternisation" rule. Romance would be expressed by a brush against her arm here or slightly longer than necessary eye contact there.

Outright romance scenes would be subtle too, like you getting your leg hurt and she helping you to limp back to safety, walking just a little slower than the injury permits.

Or you choosing to send her on a more harmless mission when she could have taken the more dangerous one. She does it, but afterwards requests a debriefing where she questions your professionalism and you can tell you're unwilling to risk the most important...uh, asset of the team. You argue in circles for a bit, both realizing it's just an excuse to spend time with each other.

At the end of the story/trilogy, assuming you're both still alive, you can quit your service to make the no fraternisation rule go poof.

Not everyone's cup of tea, I know.

I would love this. It reminds me a lot of the relationship between Roy Mustang and Riza Hawkeye in the Fullmetal Alchemist franchise, and that is one of my favorite romance stories of all time. 

[SnakeCode]

I'm probably going to be a tiny minority with this, but I would like a rather subdued (not sure if that's the right word) with a professional military woman, where mutual respect and the occasional friction turn into attraction.

At no point would either character break the "no fraternisation" rule. Romance would be expressed by a brush against her arm here or slightly longer than necessary eye contact there.

Outright romance scenes would be subtle too, like you getting your leg hurt and she helping you to limp back to safety, walking just a little slower than the injury permits.

Or you choosing to send her on a more harmless mission when she could have taken the more dangerous one. She does it, but afterwards requests a debriefing where she questions your professionalism and you can tell you're unwilling to risk the most important...uh, asset of the team. You argue in circles for a bit, both realizing it's just an excuse to spend time with each other.

At the end of the story/trilogy, assuming you're both still alive, you can quit your service to make the no fraternisation rule go poof.

Not everyone's cup of tea, I know.

 

I'd actually like that. One of my favourite "romance" scenes ever is in The Last Samurai. Where it basically turns every conventional aspect of a love scene on it's head. Instead of making out and removing their clothes, the character of Taka actually dresses Algren. In her dead husbands ceremonial armor no less, to prepare him for battle. It's a silent scene, and all of the emotion is conveyed through looks, subtle brushes against each other as she dresses him etc. There's no actual physical expressions of lust or sex, but it's definitely a love scene, and a great one at that.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Fast thread is fast.

 

I'm half-asian too yay

*runs back out*

*note I disagree that the south is cool. I was constantly bullied growing up in Texas and racists made my entire childhood a living hell for my family and I.

 

I am an Asian Indian man from Malaysia who was bullied when I grew up in Malaysia. I am short, 5'5" in height so you can imagine how short I was as a kid.

 

In response, I decided to take self defense classes. The next time the bullies came, I went in rage mode and beat the sh*t out of one of them. You would be really surprised at how unskilled and how useless actual bullies are at fighting. Most of them are all show and no go. The whole issue got really big at school, I was brought up to the disciplinary teacher and I was caned by the disciplinary teacher, but from the day forwards, people stopped bullying me. Heavy risk, but the prize...

 

Josie is wrong. Being nice doesn't always work. Sometimes, you need to fight and sometimes you need to learn how to be violent towards people. That's just how life is. Like it or not, we live in a society (both real and fiction) where might makes right. Sure, in real life, situation has improved and is improving but in certain situations, especially when it come to bullies, might does work.

 

If you are still in USA, I would highly recommend you take good self defense classes (Krav Maga or Jujitsu or Kyokushin or just plain old kickboxing), get stronger via some weightlifting (you don't have to be bulging with muscles but have some) and learn how to use a gun.

 

Personally, after going from conservative states to liberal, I've found that racism pretty much exists everywhere in the US. The difference is Southerners are more likely to express it to your face while liberals will say it behind your back. Pick your poison.

 

F*cking QFT !
 

Just saw this after reviewing the thread. If videogames are art, then how come so many people think they have a right to change how game developers want to make their art? No one felt the need to tell the Greeks to maybe sculpt and paint less naked dudes and make chicks actually look like chicks.

