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[Patricia08]

My Amell bloodmage cheated on Morrigan with Leliana. It was great.

 

Uhm that was not the cheat i was looking for  . 

[Ieldra]

@The topic:

I honestly don't recall. As a rule, I do cheat in (SP) games here and there to get around things I don't consider enjoyable or if I think the reward isn't worth the work I have to put in, but I've never seen the need in a Bioware game. The closest I ever come is when I make decisions I don't wan't to keep because I want to know what the alternative path is like, and then re-load and continue along the other path. This happens with decisions that are so distasteful to me that making them immediately makes the character "not my character". 

 

Having said that, some mods are so powerful you might consider them a cheat. An example is the "Winter Forge" mod for DAO and DAA. You won't get anything for free, but the ability to combine and distribute enchantments makes for some crazily-powerful items late in the game. With different items custom-made for serving the same purpose, things like 95% dodge chance become possible. That almost bit me in the neck when I had to fight someone who had taken all my equipment in DAA.

 

Edit:

Oh, I recall I did cheat in ME3 and DAI. I used a published scanning map in ME3 from my second playthrough onwards in order to avoid having to revisit a star system because I ran out of time in the first visit. And I used a map of all the gears in the Descent areas in DAI from my second playthrough onwards. I did *not* cheat with the places of interest on the Uncharted Worlds in ME1 because I had them all memorized. In any case, collecting stuff through exploration is really only enjoyable the first time, and maybe a second time if you're hardcore. After that, it becomes a chore.

[Patricia08]

@The topic:

I honestly don't recall. As a rule, I do cheat in (SP) games here and there to get around things I don't consider enjoyable or if I think the reward isn't worth the work I have to put in, but I've never seen the need in a Bioware game. The closest I ever come is when I make decisions I don't wan't to keep because I want to know what the alternative path is like, and then re-load and continue along the other path. This happens with decisions that are so distasteful to me that making them immediately makes the character "not my character". 

 

Having said that, some mods are so powerful you might consider them a cheat. An example is the "Winter Forge" mod for DAO and DAA. You won't get anything for free, but the ability to combine and distribute enchantments makes for some crazily-powerful items late in the game. With different items custom-made for serving the same purpose, things like 95% dodge chance become possible. That almost bit me in the neck when I had to fight someone who had taken all my equipment in DAA.

 

Edit:

Oh, I recall I did cheat in ME3 and DAI. I used a published scanning map in ME3 from my second playthrough onwards in order to avoid having to revisit a star system because I ran out of time in the first visit. And I used a map of all the gears in the Descent areas in DAI from my second playthrough onwards. I did *not* cheat with the mining locations in ME1 because I had them all memorized.

 

I never used mods myself but if they make you more powerful and stronger then yes i consider them as a cheat. 

[Ieldra]

And another thing: after the Golden Nug came out, I used a downloaded savegame with all schematics in order to get to see the last 5% of schematics I knew I'd never find - in all likelihood - by playing normally.

 

I see a pattern here. If I cheat in Bioware games, it's for avoiding tedious tasks in repeated playthroughs.

 

Sort of an exception: I used the Cheat Engine to make it possible to wear my armor in Skyhold. I don't consider this a cheat, though, but rather a bugfix.

[Patricia08]

And another thing: after the Golden Nug came out, I used a downloaded savegame with all schematics in order to get to see the last 5% of schematics I knew I'd never find - in all likelihood - by playing normally.

 

I see a pattern here. If I cheat in Bioware games, it's for avoiding tedious tasks in repeated playthroughs.

 

Sort of an exception: I used the Cheat Engine to make it possible to wear my armor in Skyhold. I don't consider this a cheat, though, but rather a bugfix.

 

I see a pattern here to   . 

[Melyanna]

I never cheated, but I do use walkthrougs and guides if I get stuck or find something frustrating.
(It would appear from this thread that "Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts" is for me what the Fade in DA:O is for many players).

Feastday Gifts in Origins felt a great deal like cheating though.

[Gervaise]

I never use mods or cheats as such but I do metagame, party to see how different options work but also because sometimes quests in DAI have been so convoluted that you have to cheat (either coming to the boards or looking at the Wiki) in order to simply get through them.  

