I just started Inquisition having never played it before and only playing Origins once years ago. And I'm at this point in the game where I feel sort of directionless. I fire up the game, Complete one maybe two quests and then exit. I'd like to finish the game and experience as much of the content as possible but it's getting hard. Am I doing something wrong or approaching the game in the wrong way? I don't want to rush through it. Help!
Losing the will to play
#1
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 07:02
#2
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 07:07
#3
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 07:09
A little more detail would help. Where are you in the game? What is your PC trying to accomplish?
At Sky Hold. Whole bunch of seeming endless zones to explore. PC is trying to beat the main baddie, are there other options?
#4
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 08:36
Well you don't have to do all those side quests if you don't want to. You can just stick to companion and main quests if that's more enjoyable.
#5
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 08:54
At Sky Hold. Whole bunch of seeming endless zones to explore. PC is trying to beat the main baddie, are there other options?
That's a very common complaint. Fighting through the zones doing relatively unimportant quests does get fatiguing after a while. Like Abyss said, you can skip most of it if you want and just do the meatier stuff, but my advice would be to suffer through it and do most or all of it on your first playthrough, that way you might run into something you find amusing and then know what you want to skip on another playthrough, if you do one. Up to you.
#6
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 09:04
Post Skyhold, Only Crestwood, Western Approach, and Halamshiral are required. The DLCs have their own Areas, and if chosen to do, the Quests from Leliana and Cullen (Dealing with Calpernia and Samson, respectively) Add only 3 more at most.
#7
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 09:35
The two biggest things are get to Skyhold and get out of the Hinterlands. Recruit your companions (Iron Bull, Sera, Blackwall and, Vivienne) before you leave Haven.) You will get either Cole or Dorian in the process of getting to Skyhold, depending on your choices. From there do what side quests you want, do companion (Inner Circle quest, and Inquisitor's path quests.) Inner circel give more insight into your companions and, the Inquisitor's path you have to do to finish the game, but those are good quests anyway. The rest are mostly to get you items or power and influence but, once you have enough of those, no reason to do all of the fetch or run around quests unless you are doing a completionist play through, you still see all of the areas and meet all of the important people.
#8
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 09:36
Some areas are completely optional and don't need to be done. If anything maybe take a small break and come back when you feel like you want to play again, I've done that before and it helps.
#9
Posté 23 avril 2016 - 12:26
At Sky Hold. Whole bunch of seeming endless zones to explore. PC is trying to beat the main baddie, are there other options?
I should have been clearer. I meant what specifically is your PC trying to do.
If you've just reached Skyhold, you've got essentially two options -- try to interfere with the assassination attempt or look into what's going on with the Grey Wardens. You probably need a bit more Power than you have to do either of these, so then the question becomes which of the available sidequests are best suited to your PC. Closing fade rifts is fast and easy if you just want to get on with it -- well, except for fulfilling a requisition if you've already got the required stuff.
Don't think too much about the zones.
#10
Posté 23 avril 2016 - 02:07
If you like the gameplay fine, but are looking for more interesting content to visit while you collect power and level up for the next story segment then I'd suggest:
- Follow the main plotline quest in Crestwood (the one where you meet a certain someone in a cave) and also do the main zone quest while you are there (you pick it up in Crestwood village)
- The Fallow Mire may be gloomy and full of undead, but if you push through the main zone quest there, it leads to a hilarious judgement scene later. (Hint: if you bring companions with ranged attacks, they will be less likely to blunder into the water and rouse the undead there)
- Pick up a few rifts and sidequests that happen to be on your way, and that should get you enough power for Adamant. The siege and what follows are quite interesting.
- Later, the main quest in Emprise du Lyon is cool (but you do have to pay power to unlock this optional zone)
- Most of the companions' personal quests are fun (not their silly approval-gain checklists, the real quests. You might have to grind approval to get them, however.)
If the core gameplay is boring you or you really want to see "everything" then I suggest:
- get your specialization ASAP as it can change up your battle tactics quite a bit. Consider respecing yourself and your companions
- consider trying out a different class to see if you like that better.
