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Did you ever cheat in one of the Bioware games ?


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#101
AlanC9

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Well ok but I'm asking, as one of these newfangled fancy kids from the future, whether or not your party got wrecked fighting Melissan in ToB, because no matter how much D&D knowledge you have that fight is kind of ridiculous.


You think that's ridiculous? Try the Ascension version.

Can't answer the question; it's been too many years. I don't recall it being all that bad. Anyway, that game system was random enough so anyone can lose a battle from time to time. All you need is a couple of blown saves.

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I tend not to cheat/use exploits in my first run of any game (except the GTA games, where I can't help myself), but after that it's all fair game.

 

I currently use Cheat Engine to give myself as much gold as I could possibly need and give endless amounts of materials, and a mod to add in all the armour and weapon schematics and materials. So I have good armour and weapons from the get-go, with whatever fade touched material bonuses I want. It makes everything very easy, so I play on nightmare to at least try to make it vaguely interesting.

 

I don't cheat to make combat easier per se, but instead so I don't have to spend time farming, which I find more tedious than I can say. The side effect is that it does make things easy, which is why I bump it up to nightmare. I'm level 13 in my current game, and I've switched down to random armour drops rather than my higher level crafted armour, and I'm still killing everything in one or two hits on nightmare. Obviously it'll get harder as the game goes on and enemies increase in level while my gear stays the same, and I'm looking forward to that.


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Well, you could just not do the collections anymore -- ME3 excepted, of course.

No, I couldn't. I'm an obsessive completionist. I do everything I can justify for my characters in every single game. Content-wise, that is. Special gameplay challenges hold no appeal.



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You think that's ridiculous? Try the Ascension version.

Can't answer the question; it's been too many years. I don't recall it being all that bad. Anyway, that game system was random enough so anyone can lose a battle from time to time. All you need is a couple of blown saves.

 

Whoa slow down there old timer this young whippersnapper is barely wrapping their head around the fact that there even is an Ascension mod for ToB.

 

Next you'll be tellin me ya had to go up and dern the snow hill both ways upside down using nothing but a compass and a dried up weather beaten weather vane.



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No, I couldn't. I'm an obsessive completionist. I do everything I can justify for my characters in every single game. Content-wise, that is. Special gameplay challenges hold no appeal.


I understand, but does that includes stuff like gears once you've opened all the gates?

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I understand, but does that includes stuff like gears once you've opened all the gates?

No, that I do only once.



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Dangit! I know you thought that was slightly funny AlanC9!

 

Rats!

 

Anyway I don't know if it counts but I also used the debugmode in NWN to try out some specs I didn't want to bother leveling.



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I cheat primarily for fashion and aesthetics, sometimes for loot/resources. I find loot and resource gathering tedious, especially in DAI. Plus I hate feeling poor :P


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Great that thread made me lost time and that's right why I usually don't cheat, I search cheat in DAI so I manage the xp (wanted reduce it for my current play) and I just lost my time. That's why I don't cheat it's just hassle and often you can't do what you want.



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Yes, I cheat.  A full time job, two time consuming hobbies aside from gaming, a kid, a husband, and a house to maintain mean that if I didn't find time-saving cheats in games (such as god mode), I'd never get to finish and would eventually stop buying games.

 

I come for the story and pixel barbie fashion play.  The combat is just a time consuming means to a storytelling end.  So I cheat through the combat with god mode when I can.  I've cheated gold and lock-picks too.

 

Pffeew you are a busy woman  ;)



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I cheat in their older games to gain access to something that the new games have naturally: a respec option. Just today I took one of Khalid's weapon proficiency points out of Axes and put it in Bastard Swords instead. (Someone has to be vaguely competent with the shapeshifter-killing sword! And it's not going to be my halfling Swashbuckler, that's for sure.) I have no compunction about moving skill points around to what I would have chosen if the game had given me the option instead of letting AI distribute them idiotically.

 

The only time I have really cheated in a BioWare game was the last boss fight in KoTOR. It was late at night, I'd already died six times, and I just couldn't be bothered any more. My Sentinel really wasn't built to fight without a party behind her.

 

I guess that adding Dog as a fifth party member in DAO is also technically cheating, but by the time I installed that mod I was playing on Nightmare with other mods that made the game harder, so it felt pretty balanced.


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I cheat in their older games to gain access to something that the new games have naturally: a respec option. Just today I took one of Khalid's weapon proficiency points out of Axes and put it in Bastard Swords instead. (Someone has to be vaguely competent with the shapeshifter-killing sword! And it's not going to be my halfling Swashbuckler, that's for sure.) I have no compunction about moving skill points around to what I would have chosen if the game had given me the option instead of letting AI distribute them idiotically.

 

The only time I have really cheated in a BioWare game was the last boss fight in KoTOR. It was late at night, I'd already died six times, and I just couldn't be bothered any more. My Sentinel really wasn't built to fight without a party behind her.

 

I guess that adding Dog as a fifth party member in DAO is also technically cheating, but by the time I installed that mod I was playing on Nightmare with other mods that made the game harder, so it felt pretty balanced.

