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[Catastrophy]

It's simply the best.

[Loufi]

It's simply the best.

[Deerber]

I bought it, but haven't bothered too much.
Marksmad reckons its better played with a headset and mic, which I still haven't got round to purchasing yet

Everything is better played with headset and mic Human interactions are what make this life worthwhile

That said, add me, we're gonna have some games together, and even if it's without mic, it's still gonna be better than play by yourself

[Geth Supremacy]

Nothing will ever top PS2 Socom but ME3 nearly comes close in fun factor and longevity. Coming from me, that says A TON.

 

Undisputed fact. 

 

Back then you would have thought games would only get better.  You would have never dreamed that was the peak.  It was though.

 

Spoiler

  Last name Ever. First name Greatest.

 

 

Still miss Foxhunt.

 

[andy_3_913]

Everything is better played with headset and mic Human interactions are what make this life worthwhile

That said, add me, we're gonna have some games together, and even if it's without mic, it's still gonna be better than play by yourself

I prefer Bender's point of view...'Kill all humans'

But, ok, I will

[Maurader Sackboy]

...  that one was filled with obnoxious teenagers who couldn't stand to lose. I got hate messages daily lol and got screamed at in the headset too.  ....  the kids just tends to ruin it sometimes.

 

i've played a number of pvp games for completionist sake (to finish trophies) and the above seems to apply broadly for pvp!

the Borderlands series has an interesting & fun approach to multiplayer -- can play storymode with friends & public. problem is matchmaking is so narrow (must be in same mode & near same level) that the pool of eligible players is very small. Destiny has a few co-op options that are fun but no matchmaking for highest levels (must go in w 3 to 6 friends) -- tough for shy people like me.

so, yeah, ME3MP has been the most fun even though gold & plat lobbies are too often filled with unprepared people (hoping for a carry i guess?) & ps3 crashes are all too frequent. amazed at its longevity.

[Arktinen]

Look at all the terrible stories we all have, again and again, the horrible trollstore, stupid pugs, game freezes, lags, cheaty sync kills, map glitches, and the cornucopia of game bugs that never got fixed and silly button ideas on consoles (Omnibutton,  need I say more??), the time it takes to learn even a little bit of the game mechanics and cool ideas, etc. The whole list would be several pages long.

 

Still, with all that horror, we (or most of us) keep going back to this game. Keep grinding endless hours, still enjoying it despite all those bad sides. It really must be one of the best mp games out there.

It has been for me, it has changed my gaming life forever - or actually properly started my mp one.

[Fuenf789]

i've played a number of pvp games for completionist sake (to finish trophies) and the above seems to apply broadly for pvp!
the Borderlands series has an interesting & fun approach to multiplayer -- can play storymode with friends & public. problem is matchmaking is so narrow (must be in same mode & near same level) that the pool of eligible players is very small. Destiny has a few co-op options that are fun but no matchmaking for highest levels (must go in w 3 to 6 friends) -- tough for shy people like me.

so, yeah, ME3MP has been the most fun even though gold & plat lobbies are too often filled with unprepared people (hoping for a carry i guess?) & ps3 crashes are all too frequent. amazed at its longevity.

BEVROSS - wow - Maurader Sackboy - June 2014 - you kept a real low profile since then. Gr8 to see you also in BSN !

[GruntKitterhand]

ME3MP: Where people who suck at pvp games can feel like they are Gods.

 

I do know you're joking, but I'm just not interested in PvP pissing contests, and that's why I love ME3 MP, because it's pure co-op, and anyone who even looks at the "scoreboard" during games is already a bit of an insecure loser in my mind. 

 

I've dipped my toe in the alternate co-op waters of Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Borderlands 2, Gears of War 3. They just don't do it for me. I'm regularly tempted by Zombie Army Trilogy when it's on sale, but have yet to take the plunge. I was initially interested in The DIvision, but it looks a bit too much like going to work or something. None of those games have a Krogan Sentinel or a Claymoar, which I admit do make me feel like a God. A great big fat pink laughing God. 

