The truth is that Mass Effect is mediocre at best, KotorEffect3. ME fanboys like yourself maybe blinded to your fandom but some of us are not so blinded.
Bwahahaha that is why it is always in the conversation when the subject of the best gaming franchises of the last generation of gaming consoles comes up. Go back to CoD or destiny, You aren't in ME's league kid.
Bwahahaha that is why it is always in the conversation when the subject of the best gaming franchises of the last generation of gaming consoles comes up. Go back to CoD or destiny, You aren't in ME's league kid.
YOU think I play COD or Destiny?! HA! I stopped COD when they ruined it with MW3. And I never even touched Destiny so your insult is wasted there. Go back to playing your soft porn game, BOY.
So you have indeed played CoD. Knew it.
So you have indeed played CoD. Knew it.
Yeah, when they based COD on WW2.
The truth is that Mass Effect is mediocre at best, KotorEffect3. ME fanboys like yourself maybe blinded to your fandom but some of us are not so blinded.
I criticize BioWare and Mass Effect a lot, but I disagree with this statement. The Mass Effect franchise is by no means mediocre.
Truth:
Most FPS games are terrible multiplayer-focused games which attract hoards of twelve year olds every year because their parents are too stupid to read game cases. They are also very derivative, and have poor singleplayer modes... if there is one at all. Not calling them 'dumb people games'... but yeah, that's pretty much what I mean.
Truth:
Mass Effect has one of the best sci-fi universes of this generation.
Truth:
I have played more Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer than any other multiplayer game.
Truth: I have played more Mass Effect singleplayer than I have played all my other games put together.
I could think of a lot of fps games with better gameplay and online but we're not hear to compare games, this is about having the ability to switch between first person and third person view.
this is about having the ability to switch between first person and third person view.
Third person view is the best suit for Mass Effect imo. I'm not against the toggle idea but BioWare would require a solid reason to bring first person view feature in the first place.
Add 1st and then remove the 3rd person, if only to rustle the idiots who froth at the mouth every time FPS games are mentioned, but obviously haven't ever played one.
Also PvP multiplayer, and make sure to intergrate it into SP campaign progress. I wanna jetpack 720 noscope some scrubby RPG plebs and make them cry.
Add 1st and then remove the 3rd person, if only to rustle the idiots who froth at the mouth every time FPS games are mentioned, but obviously haven't ever played one.
We can do better than that,why not turn it into a moba?
Battlefront has it, GTA has it, MGS5 has it and it works well. I know people will be against it but hey, when I get my Handsome Jack on and strangle an alien in Andromeda, I want to see up close.
You mean like your profile pic? XD
On a more relevant note, I don't see the problem with that.
At the risk of comparing apples to oranges, when I play "Fallout: New Vegas" or "Skyrim", I stick with first-person, since that's the view you start with. I occasionally switch to third-person for dramatic/role-playing purposes or if I want a wider field of view, but with any game I prefer to go with the default controller/perspective settings simply for ease of use. If it's all whack I go all "Customization 101" on it, but otherwise I let it be.
But with Mass Effect it was always in third person, and I found the gameplay better suited for it.
So I say let it be. I'm fine with the perspective being switchable, but therein lies the risk of being sub-par.
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Here's a longer post, so feel free to read or ignore at your leisure:
Immersion and Story-telling. Very similar, but not necessarily the same thing.
You don't need to *BE* there to experience a good story. Just like at a movie theater, you're not actually present in the film's setting, but you can still enjoy the film.
Going with that, movies are not "immersive", but are a great medium for "story-telling".
Third-person is like that, you're witness to all the events, but not *INSIDE* the events. The benefit of that is that the audience (or in this case, the player) can be shown events that are elsewhere from what is currently seen; as in, Shepard stops the Cerberus coup on the Citadel, and then we cut to Kai Leng reporting to the Illusive Man.
Because the perspective is in third-person, it's not jarring, because we're seeing it in third-person. If it were in first-person, it could really throw the player through a loop, wondering if some hidden teleporter is at work or worse, a bad glitch.