 

So you have never beat KOTOR sans cheating?



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So you have never beat KOTOR sans cheating?

 

Nope. Only ever played it once.



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Nope, never !

I don't even know how to cheat on PS3 XD



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Well ok but I'm asking, as one of these newfangled fancy kids from the future, whether or not your party got wrecked fighting Melissan in ToB, because no matter how much D&D knowledge you have that fight is kind of ridiculous.

I recall it was a close thing when I did this the first time, but not so much of a problem thereafter. The semi-official Ascension mod, however, that was a different story. I don't recall having finished that without cheating.

 

The worst boss fight in my experience was in Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption. It took me half an hour....in god mode.



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Ah, modding BG2. I think it was my first pc game modding experience. Good times. Weidu FTW!


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Ah, modding BG2. I think it was my first pc game modding experience. Good times. Weidu FTW!

Same here. It's just too bad their newer games are so hard to mod. DAI has enough empty space for additional content. The biggest problem would be acquiring competent voice actors. I think I know of *one* I've encountered in countless mods over the years.


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I suppose not. A "cheat" has to be something you're trying to do. It's more like the game becoming unavoidably easier.

As for the topic, if i use mods, they're to make the game harder, not easier. I don't even use the Golden Nug. Though I will reload if I accidentally click the wrong dialogue option in a list, or if I didn't understand the paraphrases -- I don't recall that ever happening except for the end of Merrill's questline.

 

Yes exactly. 



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Better question; when did I NOT cheat on subsequent playthroughs?

 

Once I complete a game once, I consider myself 'done'  with the vanilla version. Off to modding and cheating I go. I don't even mind if I 1-hit-kill everything, I've got too many games to play and WAAAAAY too many playthroughs planned for DA (I have about 13 Wardens.... Or 14? I lost count. Too many.)


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Depends on how you define cheating. Because while I have never done god mode or anything like that, I have looked up a few walkthroughs. Mostly for tedious things like why I couldn't open all of the halla doors in Halamshiral (turns out they were meant to be that way), but there was one occasion where I looked up an approval guide.

 

But other than that, no cheating. If I did I wouldn't feel as accomplished.



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Not on first playthroughs.

 

DAO - extra dog slot, grey wardens of ferelden (armor), skip the fade and just recently the golden egg so that I could friend Oghren all over again in Awakening

 

DA2 - only use the console to adjust friendship/rivalry. And only after a rivalmance with anders totally bugged out (said he hated hawke but also wanted to kiss her but never did lol)

 

DAI - had it only on PS4 so I haven't cheated. I actually really enjoy playing it and it's the only one out of DA that I play on hardest difficulty

 

However for ME I cheat the hell out of ME1 (super armor, extra levels, super gun etc etc) and in ME2 i just add para/renegade points if aiming for Paragade shep. Also resources. I don't cheat in ME3.

 

I suppose I only resort to cheats when a game does something to annoy me.

 

 

Also in KOTOR/KOTOR2 I used cheats but when I played them they were sooooo old I just couldn't get through it any other way :(


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I have in a few games. I had to do god mode in NWN2 because the end was glitched and it was impossible to live long enough in the final battle to win. I've used some armor mods in Origins, sometimes I guess it would be cheating but some of them were just as hard to get but looked nicer. :D


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Not on first playthroughs.

 

DAO - extra dog slot, grey wardens of ferelden (armor), skip the fade and just recently the golden egg so that I could friend Oghren all over again in Awakening

 

DA2 - only use the console to adjust friendship/rivalry. And only after a rivalmance with anders totally bugged out (said he hated hawke but also wanted to kiss her but never did lol)

 

DAI - had it only on PS4 so I haven't cheated. I actually really enjoy playing it and it's the only one out of DA that I play on hardest difficulty

 

However for ME I cheat the hell out of ME1 (super armor, extra levels, super gun etc etc) and in ME2 i just add para/renegade points if aiming for Paragade shep. Also resources. I don't cheat in ME3.

 

I suppose I only resort to cheats when a game does something to annoy me.

 

 

Also in KOTOR/KOTOR2 I used cheats but when I played them they were sooooo old I just couldn't get through it any other way :(

 

Funny that you mention that because i played a game ( i'm glad that i did not bought it myself it was a game from my brother ) a few years ago it was Ninja Gaiden and it was on Playstation i think but that game was soo difficult and soo annoying i wish i could cheat with that game as well. 



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Funny that you mention that because i played a game ( i'm glad that i did not bought it myself it was a game from my brother ) a few years ago it was Ninja Gaiden and it was on Playstation i think but that game was soo difficult and soo annoying i wish i could cheat with that game as well. 

 

Yeah I don't mind it when a game is challenging but sometimes it just gets a little crazy and cheats are needed xD



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Yeah I don't mind it when a game is challenging but sometimes it just gets a little crazy and cheats are needed xD

 

Me neither i like it when a game is challenging but that game at least for me was again soo difficult that i wish i could cheat my way through i have never finished that game though. And yes cheats were needed but couldn't use them ( stupid consoles ).