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[JadeDragon]

Hawk mentions that he feels responsible for what happens to the Wardens due to him not killing Corypheus and mentions that he will head over there and poke things with a pointy stick.

But doesnt that make Bioware kind of write themselves into a wall. If we ever play that Grey Warden Civil War Arc it would I assume take place before trespassers  and have to include the survivor of Here Lies the Abyss or else it would have made it seem like Hawke went there and did nothing then came back to kirkwall like everything is all good while the Wardens still having issues. not a good way to write a famed champion. The fact that if Hawke survived he canon went there and returned in one piece so if we do play whatever conflict is there and Hawke is alive Bioware would once again have to return Hawke and Hawke must survive.

[MrObnoxiousUK]

But doesnt that make Bioware kind of write themselves into a wall. If we ever play that Grey Warden Civil War Arc it would I assume take place before trespassers  and have to include the survivor of Here Lies the Abyss or else it would have made it seem like Hawke went there and did nothing then came back to kirkwall like everything is all good while the Wardens still having issues. not a good way to write a famed champion. The fact that if Hawke survived he canon went there and returned in one piece so if we do play whatever conflict is there and Hawke is alive Bioware would once again have to return Hawke and Hawke must survive.

Are you suggesting that Hawk could be some type of Chekov's gun in Weishaupt?

[Gervaise]

I think there really is no way now they can make the situation part of gameplay.   We have 3 different scenarios kicking around for Weisshaupt.   First is the one at the end of the main game, where regardless of who goes to Weisshaupt, there are rumours of trouble and then all news out of there ceases, including what happened to the person who went there, whether Hawke or Warden character.   The second is the situation in Last Flight, which concludes in 9:42 Dragon, so probably around the time that Hawke would be heading in that direction.   Nothing untoward seems to be happening at Warden HQ but the griffons have been discovered.  That fact alone you would think would be noteworthy, although I suppose the little group who find them could just take them off somewhere unknown to the rest of the Wardens.   Nevertheless, there seems nothing going on up there to suggest the major problems hinted at in the epilogue to the main game.   The last one is the situation at the end of Trespasser, two years down the line.    Varric has heard nothing from Hawke to indicate what is going on and then mysteriously Hawke reappears in the epilogue with no explanation given.   I suspect that the Warden situation should have been another DLC but the idea was shelved and it would now be very difficult to resurrect it because events have moved on    So any involvement of the Wardens at Weisshaupt in the next game will either ignore the plotline from Into the Abyss or downplay its significance.

[vbibbi]

I think there really is no way now they can make the situation part of gameplay.   We have 3 different scenarios kicking around for Weisshaupt.   First is the one at the end of the main game, where regardless of who goes to Weisshaupt, there are rumours of trouble and then all news out of there ceases, including what happened to the person who went there, whether Hawke or Warden character.   The second is the situation in Last Flight, which concludes in 9:42 Dragon, so probably around the time that Hawke would be heading in that direction.   Nothing untoward seems to be happening at Warden HQ but the griffons have been discovered.  That fact alone you would think would be noteworthy, although I suppose the little group who find them could just take them off somewhere unknown to the rest of the Wardens.   Nevertheless, there seems nothing going on up there to suggest the major problems hinted at in the epilogue to the main game.   The last one is the situation at the end of Trespasser, two years down the line.    Varric has heard nothing from Hawke to indicate what is going on and then mysteriously Hawke reappears in the epilogue with no explanation given.   I suspect that the Warden situation should have been another DLC but the idea was shelved and it would now be very difficult to resurrect it because events have moved on    So any involvement of the Wardens at Weisshaupt in the next game will either ignore the plotline from Into the Abyss or downplay its significance.

 

I really hope they don't just drop the plot or retcon it into oblivion. I think since the base game epilogue still mentions the strange situation in Weisshaupt, something will come of it. It's been built up too much now just to be dropped.

 

And I think Bioware heard the screams when they told us that the Architect had been planned to be in HLtA at one point. They know we want to have resolution to that.

[Nixou]

The Orlesian warden is not involved in this quest to search the cure

 

 

The Orlesian Warden is not mentioned. Not the same thing. Since, indeed, Bioware's writers have no reason to make their own job harder by splitting the lore, the more likely outcome is that when the cure quest is mentioned again in a future instalment, it will be stated in worldstates with the Orlesian Warden that s/he went to look for a cure, same as he surviving HoFs: makes everything easier.

 

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The Orlesian Warden has no ties to Leliana (or any of the DAO LIs) therefore, there's no one at Skyhold who would know how to get in touch with him or her.

 

 

Also, unlike the HoF, the Orlesian Commander wasn't on top of Justinia's short list for the job of Inquisitor.

 

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I'd prefer to play a warden in a story focused around whatever is happening in Weisshaupt than shoehorn it into a tevinter/Qunari story.

 

 

Seconded: I hope things don't get Wardeny at all in DA4: let's focus on the Tevinter-Qunari arc and bring back the Wardens when the next Blight begins (because, come on! unless the series is cancelled before its conclusion, we all know there will be another Blight before the grand finale)

 

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If we ever play that Grey Warden Civil War Arc it would I assume take place before trespassers

 

 

If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the Wardens' inner-conflict arc beginning after the conclusion of DA4, with the gap between the conclusion of Inquisition and the beginning of that arc being justified by saying that the Warden's conflict was until then more akin to a cold war that's just about to heat up. Hawke is then out of the picture, back in Kirkwall chilling with Varric, Aveline & co and his/her involvement can be kept as a secondary part of the backstory mentioned only in codex entries and a couple of dialogues and banters.