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#26
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My theory, based on Last Flight, is that ...

 

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I can totally see my Warden kicking down the doors to Weisshaupt and going "Hi everyone! Where is my gryphon?"

 

My Warden wouldn't even ask. She'd just mount one and fly off. Who's gonna stop her? 



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My Warden wouldn't even ask. She'd just mount one and fly off. Who's gonna stop her?

The fact that those griffins are most likely still eggs, the fact that your warden doesn't even know that, the fact that all those Gw in their fortress can't be defeated by one single person, the fact that the warden is gone as a character ecc...
In short there are plenty of reasons.

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My Warden wouldn't even ask. She'd just mount one and fly off. Who's gonna stop her?


That's my Couslands approach to it... My Amells a bit on the nicer side of things, so she's gonna ask... But, my Cousland wouldn't ask, she'd mount one, before flying off, like yours would.

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I really though one of the DA:I DLC's was going to take place at Weisshaupt. I'm still miffed we never found out what happened to Hawke there and it got hand waved away by Trespasser.

 

So yes, I hope we finally get to see it in DA4. I don't think we've ever learned who the First Warden is right?



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Solas does not like the Wardens, do you think he caused trouble for them because they are a threat to his plans

 

Obviously. Since the Archdemons carry a piece of each Evanuris' soul inside them.

 

And since Solas has lived for thousands of years and knows about the secret of effective immortality, we can assume one of the 7 dragons has a piece of HIS soul.

 

The Wardens kill the beast and poof. Solas is mortal once again.



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Obviously. Since the Archdemons carry a piece of each Evanuris' soul inside them.

 

And since Solas has lived for thousands of years and knows about the secret of effective immortality, we can assume one of the 7 dragons has a piece of HIS soul.

 

The Wardens kill the beast and poof. Solas is mortal once again.

Are you actually stating that Solas has made horcruxes and could very well be Lord Voldemorte!


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Obviously. Since the Archdemons carry a piece of each Evanuris' soul inside them.

And since Solas has lived for thousands of years and knows about the secret of effective immortality, we can assume one of the 7 dragons has a piece of HIS soul.

The Wardens kill the beast and poof. Solas is mortal once again.


That's just a theory.

Besides, there are eight evanuris, and Solas is not one of them.
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The Grey Spawn were soo dumb in DAI and so easy to kill we should definitely lay siege to their fortress again so we can take their griffins for ourselves.

 

Plus they would be easy thralls to help in the fight against Solace.

 

The Maker wills it!



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The Old Gods are not the Evanuris. (sigh)
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The Old Gods are not the Evanuris. (sigh)

They could all be Mythal fragments scattered underground into dragon bodies.
But hey that's just a theory.


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I can't decide who are the bigger derps in this game series for continuing bad decisions by trying to short cut.  The Dalish or the Wardens?



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Nothing really adds up when it comes to the Wardens.   The writers conveniently overlooked the existence of Vigils' Keep and what the Warden had achieved there in both DAI and Trespasser.   When Teagan was going on about Sophie Dryden as an example of how Ferelden dealt with upstarts, I wanted to be able to say, how about our current Hero of Ferelden as an example of someone who was given temporal power and used it well (which would have been even more pertinent if it had in fact been the Orlesian Warden).

 

In Last Flight the wardens at Weissaupt seem have no idea what is going on down south, unless they do and that is why so much research is going on into earlier history and examples of blood magic, etc.

 

Then we have two oddities from DAI.    First there is the Warden, who is apparently off looking for a cure, unless they are in a romance with Leliana, in which case at the end of Trespasser they are back in Orlais, with no indication whether they found a cure or not.    Then there is Hawke/Stroud/Alistair/Loghain.   At the end of DAI it is said that all news out of Weisshaupt ceases not long after they got there, which seems sinister and does not bode well for them.    Then in Trespasser, when Varric is asked about Hawke, he has still had no news but jokes that they will likely turn up soon with destruction in their wake, only for Hawke to reappear in the epilogue with no other explanation of what occurred.    Were Varric's words a hint at what happened?   

 

With so many lose ends, it would be surprising if the Wardens weren't involved in some way in the next game.     With the main problem likely to be the war between Tevinter and the Qun, may be the new PC will be asked to travel to the Anderfels in order to seek allies for whichever faction they support, assuming that we are asked to choose a side and not just told that we need to save Tevinter.


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Then we have two oddities from DAI. First there is the Warden, who is apparently off looking for a cure, unless they are in a romance with Leliana, in which case at the end of Trespasser they are back in Orlais, with no indication whether they found a cure or not.

The Orlesian warden is not involved in this quest to search the cure,this mean that the HoF will not find it because BioWare will never split the lore in two parts for different world states.

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Are you actually stating that Solas has made horcruxes and could very well be Lord Voldemorte!

 

 

Reenactment of Solas and Inquisitor putting aside their differences and being friends again.

 

[awkward hug ensues]

 

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The Orlesian warden is not involved in this quest to search the cure,this mean that the HoF will not find it because BioWare will never split the lore in two parts for different world states.

