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I'm starting to realize DA:I would've beaten TW3 if it didn't have to bend over backwards for PS3 Compatibility


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Do you ever read articles like this one  and cry yourself to sleep because that is what I just did.

 

Two years and I'm still thinking back on what Val Royeaux could have been. Oh, the Solavellan hell would've cut even deeper, my friends. The hell would've been even deeper.

 

 

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due to the fact i am sleeping, i disclaim any responsibility for what i just said


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The Plush Fustian Velvet could literally brush against my sensitive face if it had been PS4-only, do you understand.


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I don't have powerful consoles. PC owner here. o/ So I can only dream of owning certain titles for PS4 and Xbox One. That or search for available PC versions on Steam.

 

 

On the other hand...

 

the new consoles are "actually brand new PCs.

 

 

This gives me a tiny ray of hope.  :P



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I don't have powerful consoles. PC owner here. o/ So I can only dream of owning certain titles for PS4 and Xbox One. That or search for available PC versions on Steam.

 

 

On the other hand...

 

 

This gives me a tiny ray of hope.  :P

oh but I mean of course, the PC would swallow the PS4 whole. If they didn't have to bend over backwards for PS3, it would have been even MORE stunning on PC than it already is.

 

I know this is probably something everyone understood in 2005 when Coldplay just came out but this is a new concept to me and it's actually very startling and the gravity of it is flooring me a little.

 

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS

 

I kept complaining about Val Royeaux and the keeps. It was the PS3 the whole time! It was the PS#

 

It was the PS3


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Like some Greek traveler descends into the 10th level of Solavellan hell and finds a beggar in rags carving runes on the wall repeating "It was the PS3....it was the PS3"

 

That's what this is.



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We saw a glimpse of what DAI could have been capable of (environment-wise) in The Descent and Trespasser DLCs

 

Otherwise, not sure how much difference it would have made. Plot would still be the same. As well as dialogue options and/or combat system


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Where's the Xbox 360 love?


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We saw a glimpse of what could DAI could have been capable of (environment-wise) in The Descent and Trespasser.

 

Otherwise, not sure how much difference it would have made. Plot would still be the same. As well as dialogue options and/or combat system

Combat system probably would've been different too. Also, I imagine that plot must often conform to scenery and assets. The plot must be logical given the constraints of the places portrayed, the lack of places that can be rendered. ;___; Who knows? In addition, many young developers must have been so tortured by the many beautiful meshes and assets they had to sacrifice, perhaps they scrawled out pieces of the plot with lackluster feeling as a result.



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Like some Greek traveler descends into the 10th level of Solavellan hell and finds a beggar in rags carving runes on the wall repeating "It was the PS3....it was the PS3"

 

That's what this is.

 

Look on the bright side! He'll be back in DA4!  :wizard:



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Wait, I thought DAI bent over backwards for console-only players, rather than for one specific console version.

 

Origins was apparently awful on console, while the PC version was amazing, and I figure the same thing happened here, only reversed, relating to the players themselves.

 

BTW, how exactly does Coldplay come into this? Out of curiosity.


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Why are you pointing out the PS3 only when it was released for the 360 also?


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Do you ever read articles like this one  and cry yourself to sleep because that is what I just did.

 

Two years and I'm still thinking back on what Val Royeaux could have been. Oh, the Solavellan hell would've cut even deeper, my friends. The hell would've been even deeper.

 

Yup, folks have been complaining about the too-slow-new-console-rollout for a long time. You're correct, it's held back gaming development. 

 

I can just imagine the poor developers sleepless nights when their pin-head ignorant overlords told them they had to develop Inquisition to run on the Xbox 360 & PS3. 


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Why are you pointing out the PS3 only when it was released for the 360 also?

 

The article linked singles out the PS3 as more difficult to develop for than the Xbox 360.



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Why are you pointing out the PS3 only when it was released for the 360 also?


I was always fuzzy about xboxes. Like which one predates the other and whether they sync up to the PS versions rly

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Wait, I thought DAI/BioWare bent over backwards for console-only players, rather than for one specific console version.

Origins was apparently awful on console, while the PC version was amazing, and I figure the same thing happened here, only reversed, relating to the players themselves.

BTW, how exactly does Coldplay come into this? Out of curiosity.

Just painting the oldness of 2005

From what I saw in the Witcher article, game development loading times and open world asset rendering are directly inhibited by the PS3.

If they had refused the Older gen, they could've rendered more.

I know lateral porting between different platforms is also difficult but that is a matter of translation. I think the CAPACITY for game assets is roughly similar across all the platforms in a generation.

By forcing the PS3, Val Royeaux was choked. Literally choked oh my god

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DAI would never have beaten TW3, consoles or no consoles. TW3 is better than DAI in almost every single way.


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The Plush Fustian Velvet could literally brush against my sensitive face if it had been PS4-only, do you understand.

Yeah, just imagine if they could have swung a dragon battle in Skyhold, and actually let you use those trebuchets in the Hinterlands and a couple of other places, and had all of your companions on mounts, and more hair options and... well I guess we'll never know.

 

BUT TEVINTER SHOULD BE AWESOME.


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DAI would never have beaten TW3, consoles or no consoles. TW3 is better than DAI in almost every single way.