- consider buying Tresspasser for the skill upgrade toggles (but don't throw good money after bad if you aren't enjoying anything about the game)
If you aren't enjoying anything then:
Also consider that Skyhold is a good point to stop and decide if you are enjoying the game at all. This is usually where we tell people "play at least this far." So now you're here. Are you having fun? Adamant is pretty cool too, do you want to try to rush there or just quit and play something you like better?
- Ajensis et Cheviot aiment ceci
#11
Posté 23 avril 2016 - 03:48
If you like the gameplay fine, but are looking for more interesting content to visit while you collect power and level up for the next story segment then I'd suggest:
- Follow the main plotline quest in Crestwood (the one where you meet a certain someone in a cave) and also do the main zone quest while you are there (you pick it up in Crestwood village)
- The Fallow Mire may be gloomy and full of undead, but if you push through the main zone quest there, it leads to a hilarious judgement scene later. (Hint: if you bring companions with ranged attacks, they will be less likely to blunder into the water and rouse the undead there)
- Pick up a few rifts and sidequests that happen to be on your way, and that should get you enough power for Adamant. The siege and what follows are quite interesting.
- Later, the main quest in Emprise du Lyon is cool (but you do have to pay power to unlock this optional zone)
- Most of the companions' personal quests are fun (not their silly approval-gain checklists, the real quests. You might have to grind approval to get them, however.)
If the core gameplay is boring you or you really want to see "everything" then I suggest:
- get your specialization ASAP as it can change up your battle tactics quite a bit. Consider respecing yourself and your companions
- consider trying out a different class to see if you like that better.
- consider buying Tresspasser for the skill upgrade toggles (but don't throw good money after bad if you aren't enjoying anything about the game)
If you aren't enjoying anything then:
Also consider that Skyhold is a good point to stop and decide if you are enjoying the game at all. This is usually where we tell people "play at least this far." So now you're here. Are you having fun? Adamant is pretty cool too, do you want to try to rush there or just quit and play something you like better?
I was not very fond of the Fallow Mire. To me it was mostly one long grind through undead for minimal satisfaction when completed ... particularly on my 2nd playthrough.
My next playthrough I will probably not worry about shards, rifts, astrariums, song collections, alcohol collections, mosaic tiles, dragons, or finding all camps and regions, but rather mostly only do primary quests and important secondary quests. I will definitely try to avoid search party, florist or rancher duties.
But first I need to play Pillars of Eternity ...
#12
Posté 23 avril 2016 - 10:50
Maybe it is not that maybe you are just not in the mood to play Inquisition and that you are in the mood to play another game. I have that sometimes that i just don't want to play Inquisition but i'm just guessing here.
You just need to get that Dragon Age Inquisition fever and then you will have fun playing the game.
#13
Posté 23 avril 2016 - 06:47
Well you don't have to do all those side quests if you don't want to. You can just stick to companion and main quests if that's more enjoyable.
Yeah as Abyss says here. You don't need to do everything you only need to do enough to acquire power to progress. Fo rexample if you need 30 power points then just do enough missions to acquire the 30 power points. Tbh ther eis enough tasks ther that can leave you with over 200 points to spare even after unlocking everything so you don't have to do it all. Just do enough to unlock what you want to do.
#14
Posté 25 avril 2016 - 05:07
Here is the line that most stood out, from what you wrote (OP), "I'd like to finish the game and experience as much of the content as possible" This tells me that perhaps, you are feeling overwhelmed by it all. I take from that line, that you seek the full DAI experience but perhaps, at times, it may feel like there are too many options! Acks, screw it, log off. Ive been there, if thats what you are going through. As a life time RPG'r myself, a few tips specific to this game.
#1- Rather than logging onto play a game, log on to have an experience. You know how Disneyland is broken up into lands? Like Tomorrow Land, etc? Think of each zone as its own land, its own stand alone experience. Approach each land from that stand point. Where are the cool rides? What are the cool things to see? Ok, fine, but how to do that?
Right now, Im doing a lot of wandering in the Hissing Wastes, just started there. So i looked up the Hissing Wastes on Google, read a bunch of stuff, things to look for, BUT not any spoilers, I avoided them like the plague. I really like the topography of the wastes, the tombs intrigued me as did the dude that sells nice schematics. The very first time I landed in that zone, I decided to jump on my battle stallion and just focus on avoiding aggro and setting up camps. That kind of thing. Whenever I start wandering in a zone or am about to, I do a tiny bit of research to know what sparks my curiosity.