 

Objectively ME3MP is nothing more than 5 out of 10. It's not a game you can just pick up and play. Nothing really is explained to the player (the tips rather confuse you) It doesn't explain how sync-kills work, weapon stats in bars are complete BS and in "reality" they can perform completely differently. The game is buggy as all hell (not even counting the game breaking freezes, crashes, loss of sound) Entire factions like Geth are glitched in one way or another. Unlocking weapons takes ages and often players take up to 1000 hours to max out a manifest. In 1000 hours I could complete entire ME SP trilogy probably 10 times from start to finish with all DLC and doing all the missions and listening to all dialogue without skipping a thing. 

 

You really need read the forums or watch a ton of videos by people who read the forums to have in-dept knowledge of the game mechanics. Which is not how it should be. 

 

Subjectively, I fundamentally disagree with your definition of the word objectively. 

 

Subjectively, I would rate ME3 as about 8 out of 10, even giving full weight to some of your points. Sure, a lot of what you say is true, but it's a subjective response to it that makes you drop your rating. Why should a game's rating drop because it takes some players 1000 hours to max everything? I don't get it. There's no link. It took me 1690 hours and I'm happily doing it all over again twice more on two platforms, just as I was playing on multiple alts well before I'd maxed my original manifest. I know I'm slightly unusual in that, but I would never regard maxing a manifest as any kind of motivation for playing a game. Fun is my motivation for playing a game, so I put up with a few relatively minor complaints about netcode, objectively unacceptable PS3 Collector issues, and a pretty poor RNG store structure - though it's worth noting that my primary objection to the store isn't the UR drop rate, it's the redundant character upgrade cards. I would prefer to be able to buy what I want, or trade, but running out of certain consumables always leads to more variety. Variety is objectively good. I could have played the SP trilogy 25 times in the circumstance you described, based on my own MP hours. But the point is I didn't, and neither did you, because the MP is more addictive than the SP. I know, I've done 13 trilogy runs, but only two of them happened after I tried MP.

 

As for your last sentence, why the hell not? You absolutely, totally and completely do not have to do any of the things you say to have a riot on Bronze. If you want to get the most out of the game, you will do the things you've said, and that's why most of us wound up here. While we are admittedly a tiny fraction of the playerbase, I would say we are without exception collectively well above average in terms of our performance or ability or knowledge. That's because we're rewarded for putting more effort in. That is how it should be. At least from my subjective soapbox. 

[Al Swearengen of Deadwood]

Doubt I will ever PvP again after MW3. Too many assclowns, screaming 8 year olds, and hate messages for me. That was basically the last online I did until ME3. Way more to my low profile/wanting to relax/have fun. But I was so dumb that I never downloaded dlc for mp until last February after having the game for 3 years. And I immediately got hooked (collectibles addict).
I've taken 2 breaks in the last 14 months and that is it. Enjoy the community on here (for the most part). Met a bunch of good people to play with as well and that is the main reason I keep playing. And trying to max my manifest ofc. Probably what I have found the coolest is the fact that almost everyone I play with is my age or older and I thought 34 was for someone playing games. So, yes I will put up will the occasional PS3 issues and few and far between dbag you run into to continue playing.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I do know you're joking, but I'm just not interested in PvP pissing contests..

 

The thing is, I don't play pvp for the pissing contest or for bragging rights. Rather it's because I'm playing against other people who for the most part are smarter than A.I and the related challenge in that.

 

A person can think and act in ways an AI can't and each encounter is unique because of that. The rush of going back and forth against a good player in pvp is one of the best feelings in gaming. A bot just isn't gonna cut it because if you play enough you can always predict what the A.I will do but there's always the unknown factor while playing against people, especially good players. 

 

And sure there's plenty of dbags online but hatemail is part of the fun man. Just think of them as trophies or (as crimson used to say) Lovemail! 

[Loufi]

I do know you're joking, but I'm just not interested in PvP pissing contests, and that's why I love ME3 MP, because it's pure co-op, and anyone who even looks at the "scoreboard" during games is already a bit of an insecure loser in my mind. 

