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[Loufi]

That's because of the Executioner. Nobody likes playing Russian roulette with enemies.

(although I use it sometimes on my Claymore build human infiltrator).

I've already heard about hit detection problems with the Executioner, but never had this issue myself. It's a great gun on spammers with anti-shields abilities, especially on the Turian sentinel (enough weapon damage bonus to reliably one-hit kill humanoid enemies). On infiltrators I would prefer the Claymore, to benefit more from the Tactical Cloak damage bonus. 

[DisturbedPsic0]

I've already heard about hit detection problems with the Executioner, but never had this issue myself. 

Me either, I actually like the gun when I use it, but it's not a gun I use when I'm not sure what to use, if that makes sense.

[Loufi]

Me either, I actually like the gun when I use it, but it's not a gun I use when I'm not sure what to use, if that makes sense.

Sure, it's more a niche gun than a Jack of all trades.

[Lux Caelum]

I've already heard about hit detection problems with the Executioner, but never had this issue myself. It's a great gun on spammers with anti-shields abilities, especially on the Turian sentinel (enough weapon damage bonus to reliably one-hit kill humanoid enemies). On infiltrators I would prefer the Claymore, to benefit more from the Tactical Cloak damage bonus.

I cant think of any kit where I would go for Executioner instead of Arc pistol or Talon, Saber, or Wraith. Might be just mine genuine dislike for most of the pistols in the game (or in any other game really).

But I do enjoy it on Human Infiltrator because Sticky bug to same extent and it is good gun for him when I don't want to use Claymore.

And yeah, I experienced that hit detection with TSent, SalInf, and SalEng. It can be really frustrating, real joy killer - enough to use it mostly when needed for challenge.

[Loufi]

I cant think of any kit where I would go for Executioner instead of Arc pistol or Talon, Saber, or Wraith. Might be just mine genuine dislike for most of the pistols in the game (or in any other game really).

But I do enjoy it on Human Infiltrator because Sticky bug to same extent and it is good gun for him when I don't want to use Claymore.

And yeah, I experienced that hit detection with TSent, SalInf, and SalEng. It can be really frustrating, real joy killer - enough to use it mostly when needed for challenge.

It's basically true for all weapons, as 3/4 of the guns you quoted (Arc pistol, Talon and Wraith) form a trio of almost perfect weapons that you could put on any kit and perform greatly whatever the mission. This is also true for SMGs (no real reason to not pick Hurricane or CSMG regarding pure efficiency), sniper rifles (BW, Javelin)... But using constantly the same pool of 10-12 weapons would become quickly boring.   

[frank_is_crank]

hit detection problems with the Executioner,

 

Holy sh!t, I thought it was just me missing head shots... I know now what to blame in the future.

 

This is one of my favorite builds for QFE with Executioner. Your turret will easy outscore some weak pugs on it's own.

[Bud Halen]

It's basically true for all weapons, as 3/4 of the guns you quoted (Arc pistol, Talon and Wraith) form a trio of almost perfect weapons that you could put on any kit and perform greatly whatever the mission. This is also true for SMGs (no real reason to not pick Hurricane or CSMG regarding pure efficiency), sniper rifles (BW, Javelin)... But using constantly the same pool of 10-12 weapons would become quickly boring.   

 

A scoped Executioner is the only spike-damage sniper I really liked to use in this game...and yes, I do consider it a sniper weapon.  Much lighter, way faster reloads, hits a bit harder than a single BW shot, and NO hip-fire penalty BS.  I also think that I've been fortunate enough to mostly avoid the hit-detection issues (the Crusader fills that niche for me).

 

It's also my go-to ranged weapon of choice for my typical Shepard load out -- as a backup the OP BPP in SP.

 

Then again I've also been known to enjoy using the Indra, Phaeston, & Disciple.  Plus my answer to the High Lord vs Wraith conflict is an easy one:  AT-12!  #Raiduh4Lyfe

[Bud Halen]

Holy sh!t, I thought it was just me missing head shots... I know now what to blame in the future.

 

This is one of my favorite builds for QFE with Executioner. Your turret will easy outscore some weak pugs on it's own.

 

So the power amps are mostly to boost the turret, namely the missiles, as much as possible?  That's 1100 in damage...daaayyamn.

 

Sure Incinerate enjoys the boost too.  But dem missiles.

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

Is there any other way to get gold for pugging?

[Terminator Force]

Terrible. 

