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[The Ascendant]

Perhaps the reason we are leaving the Milky Way is because of the dark energy that is causing the stars in our native galaxy to die. Remembered that is was mentioned a few times in ME 2, but never brought up again. 

[In Exile]

I think they dropped that plot. It was supposed to justify the reapers but they went with that ridiculous nonsense ending.

[SKAR]

I think they dropped that plot. It was supposed to justify the reapers but they went with that ridiculous nonsense ending.

you keep thinking that.

[GaroTD]

Its going to change into another argument about endings. 

[Draining Dragon]

Its going to change into another argument about endings.

but muh indoctrination theory

[Killroy]

you keep thinking that.

It's a fact that dark energy was the original nonsensical justification for the Reaper's cycles. Nothing to do with what anyone thinks.

[AlanC9]

I think they dropped that plot. It was supposed to justify the reapers but they went with that ridiculous nonsense ending.

It's not like that plot was better nonsense than what we ended up with, is it?

[AlanC9]

It's a fact that dark energy was the original nonsensical justification for the Reaper's cycles. Nothing to do with what anyone thinks.

Well, one of several candidates. Dark energy gets all the press because it got mentioned twice in ME2, but it wasn't ever the Reaper explanation.

[The Hierophant]

It's a fact that dark energy was the original nonsensical justification for the Reaper's cycles. Nothing to do with what anyone thinks.

I think it's even worse than the protection of organics from synths justification . You have the Reapers reaping people because the ME tech that they created somehow created dark energy, but they continued to leave the tech out in the open for all the spacefaring races to discover, and use. 

[Mcfly616]

Yep, the DE plot was dropped. Drew K has discussed it vaguely since the release of ME3. Basically the reason Reapers reap was because they needed to combat the force of dark energy. Organics were the only beings able to manipulate dark energy (aka Biotics) and therefore, the Reapers harvested entire organic civilizations into massive, dark energy manipulating starships, in order to save the galaxy from an inevitable death.

 

 

However, interestingly enough, Andromeda is a zombie galaxy (meaning it's long since ceased mass producing stars), that is on an inevitable collision course with the Milky Way (due in large part to the mysterious force that is dark energy). 

 

 

So, technically if they wanted to revive the long dead/unfinished/unpolished plotline that was Dark Energy....they'd have an "in", so to speak....

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yep, the DE plot was dropped. Drew K has discussed it vaguely since the release of ME3. Basically the reason Reapers reap was because they needed to combat the force of dark energy. Organics were the only beings able to manipulate dark energy (aka Biotics) and therefore, the Reapers harvested entire organic civilizations into massive, dark energy manipulating starships, in order to save the galaxy from an inevitable death.

 

 

However, interestingly enough, Andromeda is a zombie galaxy (meaning it's long since ceased mass producing stars), that is on an inevitable collision course with the Milky Way (due in large part to the mysterious force that is dark energy). 

 

 

So, technically if they wanted to revive the long dead/unfinished/unpolished plotline that was Dark Energy....they'd have an "in", so to speak....

Dark Energy isn't responsible for the Milky Way and Andromeda being on a collision course. Gravity is.

 

Dark Energy is in opposition of gravity. Where gravity draws things together, dark energy forces things apart. It's why the universe is expanding in an accelerated rate rather than slowing down and eventually will force galaxies away from each other at a rate faster than the speed of light. 

[Vortex13]

I think it's even worse than the protection of organics from synths justification . You have the Reapers reaping people because the ME tech that they created somehow created dark energy, but they continued to leave the tech out in the open for all the spacefaring races to discover, and use. 

 

 

Yeah, definitely meme worthy: 

 

Yo dawg, I heard you didn't want to be killed by dark energy. So I gave you dark energy technology to use, while I harvest you with dark energy technology.

[Killroy]

Dark Energy isn't responsible for the Milky Way and Andromeda being on a collision course. Gravity is.
 
Dark Energy is in opposition of gravity. Where gravity draws things together, dark energy forces things apart. It's why the universe is expanding in an accelerated rate rather than slowing down and eventually will force galaxies away from each other at a rate faster than the speed of light.

 

Yeah, definitely meme worthy: 
 
Yo dawg, I heard you didn't want to be killed by dark energy. So I gave you dark energy technology to use, while I harvest you with dark energy technology.