Because fee-fees, because authoritarianism, because censorship. Its like the Puritans, but reverse.

 

The Vatican PAID to have those orders. Publishers get to make changes on books because they do the publishing, and those authors don't want to deal with the hassle and expense of publishing themselves.

 

See a pattern?

 

Public opinion alone isn't what makes art change, it's cash and natural shift in culture. You can't force authentic change, it occurs all on its own. Forced change is almost always obvious and done solely for the sake of change, coming off as unauthentic and often doing more damage than good. See the big controversy with the Baldur's Gate remake.

Authoritarians love to use coercion, especially the coercive for of the social mob or the coercive force of the ruling class to force change instead of letting it organically happen over time because of their impatience.

 

 

We aren't paying devs in advance to make games with content we like. They are making content they want to make and think a target audience will enjoy, with the hope of selling as many units as possible.

 

Upon completion we decide whether to buy a game or not based on whether we will find the content enjoyable.

 

We don't demand what musicians sing about when they announce they're writing new music. Why do we get to demand what devs include in their games? What right do we have to tell them what content they are/aren't allowed to include in their games?

 

The voices of logical pragmatism speaks ! Here I thought people forgot how content creators like game developers functioned.

 

Yes of course, but as the Colonel pointed out, it's still dictated by money, we live in a capitalist society after all. It's why games/books/films etc have a target audience, because most people are smart enough to know you can't please everyone, and trying to do so generally ends in failure.

 

They will gear their content towards those that are most likely to buy that content. It's why romance novels are advertised with women in mind and action films are geared towards a male audience primarily. It's not because they don't want other types of people to buy their product, but they will try to maximize sails from the demographic that is most likely to purchase that product.

 

Hooray for the free market capitalism of creative fiction ! Choices, yo.
 

No one commissions games, gaming developers make what they think people will buy, and what they envision to hopefully be a game they can be proud of. If people want to see games as art, they need to realize the difference between commissioned work, where the actual commissioner is the sole individual that has say on the piece, and is the only one that can say how much artistic freedom that the artist can take, and non commissioned work, that is an expression of the artist, as well as a product.

 

This is celebrated in other forms of art, but when it comes to games, the artists are much less free to be allowed their creative freedom. Which is sad. The point is, if people want to start harping on about how gaming is art, maybe they should start acting like it.

 

Word. Video games can have artistic elements but it is not art.

 

 

Relevant Cassandra is relevant.

[Gileadan]

I'd actually like that. One of my favourite "romance" scenes ever is in The Last Samurai. Where it basically turns every conventional aspect of a love scene on it's head. Instead of making out and removing their clothes, the character of Taka actually dresses Algren. In her dead husbands ceremonial armor no less, to prepare him for battle. It's a silent scene, and all of the emotion is conveyed through looks, subtle brushes against each other as she dresses him etc. There's no actual physical expressions of lust or sex, but it's definitely a love scene, and a great one at that.

I certainly remember that scene. It's a thing of beauty.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

They'll keep making poorer quality rpgs... Regardless of if people complain about it or not. If you don't want rpgs to become filled with fetch quests and the like, then stop buying them. If you're addicted to those games, then perhaps you don't dislike fetch quests as much as you claim. That is what the developer will see regardless of what you say online. If this weren't the case, then games wouldn't keep following this pattern.

 

When they see public opinion is backed by cash, they'll listen. Basically, they're calling your bluff.

 

The one thing that blurs the line here of course is crowdfunded games, but even then it's someone saying "this is the game I want to make, if you like the sound of it please help to fund it's development." You have more sway than a regular paying customer, but it still isn't your game.

 

Money talks. Personal anecdotals don't. Truly, if people want to have video game where sexualities matter more than characters, then crowdfund one. But I think we all know that will never happen because deep down, people who advocate for that sort of thing know that it will not sell.