Immersion works well with first-person, since you can literally see the events from your character's eyes, whether you've made your character an avatar of *you* or someone else. The downside of that is that cutscenes don't mesh well, since the shift in perspective can break that immersion. It has nothing to do with the quality of the cutscene or the relevance thereof, but you are switching from "I am in control" to "the game is in control".
Technically, cutscenes break immersion in this case because the perspective either changes into something else and/or character control is being removed from the player.
Again, it has nothing to do with whether the cutscene is "good" or "bad", it's simply the nature thereof.
Both are good and have their merits, but it's one of those things where one works more depending on what you're going for, Story-telling or Immersion.
As a disclaimer, I don't presume to lecture anyone on "First-Person is better" or "Third-Person is better", and I'm fully aware that I could simply be overthinking this. What I liked about the third-person perspective in Mass Effect was that you were essentially at eye-level with Shepard, much like a first-person view. Additionally, the camera follows Shepard very closely, to the point that at the "default" direction, you couldn't actually see his/her whole body. I feel that allows for both "Immersion" and "Story-telling", since it's overall third-person (which means cutscenes aren't *jarring*) but it's close enough that you get the feel of first-person.
Those are my thoughts on the matter, make of them what you will, and be nice to each other.
That would make more people compare Mass Effect to COD
So you have indeed played CoD. Knew it.
The older COD's are actually pretty decent. You should try it before using this as a generic insult.
As for including it in game, I wouldn't mind it because a first person view actually has the bonus of being able to view the environment more closely kinda like short range binoculars. It's convenient if I wanna take a closer look at something in game like an item, npc etc.
That's about the only reason that I'd use it for though, overall third person is much better suited for a mass effect style of combat Imo. Melee and biotic characters would be better suited to third person besides being less disorientating when you have to spin around and dodge all the time.
Battlefront has it, GTA has it, MGS5 has it and it works well. I know people will be against it but hey, when I get my Handsome Jack on and strangle an alien in Andromeda, I want to see up close.
It's probably not worth the development costs just for the sake of alien-strangling.
Optional? Yeah sure why not, takes a lot of work, maybe just make a "panorama view" first person cam, where you can literally just walk around, no weapon in hand or anything. The first person in deus ex is the only thing I actually dislike about the game. When you have the covering and some melee sequences, why not just make it in third person at all times? I'm the kind of person who likes to see the character and what he does, was never the FP camera guy.
I remember way back when Extra Credits did one of their episodes, and they discussed this in God of War III. In truth, I think it would be a terrible idea to do that. One of the frequent criticisms I heard about BioWARE as of recently is that the player is forced to make decisions the player may not have liked. Lord knows, I was right there. When I had to hug Liara or talk about how wonderful Wrex was, I actually had to pause the game and stop for a minute, because it took me right out of the story of a character who I was supposed to be controlling.
No first person perspective.
I'd be fine with a camera switch to 1st person, and I'd probably set it to default if they got it working right.
BF4 lets you lean out of cover in first person view without fully "snapping" you to the wall... it's tied to aiming down the sights though.
But I like the camera angles currently....
Add 1st and then remove the 3rd person, if only to rustle the idiots who froth at the mouth every time FPS games are mentioned, but obviously haven't ever played one.
Also PvP multiplayer, and make sure to intergrate it into SP campaign progress. I wanna jetpack 720 noscope some scrubby RPG plebs and make them cry.
This type of horror show is one of the reasons I tend to avoid MP games most of the time...
It's the kind of thing that healthy humans are hardwired to back away from very slowly, and then run for yer dam life.
Poor kid, I wonder if he got the help he most certainly needs.
Bwahahaha that is why it is always in the conversation when the subject of the best gaming franchises of the last generation of gaming consoles comes up. Go back to CoD or destiny, You aren't in ME's league kid.
I wouldn't use it, but hey, why not.
First-person doesn't work in cover-based shooters, unless you switch to third-person whenever the character enters cover (as in Deus Ex: Human Revolution). In any case, I see no reason to add first-person to Mass Effect. Third-person is enough.
Doesn't Killzone have a first-person cover system that stays first-person?
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