#2- Have a loosely defined focus to your logged in time. In the case of Hissing Wastes, from my example above, my first two priorities were to farm mats for my main party (Cass and Blackwell), and to see if that area merchant out in the middle of nowhere had any good schematics. So I focused just on the mountain ranges in the region, travelled only those.
When I ran into ore, I mined it. Any aggressive creature that had leather, I killed it. And any baddies in the ridges, I killed them (for their cotton and essences). The experience was very much of exploring, it was fun, while getting a ton of mats. I found the vendor, eventually, picked up three decent schmatics that added +100 armor to my main posse.
I had enough goods, so then the focus became messing around with crafting. Specifically, I wanted to craft the best possible heavy armor pieces I could make. I took my time and really played around with options. Thats all I focused on. After i got my two warriors re-outiftted, their armors tinted, I just wandered all the nooks and crannies of Skyhold because at this point- more rooms and people are appearing all the time. It made for a nice experience.
There are times when I only focus on my inner circle companion quests, or closing rifts. There are times when I only focus on dragon hunting or farming mats or tomb raiding. I mix it up and do my best to fully experience what every zone, every "land" and what it has to offer.
#3- This may sound silly, but if I know Im going really sink into the game for an extended period of time, loading up on real life food, the kind of food you really like, I have found helps. Nothing worse that wandering around, really getting into it, but you're starving! For evenings, I may grab a six pack, some decent tasting snacks, so again, I can take my time, no rush. I can sink into the zones.
I hope that helps!
- sjsharp2011 et Melbella aiment ceci
#15
Posté 25 avril 2016 - 06:46
I was not very fond of the Fallow Mire. To me it was mostly one long grind through undead for minimal satisfaction when completed ... particularly on my 2nd playthrough.
My next playthrough I will probably not worry about shards, rifts, astrariums, song collections, alcohol collections, mosaic tiles, dragons, or finding all camps and regions, but rather mostly only do primary quests and important secondary quests. I will definitely try to avoid search party, florist or rancher duties.
But first I need to play Pillars of Eternity ...
You burned yourself already, it's not a game for completionist play. if you aren't curious for more it's probably a dead end for you and you'll never come back to the game.
EDIT: PoE is a quite good game, probably with overall a more balanced quality than DAI, but it is small in comparison (or right size if you consider that DAI is too big) and not really better, DAI has multiple elements quite better but not all. PoE has also its elements better done. For me Dragonfall, Wasteland 2 and Divinity Original Sin are above both but those games aren't the same challenge than the mammoths, DAI, The Witcher 3, Skyrim and probably FO4 but I didn't played it yet.
I'd like to finish the game and experience as much of the content as possible but it's getting hard.
Totally wrong, this completionist play was a very very bad idea. Stop try do that, and pick only what's you feel fun at the time you play.
Here the main play thematics offered by the game and they offer different gameplays:
- The tourist explorer : Have the fun discover a new area, don't bother make any collections just let curiosity and sense of adventure and tourism lead you. During that parts just do a tiny bit of collecting avoid be systematic, eventually pick a quest or two but don't bother.
- Sneaky adventurer, that variant of exploration is more about get a thrill of danger than a thrill of discovery. The game isn't that great in that design element, but there are still some good sneaky exploration to do in some areas like Emerald Graves, Forbidden Oasis, Exalted Plains, Storm Coast, Emprise du Lion. For such gameplay the best is to give yourself the challenge to never use quick travel to escape a difficult situation where you put yourself, even if you save it will help the thrill.
- Explore relationships with companions and that include advisors and few more occasional other NPC at keep.
- Explore sometimes the keep to check the various NPC.
- Focus on global management, as soon as a global action is done go back to keep. During that time give yourself small objectives, a quest in this area another quest in this other area, eventually collect a few crystals (not collect them all), reach one camp (not find them all), and so on.
- Find yourself a quest that capture your curiosity. The major point is here isn't to do the quest to finish it asap but find a quest you enjoy do and follow. if the current doesn't work try another.
- A few time recapitulate what you can craft just avoid do it systematically only follow your own rhythm, if it's not fun don't do it.
