Huh, um why would Solas want to see Mythal before the Conclave? I don't think Mythal wants the world of humans and dalish destroyed to bring Arlathan back, I don't think she wants the fade and mortal world as one again but, that's what Solas wants. She wouldn't help him because she doesn't share his goals.
Why would Solas go to the Temple to seek out Mythal when she's been murdered and no longer there?
I read somewhere that Corypheus learned the location of the temple of mythal from the Orb,i don't know if that is true but i think is possible.then why Solas didn't decided to go there to visit Mythal,if his Orb know about that i think he should know as well unless the Orb possess more memories than Solas?
Where did you read this?
If Morrigan knew of it I don't think Cory or Solas really needed the Orbs magic to know. This temple had statues of Fen'Harel, so his own legend had been alive since then at least.
Why would Solas go to the Temple to seek out Mythal when she's been murdered and no longer there?
Where did you read this?
If remember it was Samson who said that the Orb whispered some elven secrets to Corypheus after a while and that he understood from it the location of the temple.
If Morrigan knew of it I don't think Cory or Solas really needed the Orbs magic to know. This temple had statues of Fen'Harel, so his own legend had been alive since then at least.
Where did you read this?
This Orb
I was thinking of this one, actually:
I was thinking of this one, actually:
And soon after that Inquisitor captured Corypheus.
Do you want to give it a nickname?
Coryfish.
*cough* ...
So... Does that mean inside of pokeball is actually the Fade?
I don't think the orb holds memories or talks, it's just a magic conductor. Solas didn't lead Corypheus personally. His agents 'allowed' Cory to find it. And probably allowed him to piece together what it could do.
I also had the theory earlier that Solas must have known Mythal was partly alive back in the beginning . Although he says "So Mythal endures" in the temple, it isn't necessarily a statement of genuine surprise.
If he knew Mythal was around, why didn't he reach out to her first? If at least to coordinate the veil coming down.
The reason in that case would be because they don't see eye to eye. They were friends but she disagrees with his plan.
Yea i also believe that Solas knew that a part of Mythal was still alive.
In regards to the Orb originally being Mythal's, there's an artwork in the WoT2 that has giant statue of Mythal and near it is a pedestal with an Orb and 1 unknown person.
Eventually, the lore people might've changed it so that it's Solas' Orb.
Additionally, there are 2 blackened (used up) Orbs in the Vir Dirthara.
Though, i think that Solas believed Mythal to be dead for a long time until they went to her Temple and spoke to Abelas.
At most, I can see him trying to reach out to Mythal, but she obviously didn't want to be found. Afterall, Morrigan was able to hide her (and Kieran's) presence from Flemythal for a decade, so I'm pretty sure she used something to hide her presence from Solas.
Maybe he learned about the Temple (though not the location) via speaking with spirits/ demons? He was allied with The Nightmare demon. I think he also enlisted Imshael's services as well, though I'm not sure if Imshael hid his true identity.
Also, there have been others that sought out Mythal's temple. These expeditions could have been archived in tevinter or some other place where Corypheus agents saw it.
I don't think the orb holds memories or talks, it's just a magic conductor. Solas didn't lead Corypheus personally. His agents 'allowed' Cory to find it. And probably allowed him to piece together what it could do.
I also had the theory earlier that Solas must have known Mythal was partly alive back in the beginning . Although he says "So Mythal endures" in the temple, it isn't necessarily a statement of genuine surprise.
If he knew Mythal was around, why didn't he reach out to her first? If at least to coordinate the veil coming down.
The reason in that case would be because they don't see eye to eye. They were friends but she disagrees with his plan.
I do not believe that Solas and Mythal are working together to bring down the Veil. I that that while he may have known that Mythal was alive... Flemythal was keeping her distance purposefully. I do believe that she absolutely knew he was alive and was planning for his scheme.
I'm pretty sure that note said that Cory got information from the orb as well as power but of course since that note doesn't appear as a codex it is rather difficult to check up on. After all Cory knew quite early on about the Well of Sorrows because Samson/Calpurnia were being groomed as the "vessel". He doesn't just go there because you foiled his plan for the Wardens/Celene, he always planned on going there. You discover this quite early if you do the Templar path because of visiting the Temple of Dumat and talking with Erasthenes. So if he didn't get the knowledge from the orb, he clearly got it from somewhere. It may be that he had some idea that he needed the knowledge of the Well to allow his ascent to godhood to be complete. The Well was a source of knowledge and that knowledge would give power.
Corypheus seemed to know a lot about the ancient elves. I don't know if this was from his time as a Magister or knowledge he gained subsequently. He knew about the vallaslin being slave markings because he taunts you with this if you are a Dalish Inquisitor, though if you defeat him too quickly he never gets to say as much and of course it seems simply ranting if you have not previously be filled in on the subject by Solas. It may well be that he was getting information from demons but nothing to indicate as much.
As for Solas, there is nothing you can say categorically about his actions before joining the Inquisition. He speaks of visiting a hut in the Korcari Wilds, that was clearly Flemeth's hut but she had already left. One wonders why he did this if he didn't have some idea she had a connection with Mythal. He seems to realise something about the state of the inner Temple indicates that Mythal is still alive but it does seem odd he didn't go there originally if he was seeking allies. It still seems bonkers that he gave his orb, via his agents, to a complete stranger in order to get them to unlock it. If they had the knowledge and power to unlock it, how could he be sure they wouldn't be able to use it? It also seems odd that his time in the Fade had given him no insights into the activities of the Magisters, the Grey Wardens or the effectively immortality of arch demons. This is why he now seems such a lose canon because he has a myopic approach to life with supreme arrogance that he knows best, when he seems incapable of the sort of imagination that could anticipate alternative outcomes to the one he envisages and a very limited grasp of the history of the world since he entered uthenera.
In the notes from the game files, the Orb is called the Orb of Mythal. DG has suggested those notes may have been overtaken as the lore developed but it's arguably of some worth given the ties we see between Solas and Mythal.
It makes sense that the power Solas wields that puts him on close to a level field with the Evanuris is tied to Mythal.
Oh, that's cool. I was actually wondering about the talking part though.
I can't remember if he visited the hut physically or if he simply viewed it through the Fade but he definitely mentions it in one of his monologues. As for the orb perhaps having originally belonged to Mythal, it could well be that she gave it to him and that is why she admonishes him for giving it to Corypheus (probably the greatest understatement ever). Alternatively, she didn't actually give it to him but after her murder, he knew where to find it and used it to avenge himself on her killers.
I can't remember if he visited the hut physically or if he simply viewed it through the Fade but he definitely mentions it in one of his monologues.
INtreasting if true this mean that he knew the host of Mythal before he saw the well of sorrow.
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