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Why just open a brothel (Witcher style) for players to decide what type he/she likes?

Just imagine a brothel as complete as The Pearl with TW2 style sex scenes (the trans companions should be attractive this time though)...
...sign me up!

*Oh and there should be Qunari as well.
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Eh, I don't buy it. I think you'd see more interracial relationships if that was true, for one thing.



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You do see plenty of interracial relationships althroughout history, actually. There's constant intermingling, people just expect the babies to always be noticeably mix blooded, and they're not.

Not that I buy the accent idea but it's no secret that most people today come from various backgrounds and descent. Which is why the people claiming to be pure blooded are so ignorant, they're not pure to begin with. I'm talking more than "black and white", as Caucasians aren't a "race" and are rather numerous in variety despite modern social grouping.

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Just imagine a brothel as complete as The Pearl with TW2 style sex scenes (the trans companions should be attractive this time though)...
...sign me up!
*Oh and there should be Qunari as well.

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"I want to be a prostitute mom! A man-******!"

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You do see plenty of interracial relationships althroughout history, actually. There's constant intermingling, people just expect the babies to always be noticeably mix blooded, and they're not.

Not that I buy the accent idea but it's no secret that most people today come from various backgrounds and descent. Which is why the people claiming to be pure blooded are so ignorant, they're not pure to begin with. I'm talking more than "black and white", as Caucasians aren't a "race" and are rather numerous in variety despite modern social grouping.

Yeah, that's completely true. And I am distinctly aware of the bolded because I have enough (Canadian) First Nations' ancestry to qualify for programmes and the like even though I look totally white. Pale, even.

 

For the accent thing, I wouldn't say it's anything biological either, it's probably just as simple as people liking "exotic" things and a foreign accent being relatively unique in their homeland, things like that.

 

Depending on the races, Asian women and white men are the highest interracial couples. There are a lot of stuffs to take into account for when it comes to interracial relationship and also has cultural and societal influence. This is not really a thread to discuss that, to be honest.

Yes, definitely a lot of things to take into account, and I did take them into account. I wasn't trying to imply that interracial relationships were unheard of or anything, and I have no doubt they'll become more common as we go on. I was mostly just not buying that there is an inherent biological urge to seek a partner who has a different accent, even if I understand the whole genetic diversity angle. But yeah, not really the place to discuss it, sorry.

 

 

What about Cullen that makes you like him as a romance? What features in his romance that you want to have as a lesbian option. 

Almost everything :P And obviously part of it is that I like Cullen as a character, which is sort of required for the rest. He's a dedicated, loyal, strong-willed knight in shining/sour armour. He's duty-bound, but not to the point of zealotry. He's professional, but willing to fraternize. He's awkward and romantic, while occasionally deadpan and funny.

 

I like that the romance is primarily about just that: romance. There is sex, but it's not the foundation of the relationship. And personally, how they did the sex scene was perfect for my tastes (I realize this will be different for everyone). There was some sensuality (desk scene, woot), then fade to black, then the next morning. So there is still a scene, but it's not explicit.

 

I like that there is so much bonding, the support you can give him during his Perseverance quest (and the hug that shouldn't have been romance-specific), the solemn moment in the chapel before the final battle where he admits he's scared to lose you, along with another hug. And yet another hug when you come back safely. I also liked that hug because it's not only in public, but everyone's attention is on you. Why? I want the same thing in a lesbian relationship and I'm sure you want the same thing in a gay one: To not have to hide it. To be proud of your partner.

 

I loved the hilarious mix of feelings that was the first kiss scene. Awkward, then hilarious when the guard walks in at exactly the wrong time and the deathglare Cullen gives him, how embarrassed the Inquisitor looks, then surprising when he does kiss you.

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I liked the awkwardness of the flirting at the beginning. Just all of it. Like during the chess scene.

 

Cullen: This may be the longest we've gone without discussing the Inquisition - or related matters. To be honest, I appreciate the distraction.

