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[Lezio]

A lot of the reason Corypheus was SO WEAK was because they wrote him to be developed through what his forces did on the field. We would witness his Templars or Venatori exercising his strength by proxy, vying for fortresses and whatnot.

Cutting those things out stripped him of effectively all substance. There were probably going to be even more Corypheus cut scenes, triggered by the activities related to these fortresses, too.

 

It's really a shame that, lately, with BW it's always what could have been

 

-DAI NPC are most of the time fetch quest givers who stand there like blocks of static wall there is no element of realism in them

 

-You wound DAI at least save Flemeth.

 

What about Morrigan? .-. She was, probably, the highlight of the main game, for me. Also, Sera was quite nice too
 

[Addictress]

Corypheus was a character in DA2 after that he became just a plot device.

He was just a dumb pick, through and through. It was nifty for a DLC. But I don't see why they chose him for a main game.

Anyways, with that dumb choice irreversible, I probably would've felt better about it if they fleshed out the vying for fortresses and stuff.

[Addictress]

It's really a shame that, lately, with BW it's always what could have been

DA:I is the only one for me. I count DA2 a masterpiece and I have no problems with ME3 except for the melee swords

[straykat]

I don't know. Witcher consistently kept my interest. I veer from disgust to falling asleep with DAI... with the occassional wow moment. I don't think it's the old consoles' fault. It's just not very stimulating, by design.

[mrs_anomaly]

I have TW3 on my PS4 and I have DAI on XB1. I think the games are not completely worth comparing due to all the differences rather than similarities they exhibit but the comparisons are going to be made forever just like with the Elder Scrolls series (which I also play Skyrim and ESO). 

 

I couldn't even play TW3 because it made me sick, literally, I got motion sickness and had to take tylenol and lay down for a few hours everytime I attempted. So there's that huge minus for me LOL. 

 

I've read the books for the Witcher series AND the DA series and they are completely different universes with an entirely different feeling. I personally think that the WT3 game has higher quality for a lot of aspects but it would never beat DAI for my love due to a the things that remain important for me.

 

So you can argue one way or another that TW3 is "a better game" but that doesn't mean that "the better game" is going to strictly appeal to the DAI fanbase. Quantitative differences are not going to sway a huge portion if die hard fans one way or another from either game imo. 

 

There are plenty of things in the DA series that I can never get in TW3 series and that's just the way it is up to and including creating my individual characters and stories/and interactions. 

 

Plus playing as a man is not my cup of tea. 

[Abyss108]

Agreed. The Witcher is not a game I want to touch. I've been told that I should give it a go but it's not for me. I don't want to spend hours and hours forced to play as a man. I'm also really turned off by the prior games skeevy card collection of women the character has been with. I know that aspect was given the boot but I'm just not confident that the developers won't offend me in other ways. I dunno, the entire game just screams "written with a male perspective in mind". My money is better spent with developers that I trust to take my perspective into account.

 

Exactly.

[straykat]

I have TW3 on my PS4 and I have DAI on XB1. I think the games are not completely worth comparing due to all the differences rather than similarities they exhibit but the comparisons are going to be made forever just like with the Elder Scrolls series (which I also play Skyrim and ESO). 

 

I couldn't even play TW3 because it made me sick, literally, I got motion sickness and had to take tylenol and lay down for a few hours everytime I attempted. So there's that huge minus for me LOL. 

 

I've read the books for the Witcher series AND the DA series and they are completely different universes with an entirely different feeling. I personally think that the WT3 game has higher quality for a lot of aspects but it would never beat DAI for my love due to a the things that remain important for me.

 

So you can argue one way or another that TW3 is "a better game" but that doesn't mean that "the better game" is going to strictly appeal to the DAI fanbase. Quantitative differences are not going to sway a huge portion if die hard fans one way or another from either game imo. 

 

There are plenty of things in the DA series that I can never get in TW3 series and that's just the way it is up to and including creating my individual characters and stories/and interactions. 

 

Plus playing as a man is not my cup of tea. 

 

I get motion sickness on some games too. It sucks. I can never tell what it is or which type of game does it though, for me. Or maybe it's the state I was in at the time.

 

I don't understand not wanting to play as a man. i've played plenty of female characters.. I barely think anything of it. Not when I'm forced to.

 

That said, I'll welcome CDProjekt expanding to more flexible settings.