 

 

As long as they keep making characters like Cassandra and Morrigan, I'm happy. Meaning strong females that will follow their own interests regardless of what my character wants. Merrill was like that too even if she was ditsy. She was still strong willed, though while I do adore her for some reason, despite being the type of character I tend to avoid (the whole little girl in a grown woman's body thing), she's an anomaly for me. I think I just like outcasts, lol.

 

Anyway, yea, continue making female characters basically, that don't revolve around me. As for "types", I'm not honestly sure, the archetype doesn't really matter much for me. It's more easier to say which types I personally don't want, and the only type that I really don't want to see anymore is the extremely promiscuous ones, be they male or female. Isabella would have been a much better character to me if they toned down just how slooty she was... it was rather gross in my opinion, same for Iron Bull.

 

There's promiscuity and then there's just being obscene. She has an actual itch in kirkwall named after her. That's ridiculous in my opinion. Promiscuous characters are fine, I love the curse like a sailor, rough "tom boy" hard drinking hotties, but I think they went too far with Isabella.

 

Which is why romancing Isabela is a foolish idea. Cue Boromir :-

 

 

That is why you always go Merrill.No STDs and she is loyal and faithful.

 

The purpose of what I'm saying is this: Yes, you should voice your opinion. But some people get so worked up over their opinion and what they want that it becomes ridiculous. They get hostile, defensive, and start making assumptions about people that don't agree with their opinions or want what they want. Calling them dudebros and homophobes.

 

I express my opinion. I want games to have more diverse characters, yes, but I want them first and foremost to be written well, and I want the author to want to do this themselves, not because I want them to. I want this to happen naturally, so I refuse to demand it. And when the author and artist do these things, I reward them with my hard earned dollar. If they wonder why I am rewarding them with my particular purchase, they'll know why, because I will tell them online.

 

I will not accuse them or those that don't like what I like of being something they're not, and I will not show hostility to other customers, because I recognize that they are fellow customers, and that the artist should be allowed creative freedom if I want their work to remain a work of quality. And in the end it is their product, not mine, so why should I react with hostility, regardless of if they are showing in their games what I want or not? In the end, I have no reason to be hostile because this is not my expression, and I don't have to buy what I don't want to.

 

You are way too nice Killabee.
 

 

I'm just saying it because when I talk about guys with my straight friends, they get uncomfortable even just some passing comments, so I usually try to avoid talking about how guys are appealing and attractive. Just don't want to offend anyone of course. lol. It has nothing to do with you. 

 

 

Its not very different when girls get uncomfortable when guys start talking to girls about girls. Works both ways.

[Battlebloodmage]

I'm probably going to be a tiny minority with this, but I would like a rather subdued (not sure if that's the right word) with a professional military woman, where mutual respect and the occasional friction turn into attraction.

At no point would either character break the "no fraternisation" rule. Romance would be expressed by a brush against her arm here or slightly longer than necessary eye contact there.

Outright romance scenes would be subtle too, like you getting your leg hurt and she helping you to limp back to safety, walking just a little slower than the injury permits.

Or you choosing to send her on a more harmless mission when she could have taken the more dangerous one. She does it, but afterwards requests a debriefing where she questions your professionalism and you can tell you're unwilling to risk the most important...uh, asset of the team. You argue in circles for a bit, both realizing it's just an excuse to spend time with each other.

At the end of the story/trilogy, assuming you're both still alive, you can quit your service to make the no fraternisation rule go poof.

Not everyone's cup of tea, I know.

Is it more like someone who is professional and an ice queen on the outside but you're defrosting her showing that there's more to life than just work or something? 

 

I think it's depending on the series. Mass Effect being a military organization, fraternization is more of a problem than a Medieval army like DA. I don't think they have such a rule back in Medieval age, or maybe I just need to brush up on my Medieval knowledge. lol

[Gileadan]

Is it more like someone who is professional and an ice queen on the outside but you're defrosting her showing that there's more to life than just work or something?

I think it's depending on the series. Mass Effect being a military organization, fraternization is more of a problem than a Medieval army like DA. I don't think they have such a rule back in Medieval age, or maybe I just need to brush up on my Medieval knowledge. lol

I admit I had mostly Mass Effect in mind there and this might not work as well in Dragon Age.