Inquisitor: We should spend more time together.

Cullen: *smiles* I would like that.

Inquisitor: Me, too.

Cullen: ...You said that. (Almost muttering to himself in disbelief)

 

I also liked that my character could be the awkward one some of the time, which is a nice change. I like that he's polite and chivalrous (for lack of a better term), and doesn't want to overstep his bounds, though I wouldn't mind the LI making advances instead of the player sometimes. I like that he's not above talking about his feelings with you. He's a great guy who has his troubles and flaws like everyone. I liked that you could kiss him anytime (which I did surprisingly often), though I wish that option also included cuddling and spending time together, like playing chess. No dialogue necessary for those.

 

A minor complaint is that locking the romance was tied directly to having sex for the first time; ideally you could lock it in sooner as well as skip or delay sex, but that's not a Cullen-specific thing. I also would have liked to say "I love you" more than just the one time (especially since if you want to say it at all you can't pick anything else in that scene), but again that's just a huge problem for Bioware in general, not Cullen :P

 

TL;DR: I liked how awkward it was, how heartwarming, and how romantic, with a healthy amount of humour thrown in!


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Yeah, that's completely true. And I am distinctly aware of the bolded because I have enough (Canadian) First Nations' ancestry to qualify for programmes and the like even though I look totally white. Pale, even.

 

For the accent thing, I wouldn't say it's anything biological either, it's probably just as simple as people liking "exotic" things and a foreign accent being relatively unique in their homeland, things like that.

I'm the same way, lol. I'm actually mostly black, but my skin is very light for an african American. I'm like a slightly darker white dude that tans really well and doesn't get sunburned, lol. And with obvious black features.

 

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Genetics are a funny thing.

 

As for Cullen, I often wonder myself why so many people liked Cullen, to be honest I thought he was kinda dull. Then someone compared him to Cassandra, and yea they are kinda similar. And, I wonder if this is true for anyone else, did they like that for once there was a romance where no dark magic or some sort of unfortunate thing got in the way of your relationship? I mean more than the Divine stuff for Cass, I mean that up until now, most of the female options had some pretty big drama, and for me, my choices always had something getting in the way of the lovey dovey romance. Morrigan is obvious, Merrill kept choosing demons over you which felt kinda shitty until the end.

 

I for one felt appeal to Cassandra because she was grounded and the romance was normal. Wonder if that's the same for Cullenites, and I do hope there's that option again in the future, though I'd also like someone with some darkness to them as well... just because, I also dig that sort of thing, lol, just not all the time.


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I once got told by one of my teachers that I wasn't African American due to being too white :blink: Teacher....


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I once got told by one of my teachers that I wasn't African American due to being too white :blink: Teacher....

Some teachers are funny things too... ;)



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I once got told by one of my teachers that I wasn't African American due to being too white :blink: Teacher....

Wow, that teacher was a douchenozzle.


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I'm the same way, lol. I'm actually mostly black, but my skin is very light for an african American. I'm like a slightly darker white dude that tans really well and doesn't get sunburned, lol. And with obvious black features.
 

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Genetics are a funny thing.

**** you knocking them dead man! All you need to do is taking some R&B singing lessons, you will have sisters all over you!!!
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I'm the same way, lol. I'm actually mostly black, but my skin is very light for an african American. I'm like a slightly darker white dude that tans really well and doesn't get sunburned, lol. And with obvious black features.

 

Spoiler

 

Genetics are a funny thing.

 

As for Cullen, I often wonder myself why so many people liked Cullen, to be honest I thought he was kinda dull. Then someone compared him to Cassandra, and yea they are kinda similar. And, I wonder if this is true for anyone else, did they like that for once there was a romance where no dark magic or some sort of unfortunate thing got in the way of your relationship? I mean more than the Divine stuff for Cass, I mean that up until now, most of the female options had some pretty big drama, and for me, my choices always had something getting in the way of the lovey dovey romance. Morrigan is obvious, Merrill kept choosing demons over you which felt kinda shitty until the end.

