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[Qun00]

Is it on account of the Hero of Ferelden's competence or that this Blight was a smaller threat for some unexplained reason?

[Reznore57]

Because the wardens managed to kill the Archdemon quickly .

[straykat]

Flemeth.

 

Oh, and that strong sense of uncertainty she goes on about.

[SwobyJ]

It was explained in Awakening. This was a premature Blight triggered by the Architect. While it still would have at least destroyed Ferelden without the Warden, and potentially played into some larger threat (and so was opposed by Flemeth), it seemed unlikely to outright end Thedas in itself.

 

Between it starting too early and the Warden stepping up to the plate and winning, Thedas managed to have a Blight that didn't do nearly as much damage as 'usual' (while still waking up the world to continuing to acknowledge the existence of the threat of Darkspawn).

 

DAO was on one hand a lesser danger than had been previously faced by Thedas, but on the other hand the other contexts (including it happening in Ferelden for once and in its political situation, etc) still had the stakes just about as high.

[straykat]

It was explained in Awakening. This was a premature Blight triggered by the Architect. While it still would have at least destroyed Ferelden without the Warden, and potentially played into some larger threat (and so was opposed by Flemeth), it seemed unlikely to outright end Thedas in itself.

 

Between it starting too early and the Warden stepping up to the plate and winning, Thedas managed to have a Blight that didn't do nearly as much damage as 'usual' (while still waking up the world to continuing to acknowledge the existence of the threat of Darkspawn).

 

DAO was on one hand a lesser danger than had been previously faced by Thedas, but on the other hand the other contexts (including it happening in Ferelden for once and in its political situation, etc) still had the stakes just about as high.

 

Even so, it's not all that premature. If the other blights are any indication, they all happen every couple hundred of years. This one actually took the longest. Garahel was like 400 years back. They apparently killed a ton of darkspawn then, but the number of centuries since then has offset it, I think.

[Vanilka]

The... Warden... kicked too much ass...?

 

I'm kidding. Don't hurt me.

[Aren]

I don't understand what is the answer you are looking for.

It needed to end quickly because we can't focus all the Dragon age into a single archdemon, plot reasons is the answer.

 

It was explained in Awakening. This was a premature Blight triggered by the Architect. While it still would have at least destroyed Ferelden without the Warden, and potentially played into some larger threat (and so was opposed by Flemeth), it seemed unlikely to outright end Thedas in itself.

 

Between it starting too early and the Warden stepping up to the plate and winning, Thedas managed to have a Blight that didn't do nearly as much damage as 'usual' (while still waking up the world to continuing to acknowledge the existence of the threat of Darkspawn).

 

DAO was on one hand a lesser danger than had been previously faced by Thedas, but on the other hand the other contexts (including it happening in Ferelden for once and in its political situation, etc) still had the stakes just about as high.

Nonsense.

It doesn't matter who awakened the critter,the archdemon still had immense advantages thanks to the civil war who helped him,if he didn't nothing for 90% of the game and was defeated is because "reasons"

 

Because the wardens managed to kill the Archdemon quickly .

Or more likely because the archdemon was doing nothing until the end of the game?

[Aren]

Even so, it's not all that premature. If the other blights are any indication, they all happen every couple hundred of years. This one actually took the longest. Garahel was like 400 years back. They apparently killed a ton of darkspawn then, but the number of centuries since then has offset it, I think.

Which only means that the darkspawns were looking for another old god whom will be found soon.

Maybe it require more time because the remained old gods are more weak than the one of the past and their calling is more difficult to intercept.

[Ghost Gal]

Because the player character was there. 

 

In-universe, you basically pulled the weed by the root before it could spread too far. Managed to gather your army (with those treaties) and unite the nation (civil war-divided Ferelden) to take down the Archdemon before the horde could get too far.

[straykat]

The... Warden... kicked too much ass...?

 

I'm kidding. Don't hurt me.

 

But they also kicked ass because of Flemeth... imo

 

I think when she's uncertain of someone, she expects big things. And she'll help them. Like Hawke too. So yeah, the Warden is a badass. But she set the course - she got the treaties, she said our job was to inspire, she said what had to be done before we met Loghain, she sent Morrigan with us, who in turn led us to Lothering. And if Flemeth's message about Warden's wasn't inspiring enough, then Leliana might (Andrastianism). Or Sten might (Duty).

 

Or hell, maybe it was Dog. My City Elf always wanted a Mabari. +20 to morale

[Aren]

Because the player character was there. 

 

In-universe, you basically pulled the weed by the root before it could spread too far. Managed to gather your army (with those treaties) and unite the nation (civil war-divided Ferelden) to take down the Archdemon before the horde could get too far.

Which don't make sense because the archdemon won at Ostagar he had already an army that could have been used to crush the warden before they even had the chance to build anything.

He Urthemiel could have attacked Denerim 3 days later he won at Ostagar,there was no need for him to wait the warden for 1 year.

[Qun00]

Or more likely because the archdemon was doing nothing until the end of the game?

Andoral didn't **** around, I'll tell you that. It showed up to fight the Grey Wardens of the 4th Blight right in the beginning.

[Vanilka]

But they also kicked ass because of Flemeth... imo

 

I think when she's uncertain of someone, she expects big things. And she'll help them. Like Hawke too. So yeah, the Warden is a badass. But she set the course - she got the treaties, she said our job was to inspire, she said what had to be done before we met Loghain, she sent Morrigan with us, who in turn led us to Lothering. And if Flemeth's message about Warden's wasn't inspiring enough, then Leliana might (Andrastianism). Or Sten might (Duty).