"Ice Queen" isn't really what I was going for there. That word seems to imply a certain heartlessness. My idea was a romance with building up attraction that is held back by a strong sense of duty (or maybe social boundaries... that might work better for Dragon Age) and is therefore expressed in little gestures and those other things I mentioned.

[Battlebloodmage]

I admit I had mostly Mass Effect in mind there and this might not work as well in Dragon Age.

"Ice Queen" isn't really what I was going for there. That word seems to imply a certain heartlessness. My idea was a romance with building up attraction that is held back by a strong sense of duty (or maybe social boundaries... that might work better for Dragon Age) and is therefore expressed in little gestures and those other things I mentioned.

Ice queen may not always imply heartlessness. They may just not have any strong emotions. Some characters are Ice Queen but are actually caring or the coldness is just a mask. Some of my favorite characters are actually Ice Queens. I feel like in term of ME, Ashley is kinda fit that trope a bit. Ashley would straight up tell you that it's not professional to fraternize and would knock you out or something, I don't remember exactly but she was totally against it. She's also of the soldier class and doesn't have the typical model look (Let's not talk about the plastic surgery she had in ME3), her hair was bun up. She's also a tough, no nonsense type of personality. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'd actually like that. One of my favourite "romance" scenes ever is in The Last Samurai. Where it basically turns every conventional aspect of a love scene on it's head. Instead of making out and removing their clothes, the character of Taka actually dresses Algren. In her dead husbands ceremonial armor no less, to prepare him for battle. It's a silent scene, and all of the emotion is conveyed through looks, subtle brushes against each other as she dresses him etc. There's no actual physical expressions of lust or sex, but it's definitely a love scene, and a great one at that.

Yeah, the most explicit show of affection is a brief tender kiss and an embrace, but those are ones of love not lust. 

Great movie. 

[Battlebloodmage]

Talking about female tropes, it does feel weird if it applies to guys. I was just thinking about a stalking girl with a crush, and she would be considered cute, but a stalking guy with a crush, and you will have a creep. A yandere girl is moe, a yandere guy is a psychotic possessive douche. A tsundere girl is cute with her sudden bust of anger is caring, but a tsundere guy would kinda make him have an anger problem. It was just random thoughts I have since I was just thinking about how certain tropes were to reverse and how people would view it in general. Although some tropes can transfer between each other very well, like the archetype of character with little words and emotionless, as long as they're good looking, it doesn't matter guy or girl, I can see people go goo goo gaa gaa over them. Seen that for both guys and girls in fictions.

 

Maybe because society has certain roles and expectations for guys and girls, so certain tropes would feel like it fit certain gender more. Guys have certain expectations to be strong and stoic and protective while females are being viewed as more on nurturing role. It's like guys don't cry. Archetypes and tropes exist for a reason. It's just something familiar to the writers and people usually get their inspiration from the surrounding and what had been taught to them. I kinda want them to venture out into more different tropes like a guy who is more sensitive or a slobby female. I'm not saying they should do that, but it's just something they should think and explore while writing. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Talking about female tropes, it does feel weird if it applies to guys. I was just thinking about a stalking girl with a crush, and she would be considered cute, but a stalking guy with a crush, and you will have a creep. A yandere girl is moe, a yandere guy is a psychotic possessive douche. A tsundere girl is cute with her sudden bust of anger is caring, but a tsundere guy would kinda make him have an anger problem. It was just random thoughts I have since I was just thinking about how certain tropes were to reverse and how people would view it in general. Although some tropes can transfer between each other very well, like the archetype of character with little words and emotionless, as long as they're good looking, it doesn't matter guy or girl, I can see people go goo goo gaa gaa over them. Seem that a lot for both guys and girls in fictions.