 

Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts springs to mind with those wretched halla statues.    There is nothing to indicated there won't be enough statues to open every door, particularly as the majority of the important ones are later in the plot, nor is there any warning that if you use your statues here (for example the door in the garden) you will be short later, plus some of the statues are in places you wouldn't necessarily think to look (the kitchen rafters?) or require you to deliberately go off the main track up or down side stairs (when you are on a timer) or ignore the sounds coming from a room which you would naturally want to look into in order to retrieve a statue and then go back to open a different door.  

 

Then there is the hardening or softening of Leliana, the latter being impossible to achieve if you don't take a certain option near the beginning of the game at Haven.    Thereafter it doesn't matter what you say or do because if you failed to take it, she is hardened.

 

I never had this problem with DAO.    I played it straight the first couple of runs, although I did then discover there were certain dialogue options which meant a character was hardened or not (something that  I hadn't even been aware was a possibility), so ensured I took them to discover what the outcome would be.      Mostly though it was just a case of knowing what choices were going to come up and thinking of a valid reason why latest PC might take a different one to an earlier PC.  

 

With DA2 the main "cheat" was in discovering what I needed to do so I didn't scupper my chances with Fenris.   This wasn't a problem the first run but second run I made the "mistake" of sleeping with Isabella.    On the whole, though, I really didn't have to do much in the way "cheats" in order to get the outcome I wanted, just role played my character differently each time.      Only with DAI have I repeatedly had to come back to the boards just to discover how to get through my first run, even if it was only to discover my problem was a known bug.

[Seraphim24]

Also it's not really cheating but I consider being sort of cheesy absolutely necessary at times like during the demi-lich fight in BG2 holy smackwells.

 

Also I never really came close to any such strategies starting around NWN or so, the difficultly in Bioware games dropping somewhat precipitously after that point.

[Ieldra]

Also it's not really cheating but I consider being sort of cheesy absolutely necessary at times like during the demi-lich fight in BG2 holy smackwells.

BG2 was the king of cheesy combat...did you ever read this:

 

http://www.sorcerers...tuff/Cheese.htm

[Seraphim24]

BG2 was the king of cheesy combat...did you ever read this:

 

http://www.sorcerers...tuff/Cheese.htm

 

I did not, I think one of those might of happened at one point or another though.

 

But yeah I mean find me someone who just wandered into the Illithid Lair and was like yep I'm good and destroy everything on the first attempt.

 

Or a time where Khalid never died for them not once.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Yes, I've used God Mode on the JoH dragon fight the first time I soloed it on Nightmare with trials on to allow me to learn the mechanics of that boss w/o risking death. Don't need that now, don't use it except to learn a promoted boss fight. I'm the sort that will go read and watch videos to learn boss fights in any game I play so that I don't come in as the useless idiot noob. I know my role, what I need to do and, where I need to be when. Not really needed in DAI but, old habits.

 

Before we got the wardrobe dresser in Skyhold, I used a mod to keep armor on in Skyhold too, hate the beige outfit. Don't need that anymore either.

[Seraphim24]

TLDR most people haven't finished all BIoware games and if they did they probably cheated lol.

 

Interesting thread Patricia

 

Honestly though without a background knowledge of D&D I imagine it would of been very difficult to do anything in BG.

[Patricia08]

TLDR most people haven't finished all BIoware games and if they did they probably cheated lol.

 

Interesting thread Patricia

 

Honestly though without a background knowledge of D&D I imagine it would of been very difficult to do anything in BG.

 

I am one of them who did not finish all Bioware games and i wish i could cheat a little more on consoles because then i could finish some of the games i did not finish yet.

 

Thank you i'm glad you liked it   . 

[Aulis Vaara]

Yes. Often and shamelessly.

[AlanC9]

Oh, I recall I did cheat in ME3 and DAI. I used a published scanning map in ME3 from my second playthrough onwards in order to avoid having to revisit a star system because I ran out of time in the first visit. And I used a map of all the gears in the Descent areas in DAI from my second playthrough onwards. I did *not* cheat with the places of interest on the Uncharted Worlds in ME1 because I had them all memorized. In any case, collecting stuff through exploration is really only enjoyable the first time, and maybe a second time if you're hardcore. After that, it becomes a chore.

Well, you could just not do the collections anymore -- ME3 excepted, of course. Come to think of it, I did the same thing you did with the gears and bottles on my second run, just so I'd have done them once. I've still never finished Harlequin Tag, though.