 
People like to cling to the Dark Energy storyline because it wasn't written by Walters and Hudson and is something other than what we got, but it was equally stupid and illogical.

[The Hierophant]

So, technically if they wanted to revive the long dead/unfinished/unpolished plotline that was Dark Energy....they'd have an "in", so to speak....

This wouldn't surprise me.

 

Yeah, definitely meme worthy: 

 

Yo dawg, I heard you didn't want to be killed by dark energy. So I gave you dark energy technology to use, while I harvest you with dark energy technology.

After the reveal that the mass relay tech was Reaper in origin, that Dark Energy plotline for ME3 would have created a nasty plothole.

[The Hierophant]

Dark Energy isn't responsible for the Milky Way and Andromeda being on a collision course. Gravity is.

 

Dark Energy is in opposition of gravity. Where gravity draws things together, dark energy forces things apart. It's why the universe is expanding in an accelerated rate rather than slowing down and eventually will force galaxies away from each other at a rate faster than the speed of light. 

Forget about all the scientific inaccuracies of this hypothetical plot, think of all the drama to be had?

[Sanunes]

 
People like to cling to the Dark Energy storyline because it wasn't written by Walters and Hudson and is something other than what we got, but it was equally stupid and illogical.

 

I agree, especially since it also involves Drew Karpyshyn.  I believe if they somehow put a variation of the Dark Energy story into the final version of the game the reaction would have been the same, especially after reading what seems to be general idea of those endings.

[SKAR]

It's a fact that dark energy was the original nonsensical justification for the Reaper's cycles. Nothing to do with what anyone thinks.

I would have liked to see the whole dark energy thing. And I was talking about the nonsense ending.

[Mcfly616]

Dark Energy isn't responsible for the Milky Way and Andromeda being on a collision course. Gravity is.

 

Dark Energy is in opposition of gravity. Where gravity draws things together, dark energy forces things apart. It's why the universe is expanding in an accelerated rate rather than slowing down and eventually will force galaxies away from each other at a rate faster than the speed of light. 

 You're correct. Leading Bioware to an even more likable scenario (considering their affinity for EPICness).

 

What's a few galaxies on a cosmic collision course when we have to worry about the whole damn universe ending...

[Killroy]

I would have liked to see the whole dark energy thing. And I was talking about the nonsense ending.

That's nothing to do with what anyone may think either. The endings were nonsense, of the highest order.

[LightningPoodle]

I think with a little more work behind it, dark energy could have been better than what we got. The ending we got came out of nowhere. At least with dark energy it was hinted at in an earlier game. In my opinion, that is always better.

[Hadeedak]

I think with a little more work behind it, dark energy could have been better than what we got. The ending we got came out of nowhere. At least with dark energy it was hinted at in an earlier game. In my opinion, that is always better.

 

The Citadel AI pretty strongly hints this is a problem in ME1. There's a few rogue systems in ME2. There's a few crumbs of "Hey, not all synthetics love you very huggy much and want to be best friends for their entire existence" strewn around. It's about as foreshadowed as dark energy: that is to say, a few odds and ends and then a very heavy thump over the head with it.

[Killroy]

I think with a little more work behind it, dark energy could have been better than what we got. The ending we got came out of nowhere. At least with dark energy it was hinted at in an earlier game. In my opinion, that is always better.

 

So being told after lunch that you're having a $hit-sandwich for dinner makes the $hit-sandwich taste better? 

 

Foreshadowing doesn't make awful writing less awful.

[DarthSliver]

Dark Energy was hinted at as much as Organics vs Synthetics plot. A better solution was they should've extended the story to a 4th game because there was too much to cram into ME3 for it to ever be a finished game and finish the trilogy rightfully.

 

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ME3: Reaper War Part 1

 

ME3: Reaper War Part 2 

[iM3GTR]

The best solution was to not make ME1 a cliffhanger so they didn't have to think up a reason for the reapers' harvests.
Then they should have made a new setting for a completely different game and made that instead.

[Killroy]

The best solution was to not make ME1 a cliffhanger so they didn't have to think up a reason for the reapers' harvests.
Then they should have made a new setting for a completely different game and made that instead.

 

...wat