 

Maybe because society has certain roles and expectations for guys and girls, so certain tropes would feel like it fit certain gender more. Guys have certain expectations to be strong and stoic and protective while females are being viewed as more on nurturing role. It's like guys don't cry. Archetypes and tropes exist for a reason. It's just something familiar to the writers and people usually get their inspiration from the surrounding and what had been taught to them. I kinda want them to venture out into more different tropes like a guy who is more sensitive or a slobby female. I'm not saying they should do that, but it's just something they should think and explore while writing. 

 

Welcome to the world of double standards, my young Padawan.

 

For your first lesson, you will study and understand the "Women Are Wonderful" Phenomena. It is one of the key social and psychological phenomena that will help on your journey to understand the prevalence of double standards.

 

https://en.wikipedia...derful"_effect\

 

The Wiki link has good references. If you want anecdotes, here you go...

 

https://np.reddit.co...ul_effect_is_a/

[Gileadan]

Ice queen may not always imply heartlessness. They may just not have any strong emotions. Some characters are Ice Queen but are actually caring or the coldness is just a mask. Some of my favorite characters are actually Ice Queens. I feel like in term of ME, Ashley is kinda fit that trope a bit. Ashley would straight up tell you that it's not professional to fraternize and would knock you out or something, I don't remember exactly but she was totally against it. She's also of the soldier class and doesn't have the typical model look (Let's not talk about the plastic surgery she had in ME3), her hair was bun up. She's also a tough, no nonsense type of personality.

Yes, Ashley would fit that trope quite a bit... until the sex scene after the team has hijacked the Normandy. (let alone calling me a Cerberus bot in the sequels)

A more Dragon Agey example: Tevinter - one of the lovers is from a magister's family, the other mundane. The head of the magister family could easily end the romance by having the mundane family sent to the other end of the Imperium, the Qunari front, or outright blackmail or murder. Therefore the romance is limited to subtle displays of attraction and affection - not out of coldness or pretense thereof, but out of necessity.

Duty and professionalism would still be my favorite elements that constrain the romance though.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

A more Dragon Agey example: Tevinter - one of the lovers is from a magister's family, the other mundane. The head of the magister family could easily end the romance by having the mundane family sent to the other end of the Imperium, the Qunari front, or outright blackmail or murder. Therefore the romance is limited to subtle displays of attraction and affection - not out of coldness or pretense thereof, but out of necessity.

Duty and professionalism would still be my favorite elements that constrain the romance though.

I can't believe I'm the one bringing this up, but they have already kind of done a Dragon Agey version of this, just not with a protagonist: 

 

If neither Blackwall nor Josephine are romanced, banter between Blackwall and other companions suggests that he has feelings for Josephine. Both Josephine and Blackwall acknowledge that they have feelings for each other, but cannot consummate it, as it would be inappropriate since they are of different stations. They seem content to flirt in subtle ways, such as exchanging romantic tokens or looks to express their fondness for one another, yet always in secret. According to Josephine, they are in what the Orlesians refer to as "la splendeur des coeurs perdus"- the splendor of lost hearts, they may court but can never consummate their romance, their love acknowledged but nothing more.

 

Now with these two, it was just a momentary infatuation, but that kind of romance does exist in the Dragon Age world so could potentially be done. 

[Battlebloodmage]

Yes, Ashley would fit that trope quite a bit... until the sex scene after the team has hijacked the Normandy. (let alone calling me a Cerberus bot in the sequels)

A more Dragon Agey example: Tevinter - one of the lovers is from a magister's family, the other mundane. The head of the magister family could easily end the romance by having the mundane family sent to the other end of the Imperium, the Qunari front, or outright blackmail or murder. Therefore the romance is limited to subtle displays of attraction and affection - not out of coldness or pretense thereof, but out of necessity.

Duty and professionalism would still be my favorite elements that constrain the romance though.

That's basically Cassandra's romance. Once she becomes the Divine, unlike Lelianna who goes against her duty and chooses to stay together with the Warden as a couple, Cassandra as the divine would choose her duty and forgo love, but just sneak some loving gaze whenever the Inquisitor comes to visit her. They love each other, but her duty is more important, and you're not the only one who needs her, she chooses to give herself to the world instead of her own happiness. 