[mrs_anomaly]

I motion sickness on some games too. It sucks. I can never tell what it is or which type of game does it though, for me. Or maybe it's the state I was in at the time.

 

Yeah usually it's mostly first person POV that does it for me but I was hoping that TW3 being 3rd person POV would be fine. So now I know it just isn't 1st person POV for this issue 

 

Sucks when you don't know beforehand though! Now I just get to youtube the entire game 

[Addictress]

Agreed. The Witcher is not a game I want to touch. I've been told that I should give it a go but it's not for me. I don't want to spend hours and hours forced to play as a man. I'm also really turned off by the prior games skeevy card collection of women the character has been with. I know that aspect was given the boot but I'm just not confident that the developers won't offend me in other ways. I dunno, the entire game just screams "written with a male perspective in mind". My money is better spent with developers that I trust to take my perspective into account.

As a straight female my anger at the male perspective and stupid representation of bimbo manic pixie dream girls was greatly ameliorated by my crush on Geralt, who is rly hot and mostly alone the entire game , and you stare at him. Alone.

Anyone else who isn't straight female or male should understandably want to steer clear of the game.

Btw in Dragon Age 4 I hope we can play Wicked Grace like that card system in tw3

[mrs_anomaly]

I get motion sickness on some games too. It sucks. I can never tell what it is or which type of game does it though, for me. Or maybe it's the state I was in at the time.

 

I don't understand not wanting to play as a man. i've played plenty of female characters.. I barely think anything of it. Not when I'm forced to.

 

That said, I'll welcome CDProjekt expanding to more flexible settings.

 

Well most games have male PC's. 

 

This just means you are more flexible than myself   I have played games where the PC is a man but it's not my preference at all. Just a thing for me. I don't judge or begrudge others their ability to enjoy other things 

[straykat]

Yeah usually it's mostly first person POV that does it for me but I was hoping that TW3 being 3rd person POV would be fine. So now I know it just isn't 1st person POV for this issue 

 

Sucks when you don't know beforehand though! Now I just get to youtube the entire game 

 

I think for 3rd person, it's usually something surreal for me. Like Psychonauts made me sick.

[maia0407]

I don't understand not wanting to play as a man. i've played plenty of female characters.. I barely think anything of it. Not when I'm forced to.

That said, I'll welcome CDProjekt expanding to more flexible settings.

I'm okay with playing as a man in games like Zelda and Mario, although there's a rumor that the new Zelda might finally offer the option to play as a woman named Linkle. Not fond of the name, btw, as it makes me think of tinkle... and yeah. But both of those games aren't RPGs with characters that I'm relating to on a somewhat deeper level.

There's also the glaring issue that men aren't forced to play as a woman very often. Most games have a set male protagonist and sometimes an option for a woman. I go out of my way to support games that represent me as I want to see more of those games on the market. Additionally, games that write primarily for straight guys tend to have content that just turns me away as I'm just not really into the "ohhhh, boobies" mentality that permeates so many of those games. I'm just not spending my money on it. Why give money to developers that haven't shown that they care about what I want to see?

[straykat]

I'm okay with playing as a man in games like Zelda and Mario, although there a rumor that the new Zelda might finally offer the option to play as a woman named Linkle. Not fond of the name, btw, as it makes me think of tinkle... and yeah. But both of those games aren't RPGs with characters that I'm relating to on a somewhat deeper level.

There also the glaring issue that men aren't forced to play as a woman very often. Most games have a set male protagonist and sometimes an option for a woman. I go out of my way to support games that represent me as I want to see more of those games on the market. Additionally, games that write primarily for straight guys tend to have content that just turns me away as I'm just not really into the "ohhhh, boobies" mentality that permeates so many of those games. I'm just not spending my money on it. Why give money to developers that haven't shown that they care about what I want to see?

 

No, they're not RPGs. And I wasn't referring to RPGs specifically. I understand if you want to customize characters. What I had in mind was like... Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, etc.. I'd happily play those over many games with dudes in them. Just because they're more fun. The only RPGs strictly female off the top of my head are the last Final Fantasies. They're OK too. Not my favorites, but I didn't hate them. I liked Lightning though.

[Secret Rare]

I know. Crazy, right? Sadly also some people have to "win" and prove that they are "right".