 

I've dipped my toe in the alternate co-op waters of Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Borderlands 2, Gears of War 3. They just don't do it for me. I'm regularly tempted by Zombie Army Trilogy when it's on sale, but have yet to take the plunge. I was initially interested in The DIvision, but it looks a bit too much like going to work or something. None of those games have a Krogan Sentinel or a Claymoar, which I admit do make me feel like a God. A great big fat pink laughing God. 

 

 

Subjectively, I fundamentally disagree with your definition of the word objectively. 

 

Subjectively, I would rate ME3 as about 8 out of 10, even giving full weight to some of your points. Sure, a lot of what you say is true, but it's a subjective response to it that makes you drop your rating. Why should a game's rating drop because it takes some players 1000 hours to max everything? I don't get it. There's no link. It took me 1690 hours and I'm happily doing it all over again twice more on two platforms, just as I was playing on multiple alts well before I'd maxed my original manifest. I know I'm slightly unusual in that, but I would never regard maxing a manifest as any kind of motivation for playing a game. Fun is my motivation for playing a game, so I put up with a few relatively minor complaints about netcode, objectively unacceptable PS3 Collector issues, and a pretty poor RNG store structure - though it's worth noting that my primary objection to the store isn't the UR drop rate, it's the redundant character upgrade cards. I would prefer to be able to buy what I want, or trade, but running out of certain consumables always leads to more variety. Variety is objectively good. I could have played the SP trilogy 25 times in the circumstance you described, based on my own MP hours. But the point is I didn't, and neither did you, because the MP is more addictive than the SP. I know, I've done 13 trilogy runs, but only two of them happened after I tried MP.

 

As for your last sentence, why the hell not? You absolutely, totally and completely do not have to do any of the things you say to have a riot on Bronze. If you want to get the most out of the game, you will do the things you've said, and that's why most of us wound up here. While we are admittedly a tiny fraction of the playerbase, I would say we are without exception collectively well above average in terms of our performance or ability or knowledge. That's because we're rewarded for putting more effort in. That is how it should be. At least from my subjective soapbox. 

Grunt Gandhi is back ! Remember when someone told you to put "1v1 me Gandhi" on a t-shirt some months ago ? Who was it already ? It was hilarious.

 

Joke apart, I fully agree with what you said. Pure co-op guy here too.

[0m3ga_R3dd]

If you like to die a lot try Killing Floor 2.

Other games - L4D2, CS 1.6, TF Classic (**** TF 2), and of course Unreal Tournament.

Original Doom or Doom 2. Or check out Brutal Doom.

[GruntKitterhand]

The thing is, I don't play pvp for the pissing contest or for bragging rights. Rather it's because I'm playing against other people who for the most part are smarter than A.I and the related challenge in that.

 

I get that absolutely, and believe me I've had some great nights with mates, simply watching them engage in hilarious battles. I cannot dispute the fun or the enjoyment of the different challenge, but I must refer you to the below quoted text....

 

Grunt Gandhi is back ! Remember when someone told you to put "1v1 me Gandhi" on a t-shirt some months ago ? Who was it already ? It was hilarious.

 

Joke apart, I fully agree with what you said. Pure co-op here too.

 

It was hilarious, but not as hilarious as the fact I was typing the words, "May I remind you that I have been called Gandhi on this forum?" at the precise moment you made your post.  I hadn't thought about that in a while, but either Operation Mindfuck is progressing nicely or my recent brush with mortality is just making me a particularly peaceful, happy Krogan. I don't appear to have a competitive gene at all, and can best describe my vision of heaven as being one of those headbutting Krogans in the Hydra gif, pondering poetic words for his girlfriend who's part of an all-Asari squad giving their all, together, for Thessia. Or an 'honorary Krogan' QFI with a squad of migrant workers, or a dirty filthy scummy bunch of Batarian Raiders. Or any of the other variations of themed games with people just having a laugh. Springsteen says it best: Nobody wins unless everybody wins. 

 

I can't remember who it was for sure and it's quite annoying. I'll have to blame the, um, medication. I have sent a request to my memory, it usually gives me something within a couple of days. Some funny fecker anyway. 