 

Or hell, maybe it was Dog. My City Elf always wanted a Mabari. +20 to morale

 

Oh, I agree with that. I mean, to me that's not even up to discussion. (As I said, I was mostly kidding. Mostly.) The Warden and Alistair would be dead without Flemeth. They might've never got the treaties because the magic protecting them had worn off, and had it not been for Flemeth, they might have been a pile of wet rags by the time the Wardens found them, if they had been found at all. Figuring out the next course of action was cooperation of sorts between her and Alistair (and in some cases the Warden). Can't argue with the rest of your argument, either. While I think Morrigan could be optional, I still think she made stuff go much more smoothly at times. I couldn't see my Warden do it without her, just like I couldn't imagine her do it without Alistair. (Morrigan in the end saved both their lives, too.) And, of course, my Mahariel too defeated the Blight thanks to the help of her loyal hound Dandelion first and foremost.

[straykat]

Which don't make sense because the archdemon won at Ostagar he had already an army that could have been used to crush the warden before they even had the chance to build anything.

He Urthemiel could have attacked Denerim 3 days later he won at Ostagar,there was no need for him to wait the warden for 1 year.

 

You got me there. I can't think of a good reason why it took a year.

 

We get the first vision of the dragon in the Deep Roads right after Lothering. It shouldn't them take too long to get to the surface. Is it still organizing it's army? Ruck said the Darkspawn were leaving because of the Archdemon's call.. but even that shouldn't take a year.

[Reznore57]

 

 

Or more likely because the archdemon was doing nothing until the end of the game?

 

 

A blight ends when wardens kill the archemon , the quicker the wardens managed to do that , the shorter the Blight is.

Not talking about context here.

I was just playing Captain Obvious.

[straykat]

Y'know, I hate to admit it, but the Reaper invasion in ME3 actually had a better timeline than this. That was only a few months, I think.

[Qun00]

I've also wondered how could it take an year for these events to take place. Quests like Broken Circle and the Arl of Redcliffe were only one day long.

Maybe it's mostly because they're travelling through a large country on foot.

[Aren]

Oh, I agree with that. I mean, to me that's not even up to discussion. (As I said, I was mostly kidding. Mostly.) The Warden and Alistair would be dead without Flemeth. They might've never got the treaties because the magic protecting them had worn off, and had it not been for Flemeth, they might have been a pile of wet rags by the time the Wardens found them, if they had been found at all. Figuring out the next course of action was cooperation of sorts between her and Alistair (and in some cases the Warden). Can't argue with the rest of your argument, either. While I think Morrigan could be optional, I still think she made stuff go much more smoothly at times. I couldn't see my Warden do it without her, just like I couldn't imagine her do it without Alistair. (Morrigan in the end saved both their lives, too.) And, of course, my Mahariel too defeated the Blight thanks to the help of her loyal hound Dandelion first and foremost.

I was always uncertain about that.

The human noble dog never needed Flemeth help to escape from the tower of Ishal and darkspawns don't kill those who are injured they took them as prisoners,so at best the warden would have been captured and sent into the deep roads to serve the archdemon.

In my game i did all the job alone (solo game) and dismissed most companions who were not mandatory ,only Loghain was useful for me.

[Aren]

I've also wondered how could it take an year for these events to take place. Quests like Broken Circle and the Arl of Redcliffe were only one day long.

Maybe it's mostly because they're travelling through a large country on foot.

TImeline of DAO don't make sense,especially for the character of Jowan.

[straykat]

I've also wondered how could it take an year for these events to take place. Quests like Broken Circle and the Arl of Redcliffe were only one day long.

Maybe it's mostly because they're travelling through a large country on foot.

 

Traveling would be the big reason. That's kind of what Last Flight illustrates. And Stolen Throne. It takes forever for Loghain and Rowan to move around, recruiting people.

[Vanilka]

 

I was always uncertain about that.

The human noble dog never needed Flemeth help to escape from the tower of Ishal and darkspawns don't kill those who are injured they took them as prisoners,so at best the warden would have been captured and sent into the deep roads.

In my game i did all the job alone (solo game) and dismissed most companions who were not mandatory.

 

 

Well, the Warden does get shot by multiple arrows. Wait, I made a screenshot of that, where did I...

 

 

Here it is.

 

Frankly, I think the Warden is the ultimate badass, but I don't think they're badass enough to survive being a pincushion. (Not without help anyway.) Alistair might have fared better because he at least had a shield and didn't seem to get the worst of it like the Warden did. But we don't know awfully lot about what was going on with him as we're not allowed to ask him about it.

[GoldenGail3]

Flemeth!

[Aren]

Well, the Warden does get shot by multiple arrows. Wait, I made a screenshot of that, where did I...

 

 

Here it is.

 

Frankly, I think the Warden is the ultimate badass, but I don't think they're badass enough to survive being a pincushion. (Not without help anyway.) Alistair might have fared better because he at least had a shield and didn't seem to get the worst of it like the Warden did. But we don't know awfully lot about what was going on with him as we're not allowed to ask him about it.

I don't think that 3 arrows are enough to kill the character who could be protected by an armor since none of them hit a vital point.

I can't think also that the dog is better than the warden since he was not helped by Flemeth.

[straykat]

Even that can be credited to Flemeth. She healed us. We probably would have died, no matter who we were.

[Ghost Gal]

Which don't make sense because the archdemon won at Ostagar he had already an army that could have been used to crush the warden before they even had the chance to build anything.

He Urthemiel could have attacked Denerim 3 days later he won at Ostagar,there was no need for him to wait the warden for 1 year.

 

Hush, you're bringing logic into it.