Ï don't liké thé Witcher séries however regardless of opinions and perspectives when something is worth of enlever de chapeau because it is done better in terms of quality than it is simply  better as a product from a technical point of view compared to the other one.

This is perceived regardless of tastes.

[Addictress]

I'm okay with playing as a man in games like Zelda and Mario, although there a rumor that the new Zelda might finally offer the option to play as a woman named Linkle. Not fond of the name, btw, as it makes me think of tinkle... and yeah. But both of those games aren't RPGs with characters that I'm relating to on a somewhat deeper level.

There's also the glaring issue that men aren't forced to play as a woman very often. Most games have a set male protagonist and sometimes an option for a woman. I go out of my way to support games that represent me as I want to see more of those games on the market. Additionally, games that write primarily for straight guys tend to have content that just turns me away as I'm just not really into the "ohhhh, boobies" mentality that permeates so many of those games. I'm just not spending my money on it. Why give money to developers that haven't shown that they care about what I want to see?

Yeah I know what u mean but those scenes with boobs and female objectification are few. You are missing a lot not playing. There is much, much more to it.

Sry don't want to talk about tw3 too much on this forum but I couldn't let a soul go on in this cultural poverty.

Bioware is still my fave as I live and breathe

[maia0407]

Yeah I know what u mean but those scenes with boobs and female objectification are few. You are missing a lot not playing. There is much, much more to it.
Sry don't want to talk about tw3 too much on this forum but I couldn't let a soul go on in this cultural poverty.
Bioware is still my fave as I live and breathe

Ive been told there's a lot to like about TW3 and there are probably aspects I would like. But, when I think about where I want to spend my gaming dollars and gaming time, I always come down on the side of supporting developers that have my back. CDPR hasn't really shown me anything that makes me think that I should support them. I don't begrudge anyone else their game. It's just not for me.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 

 

What about Morrigan? .-. She was, probably, the highlight of the main game, for me. Also, Sera was quite nice too
 

Flemeth is the original painting while Morrigan just the distorted  imitation of it.

[Reznore57]

Actually the romance in Witcher 3 are far more sappy/cheesy/romantic than romances in DAI , people would be surprised.

[Gileadan]

Different tastes and preferences in gaming completely aside, I doubt that even with the console related constraints removed that BioWare would have had a hope to play in the same league as CDP:R. I have played both games, and it's glaringly obvious which dev team is technically more adept and also puts way more effort into post launch support.

 

For example, I don't think it is due to console limitations that side quests in DA:I are so poorly done and samey - cheap side quests have been a "feature" in BioWare games ever since DA2.  I also wouldn't blame consoles for BioWare's apparent inability to ever really fix the banter bug, or just small things like your companions walking in circles while the Inquisitor has a conversation.

 

Even if you completely dislike its content and characters (which is totally fine), TW3 is still a game that leaves the impression that tremendous effort was put into many, many details.

DA:I, not so much. In this aspect, which in my opinion is quite important when it comes to overall game quality, BioWare and CDP:R play in so vastly different leagues that if BioWare's league were to explode, CDP:R wouldn't even hear it.

[Abyss108]

I don't understand not wanting to play as a man. i've played plenty of female characters.. I barely think anything of it. Not when I'm forced to.

 

 

Most games do let you play a male character, the ones that don't are the exception. 

 

That's different to when:

 

- 90% of games don't let you play a character like yourself, even when a game is about playing as your own designed character. 

- When you do get the option to play a character like yourself, it's always as an afterthought and feels inferior e.g. male animations used, weird clothing, dialogue bugs referring to you as a guy, extra content if you are a guy, things that don't quite fit for a female character. You pay the same money for the game, but just get a slightly worse experience in all areas.

- If you point this out, people just tell you it's not aimed at you, just make your own game if you don't like it.

- The games that have a female protagonist usually have good male characters in them as well. As opposed to a lot of games where the women are just there to be sexy.

 

You would probably feel differently if every single game forced you to be a female character, all the male characters were just insulting stereotypes there for sex appeal, and every time you mentioned this, you got told to shut up about it and that games just weren't for you.

 

Things are a lot better now than they used to be in all these areas, but a lot of us grew up with no game options other than the above. So we're a little sick of not having the option by this point.

[Addictress]

Different tastes and preferences in gaming completely aside, I doubt that even with the console related constraints removed that BioWare would have had a hope to play in the same league as CDP:R. I have played both games, and it's glaringly obvious which dev team is technically more adept and also puts way more effort into post launch support.