(Edit: A certain Nuclear Technician, who may or may not have been born in 1977 is the current primary suspect)

I must now lament the fact that I have run out of likes for the day. 

[Oni Changas]

Undisputed fact. 

 

Back then you would have thought games would only get better.  You would have never dreamed that was the peak.  It was though.

 

Spoiler

  Last name Ever. First name Greatest.

 

 

Still miss Foxhunt.

 

Kids these day will never know what a TRUE competitive online MP game is (well there's CounterStrike). That **** was ahead of its time with features STILL not seen in other games. 

 

No lame ass cover system. You had to hug walls and had the ability to LEAN out to peek around corners and pop off shots.

 

Shotguns feel like shotguns. Get blasted at medium range? You get dropped to the floor, if it's a clean shot up close you're not getting up.

 

Grenade arc and banking. It made grenade throws accurate and you could snuff out campers with your trajectories.

 

REAL quick sniping. No slow ass COD zoom or perks. You scope in and out as fast as you can tough the up d-pad. **** was so real in S2 and S3 that there were whole servers based around quick scoping only. Most of them were clan battles featuring sequencial 1v1s. 

 

Third person OR first person. That's right. If you want to see your surroundings or if you want tunnel vision the OPTION was there. Quick snipers' best friend.

 

A REAL clan community. You could have official Sony hosted clan wars or have your own servers going. You didn't have to PAY a dime for your own. The stat tracking was accurate and let you know who the real good players were. The community always had a consensus of tie-breaker maps. While each clan chose a best out of 5-11 map of their own. Frostfire and Desert Glory anyone?

 

VARIED map designs. No big squares or circles. You had desert, arctic, urban, industrial, and even water-centric environments. Some maps featured big differences in elevation and vehicles for big maps in wide open environments.

 

Realistic RPG physics. I once killed a guy who tried to sneak me with backblast while trying to take out a tank. ****! 

 

And who could forget grabbing dead players' gear or swapping your guns with a downed opponent, bringing the I-Dub over to the terrorist side or snatching an M82 for the SEALs? Not to mention getting the win for your squad after an intense game of cat and mouse where you and your enemy have no idea where each other are until you character's gun goes "hot." Then coming out the victor and humping the opponents' body? It was even funnier than teabagging or the Victory Dances. Yes. Victory Dances. You had the option to do a macarana or the running man on some poor fool's corpse.

 

Socom 3 was my favorite but S2 was a blast and THE game that really got it popping. Anyone who's played them on PS2 would be well familiar with the term Socrack. It was hard to put down. Socom 3 was just beyond anything I've ever played and respawn on it was the best thing ever. Demolition on maps like Killing Fields, Blackwoods, Rat's Nest, Nightstalker... I wish Sony would get their head out of their ass and give David Sears full control and money to revive it. You want a game that would make Oni buy a PS4? A TRUE Socom revival would do it no question.

 

 

Sorry for getting off topic guys. I'm passionate about what this series once was.

[Salarian Master Race]

I do know you're joking, but I'm just not interested in PvP pissing contests, and that's why I love ME3 MP, because it's pure co-op, and anyone who even looks at the "scoreboard" during games is already a bit of an insecure loser in my mind. 

 

I've dipped my toe in the alternate co-op waters of Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Borderlands 2, Gears of War 3. They just don't do it for me.

 

Gears 3 Horde Mode is actually quite challenging and fun, but if you're pugging it then don't expect to survive until the end.  If you go in with friends, communicate, coordinate, mark targets, set up killzones, take occasional risks for big rewards (make a run for that Boomshot laying down there in the street), place Shields up in front of your Forcefields to act as a renewable first line of defense, keep the Silverback in a "garage" somewhere out of sight until you REALLY need it, and hold off on purchasing most Fortifications until Wave 45+, then the victory and sense of achievement when you win is incredibly satisfying.