[Gileadan]

I can't believe I'm the one bringing this up, but they have already kind of done a Dragon Agey version of this, just not with a protagonist:

If neither Blackwall nor Josephine are romanced, banter between Blackwall and other companions suggests that he has feelings for Josephine. Both Josephine and Blackwall acknowledge that they have feelings for each other, but cannot consummate it, as it would be inappropriate since they are of different stations. They seem content to flirt in subtle ways, such as exchanging romantic tokens or looks to express their fondness for one another, yet always in secret. According to Josephine, they are in what the Orlesians refer to as "la splendeur des coeurs perdus"- the splendor of lost hearts, they may court but can never consummate their romance, their love acknowledged but nothing more.

Now with these two, it was just a momentary infatuation, but that kind of romance does exist in the Dragon Age world so could potentially be done.

I never even saw a hint of that!

Banter avoided me like the plague most of the time.

[Artona]

You know what I'd like? Love triangle Aerie-Bhaalspawn-Haer'dalis style. 

[Silcron]

I see it as her thanking Hawke, she can't reciprocate the feeling, so her kiss is just like a thank you. A kiss on the cheek doesn't really mean that they're attracted to that person.

Ah, that kiss on the cheek. Thank you for mentioning it. Just read on the kiss thing and seeing how many times I've completed DA2 I was suprised I didn't remember that.

I see it as you do, but that others don't may be because of culture. I'm spanish so a kiss on the cheek is nothing. I give two kisses, one per cheek to all of my family member when we meet up, be they male or female. In fact, thte tradition is that when you are introduce to women you also do that (ie, woman is introduced to woman 2 kisses on the cheeks, man is introduced to woman..the same) The only time that is broken is between men, in which it's just a handshake.

It's not even that rare to screw up the coordination and kissing the other person on the lips, pretty much everyone has an anecdote about that. It has happened to me with a couple of girls I was introduced to, my uncle and even my father one time.

So Aveline kissing Hawke in the cheek as a thank you is as sexual to me as my friend giving me a hug because we haven't seen each other in a while.

[Colonelkillabee]

 
 

 
 
That is why you always go Merrill.No STDs and she is loyal and faithful.
 

 
You are way too nice Killabee.
 

 

Rofl then you don't know me too well XD

Sometimes, the best way to get others to see things your way is to proceed with logic and common decency whilst others aren't. Then people can't help but do the same, and common ground is sometimes achieved. Learned that from a wise and kind person I once loved.

There's a place for hostile engagements, and that is in debates where one's point is factual and can be proven. That's not the case here.

And yea, won't lie, one of the reasons I went Merril is because I found Isabella gross, lol.

[Colonelkillabee]

Referring to what I was saying about how people should engage one another when talking about games and such. The stuff about games not being commissions and how art is treated, that is rather factual. Overall point of how one should treat art is my opinion though. A logical one if you ask me.

[Gilli]

Ugh, tried to write up what romances I'd like to see, but it ended up looking more like which companion classes I'd like to see. 
I'm bad at this.
 

Spoiler

Okay, what would I like to see...
 
- a female Vashot/Tal-Vashot, either a rogue or a mage. The only two Qunari companions we had so far were both men AND warriors.   Sten was more boring than a stone and Bull....a bit too much for my taste. (I haven't romanced Bull yet, but even his banter is sometimes just not for me  )
she should not be race-gated, but I can't decide if she should be bi, or straight. I just like to romance her with a male elf, because of Last Flight.

Spoiler

and characterwise...hmm.... like the young Cassandra in Dawn of the Seeker. A hothead, but still professional enough to not go over board when it isn't appropiate.
 
- a female elf warrior, so far we had two elf rogues (Zevran and Sera), two mages (Merrill and Solas) and one warrior (Fenris) if we're excluding Ariane from Witch Hunt, but she wasn't romanceable anyway. Also ALL elves in the DAI Multiplayer are mages (Neria and Cillian). This could be the female!Cullen romance.