 

I for one felt appeal to Cassandra because she was grounded and the romance was normal. Wonder if that's the same for Cullenites, and I do hope there's that option again in the future, though I'd also like someone with some darkness to them as well... just because, I also dig that sort of thing, lol, just not all the time.

Genetics are a funny thing indeed.

 

I like that aspect, yeah. I don't need drama in a romance to like it. Not that there can be no drama. Just nothing too crazy. And if I'm going to do one, I do like it to be fairly "happily ever after", since that's why I'm doing it.

 

I once got told by one of my teachers that I wasn't African American due to being too white :blink: Teacher....

My dad was once denied a teaching position that had to do with First Nations for the explicit reason that despite him having more First Nations blood than I do, he "didn't look native enough". Yeah. Racism's pretty weird sometimes.


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Yeah, I thought it was weird - their are black men that look white and white men that look black. I dunno what made the teacher email my mother about it - but she did... For some reason.

 

But shouldn't we get back on topic?



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Yeah, I thought it was weird - their are black men that look white and white men that look black. I dunno what made the teacher email my mother about it - but she did... For some reason.

 

But shouldn't we get back on topic?

She emailed your mom? LOL.

 

Well, I have been talking about romances for a while... Even in the post above yours. So we're fairly on-topic.


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Yeah - that teacher told my mom this: "Your daughter told some of her pupils that she was African American - do you mind talking to her about her nationality? Thanks!" Or something like dat...



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It can be even funny too. But not so much ... Too many the ****** idiot, but if an idiot being teacher, that particularly dangerous. (Sorry, no more off.)



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Yeah - that teacher told my mom this: "Your daughter told some of her pupils that she was African American - do you mind talking to her about her nationality? Thanks!" Or something like dat...

I'll spoiler my off-topic for now

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On-topic: Do people have any preference when it comes to the races of the romances? Generally they should probably just go for diversity again, to avoid rehashing. Since we are talking about archetypes and stereotypes here. Personally though, while it's not a huge deal I'd probably pick human every time if I could. I just find humans the most appealing, no real surprise there :P



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I'll spoiler my off-topic for now

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On-topic: Do people have any preference when it comes to the races of the romances? Generally they should probably just go for diversity again, to avoid rehashing. Since we are talking about archetypes and stereotypes here. Personally though, while it's not a huge deal I'd probably pick human every time if I could. I just find humans the most appealing, no real surprise there :P

I have a dalish elf fetish.... lol. Wouldn't mind another dalish elven woman.

 

Or some scout Harding. Mmm... I have no preference for race really. Only preference is that they're not Orlesian, lol. Leliana's voice gives me a headache, and I hate Orlesians in general. Loghain is my spirit animal, lol.

 

Probably wouldn't bang a qunari either.



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I'll spoiler my off-topic for now

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On-topic: Do people have any preference when it comes to the races of the romances? Generally they should probably just go for diversity again, to avoid rehashing. Since we are talking about archetypes and stereotypes here. Personally though, while it's not a huge deal I'd probably pick human every time if I could. I just find humans the most appealing, no real surprise there :P

 

For my character mostly i choose elf, but now the elves not seem very attractive ... ;)  (I like Skyrim and TESO high elfs appearance better) Now i have a human, a male and a female elf and a qunari.
 
For romance? Elf and human.


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I'll spoiler my off-topic for now

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On-topic: Do people have any preference when it comes to the races of the romances? Generally they should probably just go for diversity again, to avoid rehashing. Since we are talking about archetypes and stereotypes here. Personally though, while it's not a huge deal I'd probably pick human every time if I could. I just find humans the most appealing, no real surprise there :P

 

I don't really have a preference either, tho so far I only romanced Humans (Alistair, Morrigan, Anders, Josie, Cassandra, Dorian) and Elves (Merrill, Solas).

I'm not really interested in male Qunari so far. Too big/tall and broadshouldered. 