[AlanC9]

But yeah I mean find me someone who just wandered into the Illithid Lair and was like yep I'm good and destroy everything on the first attempt.

*raises hand* Really, your entire party should have Chaotic Commands up all the time in BG2, and you get the brine potions soon too. Without their stun ability mind flayers aren't all that dangerous.

[Seraphim24]

*raises hand* Really, your entire party should have Chaotic Commands up all the time in BG2, and you get the bring potions soon too. Without their stun ability mind flayers aren't all that dangerous.

 

Haven't you already said you played like every D&D game ever? That's going to be a help as I alluded to before, familiarity with D&D that is.

 

But yes there are numerous ways of countering stun such as the cloak of whatever the thing.

 

So next you'll be telling me you solo'd Melissan the first time?

[Force of the North]

I did the talk to Duncan multiple times after getting the Darkspawn blood but before getting the grey warden treaties. Also hitting a rapidly after delivering someone something in DA 2 in order to gain more exp and coin.

Is there an in game way to cheat in DAI, because I did not find one. Well after they patch the infinite skill cheat.

[sjsharp2011]

Yes, I've used God Mode on the JoH dragon fight the first time I soloed it on Nightmare with trials on to allow me to learn the mechanics of that boss w/o risking death. Don't need that now, don't use it except to learn a promoted boss fight. I'm the sort that will go read and watch videos to learn boss fights in any game I play so that I don't come in as the useless idiot noob. I know my role, what I need to do and, where I need to be when. Not really needed in DAI but, old habits.

 

Before we got the wardrobe dresser in Skyhold, I used a mod to keep armor on in Skyhold too, hate the beige outfit. Don't need that anymore either.

Yeah I never used he god cheat on that dragon. Have to admit when I first took it on I was worried as I do generally find the dragon fights tough but the JoH dragon I found quite easy by comparison. Not that I'm complaining though as the level as a whole is challenging enough anyway it didn't really need a  tough finishing boss fight tbh. Personally I find Descent the most challenging of the DLC's

[Exile Isan]

Bah! I cheat in Balder's Gate all the time. If I didn't I never would have been able to complete the damn game (because I'm inept). 

[AlanC9]

Haven't you already said you played like every D&D game ever? That's going to be a help as I alluded to before, familiarity with D&D that is.

Oh, sure. I knew about mind flayers from PnP, though back in the day we didn't have any of these fancy defense spells that you kids get. You just had to ride out the attack and figure out a way to live through it. Although it works both ways -- no PnP DM would ever throw, for instance, Chaos spells at a party as often as BG2 does without some way for a prudent party to stop them.

The more general point is that AD&D isn't really a complex system. The thing that makes it hard is that there's a lot of noise; effective play requires sorting through the worthless and situational spells to find out what you need and how much of it you need.

[Seraphim24]

Oh, sure. I knew about mind flayers from PnP, though back in the day we didn't have any of these fancy defense spells that you kids get. You just had to ride out the attack and figure out a way to live through it.

 

Well ok but I'm asking, as one of these newfangled fancy kids from the future, whether or not your party got wrecked fighting Melissan in ToB, because no matter how much D&D knowledge you have that fight is kind of ridiculous.

[raging_monkey]

If I can get a edge I will always use some exploit til it's patched

[QueenCrow]

Yes, I cheat.  A full time job, two time consuming hobbies aside from gaming, a kid, a husband, and a house to maintain mean that if I didn't find time-saving cheats in games (such as god mode), I'd never get to finish and would eventually stop buying games.

 

I come for the story and pixel barbie fashion play.  The combat is just a time consuming means to a storytelling end.  So I cheat through the combat with god mode when I can.  I've cheated gold and lock-picks too.

[Seraphim24]

Yes, I cheat.  A full time job, two time consuming hobbies aside from gaming, a kid, a husband, and a house to maintain mean that if I didn't find time-saving cheats in games (such as god mode), I'd never get to finish and would eventually stop buying games.

 

I come for the story and pixel barbie fashion play.  The combat is just a time consuming means to a storytelling end.  So I cheat through the combat with god mode when I can.  I've cheated gold and lock-picks too.

 

I think from the perspective of the makers they are just happy you buy and engage with it on some level, it's not necessarily critical that you don't cheat although that's not really true for Online games with shared things like auction house etc.