For example, I don't think it is due to console limitations that side quests in DA:I are so poorly done and samey - cheap side quests have been a "feature" in BioWare games ever since DA2. I also wouldn't blame consoles for BioWare's apparent inability to ever really fix the banter bug, or just small things like your companions walking in circles while the Inquisitor has a conversation.

Even if you completely dislike its content and characters (which is totally fine), TW3 is still a game that leaves the impression that tremendous effort was put into many, many details.
DA:I, not so much. In this aspect, which in my opinion is quite important when it comes to overall game quality, BioWare and CDP:R play in so vastly different leagues that if BioWare's league were to explode, CDP:R wouldn't even hear it.

I unfortunately have to agree. But I will say Dragon Age has one thing better than the others.

World-building.

The ice elves and Vernon Roche and Skellige and the diverse creatures.....something about them lack the obsessive intensity of Thedas. I'm not particularly fascinated with Ciri to the extent I am with Mythal's true motivations, the return of the Dread Wolf, Mages vs Templars and slavery.

Which makes me even angrier when there are technological fumbles or development shortcomings (like some dumb EA guy insisting on PS3) because I secretly believe that they sit on a priceless egg of amazing lore and world-building which would blow anything else out of the water given some proper C++

[Dutch's Ghost]

Agreed. The Witcher is not a game I want to touch. I've been told that I should give it a go but it's not for me. I don't want to spend hours and hours forced to play as a man. I'm also really turned off by the prior games skeevy card collection of women the character has been with. I know that aspect was given the boot but I'm just not confident that the developers won't offend me in other ways. I dunno, the entire game just screams "written with a male perspective in mind". My money is better spent with developers that I trust to take my perspective into account.

SJW detected.

[Gileadan]

I unfortunately have to agree. But I will say Dragon Age has one thing better than the others.

World-building.

The ice elves and Vernon Roche and Skellige and the diverse creatures.....something about them lack the obsessive intensity of Thedas. I'm not particularly fascinated with Ciri to the extent I am with Mythal's true motivations, the return of the Dread Wolf, Mages vs Templars and slavery.

Which makes me even angrier when there are technological fumbles or development shortcomings (like some dumb EA guy insisting on PS3) because I secretly believe that they sit on a priceless egg of amazing lore and world-building which would blow anything else out of the water given some proper C++

Oh, I agree that BioWare is quite adept at world building, and it is only logical that they claim that the Dragon Age series is about the world of Thedas and not about a single player character. They have certainly built an interesting universe with lots of things to discover and lots of stories to experience in.

 

Their technological... eh, shall we say mis-steps... have a long, long history. I remember back in the days of Baldur's Gate 2 I downloaded a fix for the Jaheira romance, made by a modder, not by BioWare (they later integrated the fixes into an official patch though), and in the accompanying text file, that modder had described what the problem was. It wasn't even coding mistakes, it was a logical error in planning the code for the romance. Some of the triggers were based on time passed in the game world, others on real time passed while playing. If you didn't rest as often as the code expected you would, those triggers would run out of sync and freeze the romance for good (you never got another conversation).

 

...that probably wasn't any consolation.

[mrs_anomaly]

SJW detected.

 

*gags* 

 

Can we not avoid these labels? 

[Lezio]

I unfortunately have to agree. But I will say Dragon Age has one thing better than the others.

World-building.

The ice elves and Vernon Roche and Skellige and the diverse creatures.....something about them lack the obsessive intensity of Thedas. I'm not particularly fascinated with Ciri to the extent I am with Mythal's true motivations, the return of the Dread Wolf, Mages vs Templars and slavery.

Which makes me even angrier when there are technological fumbles or development shortcomings (like some dumb EA guy insisting on PS3) because I secretly believe that they sit on a priceless egg of amazing lore and world-building which would blow anything else out of the water given some proper C++

 

The bolded part, mostly

It's just a shame that the conflict that had been builded up since Origins is treated in Inquisition like "Eh, yeah, now it's over, move along citizen". But it probably goes back to the mostly empty landscapes. In TW3 i genuinely started disliking the Black Ones from the get-go because CDPR made an awesome job of showcasing the horrors of war without actually showing the war itself, they made us see the consequences of it. In Inquisition it's just codex and letters around the Hinterlands.... meh