 

Or they just enable all of the built-in cheats like Super Ammo or whatever and kill everything with 2 Lancer bullets.  WTF built-in Godmode cheats

 

And I check the ME3MP scoreboard in between every round.  I'm just inconspicuous about it.  Run to your chosen starting point, take the scenic route if you must, arrive with juuuust enough time to tap it on and off for a second, with only a cursory glance at the top score to see if it is you or not, is all the time you need and no one even knows you did it. 

 

And this was funny because it's true:

 

[TheN7Penguin]

Gears 3 Horde Mode is actually quite challenging and fun, but if you're pugging it then don't expect to survive until the end.  If you go in with friends, communicate, coordinate, mark targets, set up killzones, take occasional risks for big rewards (make a run for that Boomshot laying down there in the street), place Shields up in front of your Forcefields to act as a renewable first line of defense, and hold off on purchasing most Fortifications until Wave 45+, then the victory and sense of achievement when you win is incredibly satisfying.

 

Or they just enable all of the built-in cheats like Super Ammo or whatever and kill everything with 2 Lancer bullets.  WTF built-in Godmode cheats

 

And I check the ME3MP scoreboard in between every round.  I'm just inconspicuous about it.  Run to your chosen starting point, take the scenic route if you must, arrive with juuuust enough time to tap it on and off for a second, with only a cursory glance at the top score to see if it is you or not, is all the time you need and no one even knows you did it. 

 

I never check the scoreboard... like never. I only see what score I've got at the end of the game XD

[Arkhne]

 

And this was funny because it's true:

 

 

If anyone DIDN'T watch that then, watch it now. That's all I quoted this for, to make sure it is watched.

[GruntKitterhand]

 

Man, I'm contemplating un-liking some earier posts, as this is essential viewing for everyone. I want to hug you. I want to hug Roger. I want to cut the chain to my electric reality-escaping brick. But I won't, obviously.

 

As for Gears, yeah, I have a friend irl who was a top level player, and I often watched her play before she switched to Plants versus Zombies (the above clip seems all the more relevant!), and we played online a few times. The thing is, she deleted me after she provoked a slightly Bill Hicks-type rant about Twitter. True story! You'd think I told her her kid was ugly or something. 

[TheN7Penguin]

I haven't really connected with other multiplayer games other than ME3MP... other than ME3MP, the only one I've really enjoyed is Battlefield 3. Battlefield 4 I didn't like though. And the servers on BF3 now are "Operation Metro" or "Caspian Border"... that's the two choices you get. Two very good maps, but not some I want to be playing constantly.
 
My only fond memories of GTA Online involve me annoying the **** out of people and making 6 year olds cry.
Ah... the days of parking a car blocking the entrance of LS Customs armed with an ignition bomb... people would realise they couldn't  get in otherwise and try to get in the car to move it. Then boom. You could repeat that a thousand times and people still wouldn't catch on.
 
There was the time I used a Sovereign soundboard on my phone and I think I made a child cry in the background of someone's mic. I entered the lobby and started with the classic quote of "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."
I got a reply almost instantly from maybe a twelve year old... he was American, and really didn't sound old at all, saying, "WHAT THE ****** ****?"
"My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence."
There was quite a bit more cursing after that, I wasn't really paying attention at that point. He tried to kill me... in a pickup. Needless to say, my supercar ran circles around him and I placed a few sticky bombs on his car and blew him up when he was driving away.
Then all of a sudden his mic went really loud and said "Dude this guy is a hacker", then he started mumbling to himself.
"Your words are as empty as your future. I am the Vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over."

Then a child (not the guy on the mic, but in someone's background) started to cry. And I felt awful. So I made myself feel better by killing the guy with the mic a few more times before he rage quit.

Then I added him as a friend and he accepted my friend request. :S

So I unfriended him XD

I love that Sovereign soundboard. Still got it XD

[Oni Changas]

I haven't really connected with other multiplayer games other than ME3MP... other than ME3MP, the only one I've really enjoyed is Battlefield 3. Battlefield 4 I didn't like though. And the servers on BF3 now are "Operation Metro" or "Caspian Border"... that's the two choices you get. Two very good maps, but not some I want to be playing constantly.
 
