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A quick question.... After the inquistor drinks from the well of sorrows....


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Lord Raijin

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Does he become like Anders after fusing himself with Justice? An abomination?



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No. The Inquisitor is not possessed by a spirit; they are still the same individual, albeit with a collection of ancient elven knowledge rattling around in their head.

But they are now Mythal's slave, and must obey any command she gives. This is a magical compulsion that cannot be resisted.

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It may be true that we are not quite sure what the Well of Sorrows is, but its pretty safe to say that it is not a simple spirit. The only things we know for certain is that the Well is how the former priests passed down their knowledge (how this process works is unknown), that this knowledge can apparently take the form of "voices" and that it supposedly binds one to the "Will of Mythal".

 

Being an abomination implies that a spirit has taken possession of the Inquisitor, and as far as we can tell the Well of Sorrows does not fall into that classification. It may be true that several spirits may be tied to it, or maybe bits of Mythal or parts of the former priests may reside in it, but the well by and large seems to be little more than a repository of knowledge and memory, with no distinct will of its own other than what Mythal dictates and its base 'hunger' that the Inquisitor may pick up on.

 

But I can see where you get the idea. That figure that arose from the well does remind someone of spirit, and the fact that it has voices can imply some sort of sentience on the well's part.


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No. The Inquisitor is not possessed by a spirit; they are still the same individual, albeit with a collection of ancient elven knowledge rattling around in their head.

But they are now Mythal's slave, and must obey any command she gives. This is a magical compulsion that cannot be resisted.

 

I'm curious though as to whether or not this bond died with Flemeth or did it transfer to Solas. If the former, then the Inquisitor basically got off scot-free and got bonus elven knowledge. If the latter, well that might make things difficult. 



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No. The Inquisitor is not possessed by a spirit; they are still the same individual, albeit with a collection of ancient elven knowledge rattling around in their head.

But they are now Mythal's slave, and must obey any command she gives. This is a magical compulsion that cannot be resisted.

 

I have wondered about this point. if Mythal was killed by Solas as it seemed he did, then shouldn't he have just been able to "command away" the Inquisitor in Trespasser? He obviously has no control over her (the Inquisitor) mentally so does this suggest Flemeth/Mythal survived as her on entity as she did in DA2 with the locket or some other similar trick?



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I'm not entirely sure about the sentience of the Well.   The Inquisitor can actually say that the geas is through the priests, loyal to Mythal, imposing their will upon the drinker.   Also if Cole is with you he definitely advises against drinking from it because you wouldn't want those voices in your head, which makes it sound as if he feels it is more than just memories.   I wonder if it wouldn't have nasty repercussions down the line if the implications of drinking from it were taken to their logical conclusion but it is more likely going to be like the dark ritual; you think there are going to be bad consequences but it turns out to be nothing significant.

 

If the priests are loyal to Mythal then they would only respond to Solas if Mythal is now a part of his consciousness, like Flemeth, and so they can sense her.   Otherwise, if he has just absorbed something of her power without any of her identity, then they will probably ignore any command that he makes.     



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I have wondered about this point. if Mythal was killed by Solas as it seemed he did, then shouldn't he have just been able to "command away" the Inquisitor in Trespasser? He obviously has no control over her (the Inquisitor) mentally so does this suggest Flemeth/Mythal survived as her on entity as she did in DA2 with the locket or some other similar trick?

Or the Well only compels the Vessel to obey Mythal specifically.

He stole her power, not her identity.
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No. The Inquisitor is not possessed by a spirit; they are still the same individual, albeit with a collection of ancient elven knowledge rattling around in their head.

But they are now Mythal's slave, and must obey any command she gives. This is a magical compulsion that cannot be resisted.

How it is possible for knowledge to survive while being a whisper without it's original owner?
I believed that the servants of Mythal decided to give themselves to the well with their own perspective and belief not just their knowledge.
If the owner will ask to the voices who is Ghilanain they will most likely answer with their own bias about her or any other historical event.

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I'm curious though as to whether or not this bond died with Flemeth or did it transfer to Solas. If the former, then the Inquisitor basically got off scot-free and got bonus elven knowledge. If the latter, well that might make things difficult.

The bound is not with Flemeth is with Mythal, that being who was sent into the eluvian.
From what i understood from Solas the well endure so long as Mythal endure so the owner will always be a servant of Mythal.

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How it is possible for knowledge to survive while being a whisper without it's original owner?
I believed that the servants of Mythal decided to give themselves to the well with their own perspective and belief not just their knowledge.
If the owner will ask to the voices who is Ghilanain they will most likely answer with their own bias about her or any other historical event.

Possibly the same way the memories of the Vir Dirthara did: the memories and impressions stayed even though their creators are long dead, but the form they took (books) is only a reflection of how you best perceive them.

 

In this way, memories and knowledge can live on even if their original owner is long dead.



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You are a servant so long you use The Inquisitor.
The choice is irrelevant since with a new protagonist it will not matter.