The Orlesian Warden has no ties to Leliana (or any of the DAO LIs) therefore, there's no one at Skyhold who would know how to get in touch with him or her.

 

So it's entirely possible the OW also searched for a cure for the Calling



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The Orlesian Warden has no ties to Leliana (or any of the DAO LIs) therefore, there's no one at Skyhold who would know how to get in touch with him or her.

 

So it's entirely possible the OW also searched for a cure for the Calling

 

*Orlesian Warden checks voicemail* "You have...zero...new messages." "Sigh."


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The Orlesian warden is not involved in this quest to search the cure,this mean that the HoF will not find it because BioWare will never split the lore in two parts for different world states.


The Orlesian Warden can still take on Witch Hunt. So BioWare can have the OW find the cure as well, or simply have the cure appear via other means, like having Morrigan find it and take it to Weisshaupt.

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It true that the Grey Warden leader at Weisshaupt has his eye on the crown of Anderfes and Hawke and the Warden team up to stop it



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It true that the Grey Warden leader at Weisshaupt has his eye on the crown of Anderfes and Hawke and the Warden team up to stop it

 

Er, the first half of that sentence is true and the second half is speculation.



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Er, the first half of that sentence is true and the second half is speculation.

 

Thanks for verifying the first part as for the second well a person can dream


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Are you actually stating that Solas has made horcruxes and could very well be Lord Voldemorte!

 

Yep.  B)

 

That's just a theory.

Besides, there are eight evanuris, and Solas is not one of them.

 

I don't know how many Evanuris are there. Do you? What we do know is how many gods in the Elven Pantheon there are.

Big difference, there, don't you think? So much was lost after Arlathan's downfall. Care to wager not all Evanuris were accounted for? Or how many weren't considered gods, like their peers?

 

Why, we always assumed the Ancient elves were goners and then BAM! Sentinels in Mythal's Temple.

We assumed Arlathan was destroyed by Tevinter and BAM! Arlathan rulers did this to themselves.

We assumed all Magisters were evil and used blood magic and BAM! Dorian comes along.

 

And yep, it's just a hypothesis (I won't even call it a theory because it's hanging on a lot of suppositions), BUT it's based in one key fact: the dragons DID NOT teach magic to the Magisters. Dragons are irrational beasts. So whatever did it was inside that dragon. Remember, the Magisters heard voices. The dragons spoke to them. They obviously didn't talk. It was a mental connection.

 

Considering Corypheus learned everything from Dumat, then he learned how to control a dragon. And that same spell made him immortal. Now what does Solas have to say about Corypheus?

 

I did not expect a Magister knew the secret of effective immortality.

 

A mage from the time of Arlathan said that. The Evanuris were immortal. They couldn't be killed, only sealed away. A secret that involved tearing your soul apart and depositing a piece of it in another living creature. 

Therefore, who was it that knew that secret way before the Magisters? And who was it that could've taught them, in hushed whispers, heard only by those whose minds wander the Fade?

 

All assumptions, of course. But they fit together like links from a chain. 

 

 

 

(And then DA4 comes along, presents new and unexpected evidence and basically reduces all my arguments to BS.  :P After all, Bioware does tend to frustrate fan theories now and then.)


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Obviously. Since the Archdemons carry a piece of each Evanuris' soul inside them.

And since Solas has lived for thousands of years and knows about the secret of effective immortality, we can assume one of the 7 dragons has a piece of HIS soul.

The Wardens kill the beast and poof. Solas is mortal once again.


Corypheus was immortal before his dragon.

Oh and if they pull that bullshit again, I'm out forever. I would say it's the worst thing Bioware ever wrote, but the ME3 ending still exists.
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Leadership change is my explanation for the extremely jarring Hawke between end of DAI and end of trespasser. Trespasser seemed to be Weekes kicking Hawke into the long grass never to be seen again.  The epilogue annoyed me but at least there's less liklihood they'll decide to kill my Hawke offscreen.

I'd prefer to play a warden in a story focused around whatever is happening in Weisshaupt than shoehorn it into a tevinter/Qunari story.


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Leadership change is my explanation for the extremely jarring Hawke between end of DAI and end of trespasser. Trespasser seemed to be Weekes kicking Hawke into the long grass never to be seen again.  The epilogue annoyed me but at least there's less liklihood they'll decide to kill my Hawke offscreen.

I'd prefer to play a warden in a story focused around whatever is happening in Weisshaupt than shoehorn it into a tevinter/Qunari story.

 

I never understand why Hawk went to Weisshaupt when He/she said that Corypheus was they responsibility.I agree with a warden should be involved in the story about what happening in Weisshaupt or ( I know this is getting old) the HOF 
 



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I never understand why Hawk went to Weisshaupt when He/she said that Corypheus was they responsibility.I agree with a warden should be involved in the story about what happening in Weisshaupt or ( I know this is getting old) the HOF 
 

Hawk mentions that he feels responsible for what happens to the Wardens due to him not killing Corypheus and mentions that he will head over there and poke things with a pointy stick.