- Give yourself a few combats challenges, I don't mean go kill a dragon, a variation would be pick a different team more challenging for you and try a few more difficult combats with that team variation.
EDIT2: About the quests, you must read the stuff carefully, if you don't you can't get their appeal from the little story. That's a terrible flaw of the game, I can't understand those amateurish design choices of all texts in uppercase (facepalm) and all texts presented inside a tiny window with a small width breaking each line in a ton of tiny lines (facepalm). Still with some effort you can go over that.
#16
Posté 27 avril 2016 - 03:32
My two cents as a completionist: I played several times and I found myself always trying to explore as much as I could before doing the main plot quests.
This has lead me to get bored at some point every single time, so I now force myself to alternate between exploration, main quest points and killing dragons.
There are many different things to do in the game so it should be relatively easy to do just change pace and start doing something completely different.
#17
Posté 08 mai 2016 - 12:24
Yeppers ! If there is anyone here knows where your AT....I do!
I started a thread just like this, and I did finally finish the game, I am a completionist as well..
Here is link to my help seeking thread http://forum.bioware.../#entry20047080
They are telling you right you have to just suck_It up, and turn off your competition-ist behavior, Believe me I know that is really hard, and you also have to ignore the parts of the story that make no sense, this whole game was based on a DLC I never played ( The plot really has nothing to do with a main game story ), and that just threw me a major loop right at the start.
I wish you luck, I know how it is to not finish something when it is in your nature to always finish what you start.
#18
Posté 08 mai 2016 - 03:36
Or just spec more into Willpower next time.
No, that's not a sarcastic tone, how could you think that of me?
- TagiDoll aime ceci
#19
Posté 10 mai 2016 - 03:57
It may just not be a game that resonates with you, which is fine. People play video games for vastly different reasons, so different games are going to click with different gamers. If you're not having fun, then I would suggest cutting your losses and playing something more in tune to your tastes. As someone mentioned, once you get to Skyhold, you pretty much know what the game has to offer. Dragon Age may be my favorite video game series by far, but it's simply not going to work for everyone.
#20
Posté 10 mai 2016 - 09:57
1. I was actually in every play-through doing pretty well, until I enter this totally alien area know as wicked Eye's & wicked hearts. every time I quite the play-through was right after I finished that quest.
That quest some people like it... But I totally despise it. The mapping systen goes bonkers in there, every time I do it I have to drag out a walk through guide, and follow it step by step. If there is any Quest in the game I wish I could skip, it would be that one.
2. By the way I did finish the main quest once [ By staying the course, and taking very few detour quest, that were not needed ] now I normally play up to the point where I about have to do wicked Eye's & wicked hearts quest, and I quit, start another character, or a different game. I just really don't enjoy that quest,there are just so many things in it that I abhor.
3. I do like the game, but there are parts of it that are so Boring, disgusting, over done, that is just eventually pushes me to the lets play something else for awhile mode.
4. Eventually I start remembering the parts I liked ( ignoring the Parts that I did not like ), and I start a new character, and fiddle with it some more, It has some very fun moments in it.
#21
Posté 11 mai 2016 - 03:18
i know it's probably just me. but i love the game so much because of how beautiful the world is. it may be repetitive but i complete most of the stuff.. maybe i'm just weird :/
#22
Posté 14 mai 2016 - 09:46
The fact this game is so big is great, but I've noticed on this forums and with friends that have tried to play it is too big? Too much to do and they feel over whelmed? Or maybe it isn't because there is so much to do it's because it isn't linear and people get a bit lost?
It is a shame, because so many games are so lacking in content for their price and here is a game that has LOADS of content and I feel worth every penny.
If OP has played to Skyhold and is still not feeling it then I'd have to say, yeah maybe not the game for you.
@taglag about WEaWH - That particular mission had the potential to be something really awesome but it fell short. It think it is the "timed" parts, where you lose court favour. It is not friendly to exploring and taking in everything at your own pace, not to mention if you want a certain outcome you'll need a guide because you're rushed about and it is so easy to miss something. I've played through it five times now so I understand how this beast works but anyone who hates it still can be instantly forgiven. Why do you quit after and start a new character, though? If the quest takes a lot out of you and you need to put the game down, why not return to your old character even if it is months since you last played?





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