I'm not into tall woman lol, especially ones with horns XD. And then there's the whole extreme communist thing. Nahhhh.
Lol, communist! It's means qun? 
(Believe me, communism is not as logical as the Qun ... This is not to say that the Qun logical.)
Mae is a woman.
I am so, horny, right now.
lets add some sten into the mix!
tho wasnt sten the first qunari we see in the dragon age universe and he is quite humanized
so is sten an exception or are there different kinds of qunari
BUT, qunari dudes are usually pictured as more monsterish, in the comics and in concept art
I need this one to bang me six ways from Sunday. 
That shot of Mae shirtless on the torture chambers says otherwise. Polítical correctness does not overcome nature itself as far as I'm aware.
Mae is a woman. That was a woman's chest you saw.
Mae is a woman. That was a woman's chest you saw.
Oh, I get it, you're a troll. Never mind then.
I'm not the one denying a woman is a woman, bro.
I'm not the one denying a woman is a woman, bro.
Sure, and Ali G is a black man. Totally fair and logical.
Mae is a woman. Therefore, her body is that of a woman. Ali G is a character created by Sacha Baron Cohen to mock white British guys. There is no comparison. One is a woman, and a magister. The other is a comic.
All those tropes are all really popular though, in games and other romance genre media targeted at women. Although something like a tsundere guy really just comes off as your basic Jerk with a Heart of Gold or arrogant Alpha Male type, and I suppose yandere can have shades of Bad Boy or Villainous Crush appeal I guess. And the cool, stoic, emotionless girl/guy thing is done all the time... So I guess, what I'm saying is, these romance tropes are all pretty popular, they just take on a different flavor applied to male or female, or are labeled differently.
Yep. Any otome game or romance novel you can find a yandere and a tsundere not to mention the ice king that only is decent to the protagonist (after some defrosting of course) and aloof with everyone else.
I'm picturing the Cable Guy.. Someone who learned all his life lessons from Gilligan's Island.
OK, I'm being facetious. Sorry. Honestly, I think gays are dealing with tradition and social norms. Not media. They can try to unravel it through media, but it won't happen anytime soon. The best people can hope for is simply not be dehumanized and to be treated equally. And maybe the media can help there. But I doubt it'll ever be treated normally.
When it comes to many topics, the media and politicians use our cultural, class, religious, gender, and (now) sexual differences to create division. Although I am a heterosexual-white male, the main problem I have is from pandering. I personally don't care about our individual differences. ....and that is why I am ticked at BioWare. After finally getting hit with negative press, during the "Dragon Age II" debacle, BioWare came out and said, "people are just being homophobic." Instead of acknowledging the game's overall issues, BioWare had intentionally tried to pit fans against fans. "Dragon Age: Origins" already allowed people to play as a lesbian; thus, people didn't have a problem with the inclusion of gay characters. What got everyone ticked was the 'pandering'.
Hollywood and Disney are also pandering. Instead of selling people on a strong story, the new selling point is "we have gays, girls, and blacks". Who cares. If they just focus on giving us a strong story, people would just naturally accept the diverse nature of humanity.
I don't watch "Star Trek" to see a white guy, black guy, gay guy, etc... I watch "Star Trek" because it: (1) contains a strong story, (2) speaks to the human spirit, (3) brings people together, (4) challenges our perspective, and (5) gets us to believe in something greater.
Ok, you two better stop before the mods come in, now with all due respect, being politically correct doesn't mean we ignore science and logic, I can accept someone changes it's gender and treat him/her like what (s)he wants to be... but chromosomes matter to me, I wouldn't date a transwoman.
Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that Mae is a woman. This isn't 'political correctness' - it's a fact. Mae is a woman. She is a female character in Dragon Age. She is the daughter of Athanir Tilani, and the widow of Thorold Tethras. These are canon facts.
Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that Mae is a woman. This isn't 'political correctness' - it's a fact. Mae is a woman. She is a female character in Dragon Age. She is the daughter of Athanir Tilani, and the widow of Thorold Tethras. These are canon facts.
Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that Mae is a woman. This isn't 'political correctness' - it's a fact. Mae is a woman. She is a female character in Dragon Age. She is the daughter of Athanir Tilani, and the widow of Thorold Tethras. These are canon facts.
Writers said that "Mae is a woman in all but her body" so, the behaviour is indeed the one of a woman but doesn't change the fact that the body is the one of a man... In few words, transwoman.
Yes. And trans women just as much women as cis women.
Can Mae give birth to a child?
No, and neither can a great many cis women. That doesn't, shocking I know, make them any less women than women who can.
No, and neither can a great many cis women. That doesn't, shocking I know, make them any less women than women who can.
Then let me correct the question: Does Mae have an vagina? Does Mae produce ovaries? Does Mae menstruates? What's your answer for all of that?
No, she doesn't.
But she's still a woman.
No, and neither can a great many cis women. That doesn't, shocking I know, make them any less women than women who can.
Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that Mae is a woman. This isn't 'political correctness' - it's a fact. Mae is a woman. She is a female character in Dragon Age. She is the daughter of Athanir Tilani, and the widow of Thorold Tethras. These are canon facts.
In term of classification, sex and gender are two different things. Sex is referring to the biological sex you were born with while gender is about a sense of self. I see it as Mae is of the male sex but of the female gender.
Biologically yes, we are not fishes, we can't actually change our gender, nor we are lizards, we aren't all one gender that can breed just through stimulation.
Yes, we are not fishes or lizards, so let's not try to analyze gender from a fish/lizard point of view.
We can do so from a human perspective though.
But this is not the thread for it, I don't think anyway.
Then let me correct the question: Does Mae have an vagina? Does Mae produce ovaries? Does Mae menstruates? What's your answer for all of that?
I wouldn't continue down this line of reasoning. Because it's going to land you at a road block. There are examples of 'biological women' who don't do all of those things (such as, women who have gone through menopause, women who were born without functioning ovaries -- the term you meant to use earlier was actually ova, not ovaries which produce ova), so it's a flawed argument. Plus, you can't even go with XX chromosomes because: Is that even how genetics work in Thedas? And also, there are 'biological women' who don't have XX chromosomes as well. Like those with Turner's Syndrome.
I'm not telling you to change how you believe (even though I think you should), I'm just suggesting abandoning this flawed logic chain. Because nature doesn't work in absolutes like this, so you can't use the absence of those traits as exlcusionary of "woman-ness" all the time. And it's just going to get hostile from both ends. We've seen it a million times already on BSN.
This thread is amusing in that it devolves to such tripe because its own topic is utterly spent.
Please though, continue the show-respectfully of course, I am enjoying this.
Yes. And trans women just as much women as cis women.
Although I respect that they have psychological issues, due to a conflict between the mind and body, the reality is that transgender-females are still male. Transgender-males are still females. Regardless about how many drugs they take, while also the surgery they undergo, the reality is that they were biologically born as a female or male. You cannot change your DNA. Transgenders, psychologically, believe they identity with the opposite gender. According to what I have read in psychology journals, the vast majority of transgender teens snap out of it by adulthood. We should be patient with transgender teens and adults. Doctors also don't know the long-term affects of taking hormones; thus, transgenders could be causing themselves biological and psychological damage. We currently lack enough research.
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