I think I would romance dwarves if they were like Harding and/or Renn. (why did Renn have to die?  :crying:)



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I'm the same way, lol. I'm actually mostly black, but my skin is very light for an african American. I'm like a slightly darker white dude that tans really well and doesn't get sunburned, lol. And with obvious black features.

 

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Genetics are a funny thing.

 

As for Cullen, I often wonder myself why so many people liked Cullen, to be honest I thought he was kinda dull. Then someone compared him to Cassandra, and yea they are kinda similar. And, I wonder if this is true for anyone else, did they like that for once there was a romance where no dark magic or some sort of unfortunate thing got in the way of your relationship? I mean more than the Divine stuff for Cass, I mean that up until now, most of the female options had some pretty big drama, and for me, my choices always had something getting in the way of the lovey dovey romance. Morrigan is obvious, Merrill kept choosing demons over you which felt kinda shitty until the end.

 

I for one felt appeal to Cassandra because she was grounded and the romance was normal. Wonder if that's the same for Cullenites, and I do hope there's that option again in the future, though I'd also like someone with some darkness to them as well... just because, I also dig that sort of thing, lol, just not all the time.

I think I already mentioned this, but Cullen is pretty much what you would expect a guy in a romance novel would react. He's impatient when it comes to you, he's a bit cold to outsider but when you guys are alone, he gives you all the attention of the world. You're like his support pillar. I just like that kind of storytelling. He's the classical romance people would swoon over. Both Cullen and Cassandra are on the romantic side and that's why I like them so much. I mentioned Alistair for the same reasons because all the stuffs he did for you are pretty cute. He gives you a flower he picked up. This is the reason why I can't romance Dorian and Iron Bull, their romance story doesn't get as romantic as Cullen or Cassandra. Reading poem, wooing Cassandra or Cullen clearing the table and throw you on it. These things make the romance a whole lot better. In general, I don't know why gay romance lacks so much romantic moment in DAI. Iron Bull is too jokey while Dorian doesn't have the kinds of scenes that make you swoon. His romance specific scene is basically about him hiding his sexuality. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I just want romance, I honestly don't need for the relationship to be complicated by making it a forbidden love because of my sexuality. 


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I'll spoiler my off-topic for now

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On-topic: Do people have any preference when it comes to the races of the romances? Generally they should probably just go for diversity again, to avoid rehashing. Since we are talking about archetypes and stereotypes here. Personally though, while it's not a huge deal I'd probably pick human every time if I could. I just find humans the most appealing, no real surprise there :P

Humans. I've always attracted more to humans. For Mass Effect, I would at least like to romance a Turian since both of the male options in ME3 was humans. For DAI, I like a male KISA. A strong knight with a bright idealistic view, but he could also be soured by how society treating his ideas, so he could be a bit dark and sarcastic. It seems like the perfect setting for a Tevinter templar to be the gay option. However, for the love of all things that is holy, don't make a big deal out of his sexuality again just because he's from Tevinter. Let's just treat his relationship as if it's a straight relationship. I don't want to be a special snowflake, I want to be just like everyone else, so I hope they don't bring attention about how my relationship is different. 



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Cullen is really good, I checked, Cassandra was cute, he was the partner of Karl. Now my elf with Dorian, but i dont know yet, who i will chose to my Adaar... I dont really interested Bull, but maybe.



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For my character mostly i choose elf, but now the elves not seem very attractive ... ;)  (I like Skyrim and TESO high elfs appearance better) Now i have a human, a male and a female elf and a qunari.
 
For romance? Elf and human.

 

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What I want in a elf won't be available in DA series, I like a more muscular elf with a beard. DA elves can't grow a beard, and their body is too skinny, the elf is being described as beautiful and their eyes are pretty. I'm usually attracted to the masculine quality in a guy, so I usually like guys that have these quality. 


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I'd have played a male elf by now if they didn't look so weak.


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Yes, he is very much in line with my taste ...