 

- a male gay rogue, yes, we had Zevran, but he's bi and his romance is sneaky (my last Warden didn't flirt with him and still Morrigan got angry and I had to break up a non-existent romance  ) and Sebastian, but he's straight and just ugh >.< This could be the male!Cassandra romance.

 

...later more...maybe... 

[Sah291]

Talking about female tropes, it does feel weird if it applies to guys. I was just thinking about a stalking girl with a crush, and she would be considered cute, but a stalking guy with a crush, and you will have a creep. A yandere girl is moe, a yandere guy is a psychotic possessive douche. A tsundere girl is cute with her sudden bust of anger is caring, but a tsundere guy would kinda make him have an anger problem. It was just random thoughts I have since I was just thinking about how certain tropes were to reverse and how people would view it in general. Although some tropes can transfer between each other very well, like the archetype of character with little words and emotionless, as long as they're good looking, it doesn't matter guy or girl, I can see people go goo goo gaa gaa over them. Seen that for both guys and girls in fictions.

All those tropes are all really popular though, in games and other romance genre media targeted at women. Although something like a tsundere guy really just comes off as your basic Jerk with a Heart of Gold or arrogant Alpha Male type, and I suppose yandere can have shades of Bad Boy or Villainous Crush appeal I guess. And the cool, stoic, emotionless girl/guy thing is done all the time... So I guess, what I'm saying is, these romance tropes are all pretty popular, they just take on a different flavor applied to male or female, or are labeled differently.

[BansheeOwnage]

I read an interesting article that posited attraction to far away accents might be caused by a biological compulsion. It claimed that it has to do with a slight impulse to avoid anything "too close to home."

Eh, I don't buy it. I think you'd see more interracial relationships if that was true, for one thing.

 

Ugh, tried to write up what romances I'd like to see, but it ended up looking more like which companion classes I'd like to see. 
I'm bad at this.
 

Spoiler

Okay, what would I like to see...
 
- a female Vashot/Tal-Vashot, either a rogue or a mage. The only two Qunari companions we had so far were both men AND warriors.   Sten was more boring than a stone and Bull....a bit too much for my taste. (I haven't romanced Bull yet, but even his banter is sometimes just not for me  )
she should not be race-gated, but I can't decide if she should be bi, or straight. I just like to romance her with a male elf, because of Last Flight.

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and characterwise...hmm.... like the young Cassandra in Dawn of the Seeker. A hothead, but still professional enough to not go over board when it isn't appropiate.
 
- a female elf warrior, so far we had two elf rogues (Zevran and Sera), two mages (Merrill and Solas) and one warrior (Fenris) if we're excluding Ariane from Witch Hunt, but she wasn't romanceable anyway. Also ALL elves in the DAI Multiplayer are mages (Neria and Cillian). This could be the female!Cullen romance.

 

- a male gay rogue, yes, we had Zevran, but he's bi and his romance is sneaky (my last Warden didn't flirt with him and still Morrigan got angry and I had to break up a non-existent romance  ) and Sebastian, but he's straight and just ugh >.< This could be the male!Cassandra romance.

 

...later more...maybe... 

I agree with those with regards to class combinations we haven't seen yet. If there is a Cullen-style romance with another woman, then in the immortal words of ME2 Shepard:

 

"I'll take it!"

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Eh, I don't buy it. I think you'd see more interracial relationships if that was true, for one thing.

 

I agree with those with regards to class combinations we haven't seen yet. If there is a Cullen-style romance with another woman, then in the immortal words of ME2 Shepard:

 

"I'll take it!"

Depending on the races, Asian women and white men are the highest interracial couples. There are a lot of stuffs to take into account for when it comes to interracial relationship and also has cultural and societal influence. This is not really a thread to discuss that, to be honest.

 

What about Cullen that makes you like him as a romance? What features in his romance that you want to have as a lesbian option.