My only fond memories of GTA Online involve me annoying the **** out of people and making 6 year olds cry.
Ah... the days of parking a car blocking the entrance of LS Customs armed with an ignition bomb... people would realise they couldn't  get in otherwise and try to get in the car to move it. Then boom. You could repeat that a thousand times and people still wouldn't catch on.
 
There was the time I used a Sovereign soundboard on my phone and I think I made a child cry in the background of someone's mic. I entered the lobby and started with the classic quote of "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."
I got a reply almost instantly from maybe a twelve year old... he was American, and really didn't sound old at all, saying, "WHAT THE ****** ****?"
"My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence."
There was quite a bit more cursing after that, I wasn't really paying attention at that point. He tried to kill me... in a pickup. Needless to say, my supercar ran circles around him and I placed a few sticky bombs on his car and blew him up when he was driving away.
Then all of a sudden his mic went really loud and said "Dude this guy is a hacker", then he started mumbling to himself.
"Your words are as empty as your future. I am the Vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over."

Then a child (not the guy on the mic, but in someone's background) started to cry. And I felt awful. So I made myself feel better by killing the guy with the mic a few more times before he rage quit.

Then I added him as a friend and he accepted my friend request. :S

So I unfriended him XD

I love that Sovereign soundboard. Still got it XD

Nice. My favorite GTAO memory was trolling the **** out a cheater/mod user by calling him out and goading him into trying to kill me. Only I was in passive mode in the construction complex. He couldn't do **** and me and my boys clowned him until he shut up and left. Best line: "GOT EEM!"

[TheN7Penguin]

I've bumped into a few mod users in the short amount of time I've played that game for XD One gave me a few million dollars and I was like "cheers bro" XD The other one had a mic and kept laughing at people while making explosions at their feet... He was sat in a car. I did a counter-troll and dropped him into the ocean with a Cargobob. I've done that many times to be fair XD If someone's annoying me I just drop them into the ocean.

[XAN]

I do know you're joking, but I'm just not interested in PvP pissing contests, and that's why I love ME3 MP, because it's pure co-op, and anyone who even looks at the "scoreboard" during games is already a bit of an insecure loser in my mind. 

I wasn't entirely joking, however I will tell you that I do check the scoreboard between waves, just like most of my friends. I'm not sure how an inscure loser's opinion matters to you but here's mine: we are all humans, and we compare ourselves to each other, even if it's a flawed scoring system in a cooperative game. I've read your other post where you say that you lack a competitive gene. I understand this, however you must also understand that you are a minority in this regard. Checking how much you are contributing towards the dps is not a problem at all. The problem is with the people that only play for the score, like the pugs that leech objective waves and nuke wave 11 when they are getting outscored. I check the scoreboard to see how the team is doing. If I find a player that outscores me without using the above mentioned cheap tactics, I send them a complimenting message, or at least I'll add their name to the "people I can learn from" list in my mind, and I'll be happy to play with them again.

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

Gears 3 Horde Mode is actually quite challenging and fun, but if you're pugging it then don't expect to survive until the end.  If you go in with friends, communicate, coordinate, mark targets, set up killzones, take occasional risks for big rewards (make a run for that Boomshot laying down there in the street), place Shields up in front of your Forcefields to act as a renewable first line of defense, keep the Silverback in a "garage" somewhere out of sight until you REALLY need it, and hold off on purchasing most Fortifications until Wave 45+, then the victory and sense of achievement when you win is incredibly satisfying.

 

Or they just enable all of the built-in cheats like Super Ammo or whatever and kill everything with 2 Lancer bullets.  WTF built-in Godmode cheats

 

And I check the ME3MP scoreboard in between every round.  I'm just inconspicuous about it.  Run to your chosen starting point, take the scenic route if you must, arrive with juuuust enough time to tap it on and off for a second, with only a cursory glance at the top score to see if it is you or not, is all the time you need and no one even knows you did it. 

 

And this was funny because it's true:

 

 

BUMPED...cuz this video is too damn funny for anyone readingthis, to not pass up

[Fuenf789]

Hell boys. all writing encyclopedia britannica in one one day?
Stop.
please make them go away.
I promise to never do that again.