Ok wow *tries to erase your face*
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Yeah, just imagine if they could have swung a dragon battle in Skyhold, and actually let you use those trebuchets in the Hinterlands and a couple of other places, and had all of your companions on mounts, and more hair options and... well I guess we'll never know.

BUT TEVINTER SHOULD BE AWESOME.


Yeah it does give me a lot of new hope for DA4, but hopefully they produce it before PS5 :)

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DAI beat TW3? Eh no, sure dropping the old consoles would have given Bioware the opportunity to make it better looking, have less loading times, not have a static world etc...but the ultimate flaw with DAI is its design choices. As in the design choices to be an offline mmo or have crappy side quests, or a short unfulfilling story, or bad character writing, or lack of cinematic cutscenes etc...

Witcher 3 just trashes DAI, so much so that it should be considered rape. It amazes me still to this day how CD got it right. Just the other day I was sailing across skellige and enjoying the windwaker-esque feel to it. Too bad DAI has nothing like it, too bad DAI fails so miserably in a lot of categories in comparison to tw3.
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By forcing the PS3, Val Royeaux was choked. Literally choked oh my god

How are you so sure? Perhaps Bioware always wanted Val Royeaux to be just a small market. Do we have any of devs coming out and saying that Val Royeaux was intended to be a full city the size of some of the other regions with quests and the lot?

I highly doubt it. Bioware is lazy. This game was in development for 3 years and honestly it needed another 1-2 just to realize the dreams and hopes a lot of us had before it launched. I too was eagerly awaiting Val Royeaux and was greatly angered by what we got.
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Ok wow *tries to erase your face*

 

Hear me out.

 

TW3 has better graphics than DAI.

 

TW art style and aesthetics is far more consistent than DA's art style and aesthetics.

 

TW3 has better soundtrack than vanilla DAI, only Trespasser is capable of matching TW3 in the soundtrack department.

 

TW3 has no DRM on it, DAI has DRM.

 

TW3 has far more free DLCs than DAI.

 

TW3's paid DLCs contain far more content than DAI's paid DLCs / TW3's paid DLCs have better bang for the buck compared to DAI's paid DLCs.

 

TW3 did large cities far better than DAI. Novigrad makes Val Royeaux look like sh*t.

 

TW3 didn't spend time lecturing, proselytizing and preaching to its audience, DAI did just that.

 

TW3 NPCs are far more realistic than the DAI NPCs.

 

TW3 is open world, DAI is not. Therefore, TW3 has more content than DAI.

 

TW3 did strong female characters far better than DAI. Ciri and Yennefer > any DAI female character.

 

TW3 does espionage and politics far better than DAI.

 

TW3 does monster boss fights far better than DAI. TW3 does monsters far better than DAI.

 

TW3 makes you feel like you are a Witcher with the quests, lore, bounty, Witcher senses, dialogue options to use Axii. DAI makes you feel like someone who does random MMO quests instead of the head of an organization.

 

TW3 has far more diversity in character sizes and heights. DAI has everyone with a racially fixed height and weight.

 

TW3 has better hair than DAI.

 

TW3 does magic far better than DAI. TW3 mages say certain words and use all sorts of magical gadgetry. DAI mages twerk around their staves and use magic 8 balls.

 

TW3 does Elves far better than DAI. Elves in DAI look anorexic, Elves (Aen Elle) in TW3 are badass motherf*ckers. Eredin and Co would have made Solas, Abelas and the other Ancient Elves look like pansy wimps. Avallac'h doesn't need a magic 8 ball to do impressive magical feats.

 

TW3 has better villains than DAI. Eredin is far superior to Corypheus.

 

TW3 allows you to play the in-world card game (Gwent) but DAI restrict Wicked Grace to a single cutscene to get Cullen naked.

 

TW3 does mounts and mount riding far better than DAI.

 

TW3 does recurring characters and cameos far better than DAI. Vernon Broche is there because of the story, Letho is there because of the story, Sile de Tanserville is there because of the story, not because of shoehorning.

 

TW3 has better songs than DAI. The Wolven Storm makes Maryden's lyrics look cheap.

 

TW3's Skellige is far superior to DAI's Frostback Avvar.

 

TW3 tackled social issues far better than DAI, thanks to the lack of politically correct nonsense. You actually see the oppression of non-Humans and mages in TW3 compared to the implied stuff in DAI.

 

TW3 did romances better than DAI.

 

I can keep going on and on and on...The reality is that CDPR made Bioware look a a bunch of rank amateurs fumbling around with crayons (politically correct crayons) while they crafted a masterpiece of RPG gaming.


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Hear me out.

 

*snip*

 

I can keep going on and on and on...The reality is that CDPR made Bioware look a a bunch of rank amateurs fumbling around with crayons (politically correct crayons) while they crafted a masterpiece of RPG gaming.

That list is mostly preferences, not facts. A few are, but most of what you listed is subjective or not even really comparable because different universes. 


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Hear me out.


I can keep going on and on and on...The reality is that CDPR made Bioware look a a bunch of rank amateurs fumbling around with crayons (politically correct crayons) while they crafted a masterpiece of RPG gaming.

 

Sounds like there's a lot of fanboy/girl-ing and butthurt going on here.

 

A lot of what you've said can't be accurately measured in terms of quality, and comes down to personal preference/favouritism.


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Get back to me when CDPR make a game where I don't have to play as bloody Geralt of Rivia.


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