 

Again tried to play no fitness GE Hornet with cyclonic 3, and again the all go to waste because I end up in GIP matches or lobbies I don't want to be in. So I switch to Justicar Hornet just so I don't have to worry about wasting the better consumables, but I end up in slideshow of a Goddess match. Since I haven't played in a few days, I haven't adjusted to such a low frame so the whole match I felt like a drunk that also couldn't aim or keep track of where all enemies where. That one clutch I had drained me of all ops and gels. Unheard of.

[akots1]

I've already heard about hit detection problems with the Executioner, but never had this issue myself. .... 

I've also heard from people who come from Xbox to PC that it works reliably on consoles. But when they try it on PC, half of the shots off host are blanks. Maybe this hit detection issue is related to frame rate. For me, on host, at 60 fps, about a third of shots are blanks regardless of distance, good or bad aim, and anything else. It looks like the sound and animations are played but the bullet/charge is not fired like that frame is skipped completely. It does not look like hit detection, it looks like blank that never leaves the barrel. There is no way to miss a brute at 3 meters and two more brutes behind the first one with drill ammo on host.

[Bud Halen]

I've also heard from people who come from Xbox to PC that it works reliably on consoles. But when they try it on PC, half of the shots off host are blanks. Maybe this hit detection issue is related to frame rate. For me, on host, at 60 fps, about a third of shots are blanks regardless of distance, good or bad aim, and anything else. It looks like the sound and animations are played but the bullet/charge is not fired like that frame is skipped completely. It does not look like hit detection, it looks like blank that never leaves the barrel. There is no way to miss a brute at 3 meters and two more brutes behind the first one with drill ammo on host.

 

This could account for my enjoyment of the weapon.  But I didn't get around to using it much on PC to compare.  I did try it on my ACA not too long and seemed to struggle, but I thought it was me being scrubby/rusty.

[Lux Caelum]

It's basically true for all weapons, as 3/4 of the guns you quoted (Arc pistol, Talon and Wraith) form a trio of almost perfect weapons that you could put on any kit and perform greatly whatever the mission. This is also true for SMGs (no real reason to not pick Hurricane or CSMG regarding pure efficiency), sniper rifles (BW, Javelin)... But using constantly the same pool of 10-12 weapons would become quickly boring.

I agree with that fully.
I appreciate the fact that most guns have character, its own thing if you will. And I was talking from the point of hard hitting single shot weapons (or low firerate).

Hell, I even enjoy Spitfire because it is got his own thing. I just hate when a bug or whatever is standing in the way of using the gun and enjoying it.

Dunno if it is just me, bit I tried it on HumInf and it worked on him (after not working with several characters). Ever since then I actually like the gun. But as you said, it is more of a niche market. Not really something I would play when I have no idea what to play.

[Asari Goddess]

Terrible. 

 

Again tried to play no fitness GE Hornet with cyclonic 3, and again the all go to waste because I end up in GIP matches or lobbies I don't want to be in. So I switch to Justicar Hornet just so I don't have to worry about wasting the better consumables, but I end up in slideshow of a Goddess match. Since I haven't played in a few days, I haven't adjusted to such a low frame so the whole match I felt like a drunk that also couldn't aim or keep track of where all enemies where, That one clutch I had drained me of all ops and gels. Unheard of.

 

That sounded like you had quite a rough night with the Justicar huh sinful?

[DisturbedPsic0]

Updated OP with TSent Executioner video. Was quite fun actually, minus the one phantom tagging me out halfway through wave 6  

[MrBSN2017]

Just start playing with better players. You'll start picking up tidbits as you go. Best of luck N7

[DisturbedPsic0]

Updated OP with Destroyer Argus gameplay. TSent Executioner idea sparked a new "Welcome to the Gun Show" series on my channel, featuring underused or under appreciated weapons.

[TheTechnoTurian]

Destroyer Argus

 

It's a kalence link to the build instead of the video 

[DisturbedPsic0]

It's a kalence link to the build instead of the video 

It sure was   Fixed now.

[DisturbedPsic0]

Updated OP with Batarian Slasher gameplay.

[Stinky3377]

Updated OP with Batarian Slasher gameplay.

Love this character.  I just started playing gold with him...sans lash though.

[DisturbedPsic0]

Love this character.  I just started playing gold with him...sans lash though.

I used to play him the same way, then the only cooldown you care about is warp. Just feels more like an adept this way though. Also gives me a ranged biotic boom on non armored targets, which can be nice. Also, helps control phantoms, which are the bane of his existence. 

[Stinky3377]

Also, helps control phantoms, which are the bane of his existence. 

 I'll check tonight but I think I just use the reeger to pwn them.

[DisturbedPsic0]

Updated OP with QMI Krysae gameplay.

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

Seen a  alot of gold digging pugs over this weekend...none equip anything..not even the gear slot.......