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Dalinne

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Depending on your PC background and psychological profile, you have some secondary missions in ME1 with Shepard (i.e.: that Mindoir survivor mission if you were a colonist, that Finch guy from the bands if you were earthborn, or tha Zabaleta veteran guy if you were a spacer... and then the Biotic Cult group if you were Ruthless, the First Contact War bomb if you were a Hero, that Alliance soldiers dead by a Thresermaws trap if you were a Survivor).

 

The different approach I was thinking for the PC in ME:A would be a playable flashback were you can experiment the memories of your protagonist and knowing him/her a little better. For example, the flashback of psychological profile could be centered in a small part in the Reaper War you played, which justified your entrance in the Ark Project.

 

I don't know, I'M JUST BORED, OK???  :D

 


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no, actually could be an interesting idea....well done...it should be flashed out though...



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As long as there are no kids you have to chase round, then I hope so.
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As long as there are no kids you have to chase round, then I hope so.

 

It's much more fun chasing a desire demon than a little kid if you are in a dream.



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How about no flashbacks or dream sequences instead?



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As long as things don't get all Animus-y, or action hero running through a dark forest-y, then sure why the hell not? 

 

Could be interesting in making our new protagonists being more fleshed out than Shepard was at first in ME1. 



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Sounds interesting.  Could be pretty fun if done right.



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I'd like flashbacks about our character's past, maybe with options during it that would define certain characterstic or events in the game. I don't like them as dreamlike sequences as in ME3 though.


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Yes, I'm fine with flashbacks, but dream sequences are usually so cheesy and dumb, and are just useless fillers between scenes and or acts in a plot. ME3's stupid kid ones especially. 


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Yes, I'm fine with flashbacks, but dream sequences are usually so cheesy and dumb, and are just useless fillers between scenes and or acts in a plot. ME3's stupid kid ones especially. 

At least with the last flashback you can go grab a drink while it finishes itself off. 



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I like the idea.



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No thank you. I vastly prefer my character's background be ambiguous, and having this is pretty much the opposite of that. 



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No thank you. I vastly prefer my character's background be ambiguous, and having this is pretty much the opposite of that.

I agree. As a Ruthless Shepard you could roleplay in different ways, like;
a) Shepard had a grudge against Batarians since Mindoir so slaughtered them all; or
b ) Shepard was a bad leader and sent in waves and waves of men in because he couldn't think up a proper plan.
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I agree. As a Ruthless Shepard you could roleplay in different ways, like;
a) Shepard had a grudge against Batarians since Mindoir so slaughtered them all; or
b ) Shepard was a bad leader and sent in waves and waves of men in because he couldn't think up a proper plan.

I agree on that, though having flashblack doesn't mean you won't have the same freedom. For example Shepard's flashblack could've been about when he was in the N7 program, not during the Elysium, Azuke or Torfan operations.

By the way, I loved the first option you mentioned for my Colonist/Ruthless Shep.



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Yah, and have what you say in those flashbacks matter on what the other NPC's say next. 

 

Could be cool.



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No thank you. I vastly prefer my character's background be ambiguous, and having this is pretty much the opposite of that. 

 

I think I understand what you mean: the more in-game tells you about your protagonist, the less personal creativity you have to configure him/her. However, as The Elder King said

 

I agree on that, though having flashblack doesn't mean you won't have the same freedom. For example Shepard's flashblack could've been about when he was in the N7 program, not during the Elysium, Azuke or Torfan operations.

By the way, I loved the first option you mentioned for my Colonist/Ruthless Shep.

 

If you can make decisions (significant ones) in the FB, you are simply stablishing the origin of some traits of the protagonist behaviour or character. Also, the FB will never cover ALL the character's background. You will always have space for creativity. Hell, I think my favourite Shepard is a Spacer and Hero, the less hardcore background of all (the prize for the most traumatic past goes for all the poor Colonist/Sole Survivor's Shepards), and I think it was because I make her past a little complicated (with a father dying in shore leave and all).

 

But for me, it's very important to have a specific past for each protagonist. Past actions of a PC can direct the decisions she or he will make.

Sorry if my English is a mess, I don't know in which language I'm thinking anymore...  :blush:



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I think I understand what you mean: the more in-game tells you about your protagonist, the less personal creativity you have to configure him/her. However, as The Elder King said

 

 

If you can make decisions (significant ones) in the FB, you are simply stablishing the origin of some traits of the protagonist behaviour or character. Also, the FB will never cover ALL the character's background. You will always have space for creativity. Hell, I think my favourite Shepard is a Spacer and Hero, the less hardcore background of all (the prize for the most traumatic past goes for all the poor Colonist/Sole Survivor's Shepards), and I think it was because I make her past a little complicated (with a father dying in shore leave and all).

 

But for me, it's very important to have a specific past for each protagonist. Past actions of a PC can direct the decisions she or he will make.

Sorry if my English is a mess, I don't know in which language I'm thinking anymore...  :blush:

You'll never have as much freedom as if it is left ambiguous. When left ambiguous, you have infinite possibilities. When having an origin like this you only have what is available. 

 

As for the underlined, yeah I agree. Just how Jacob put it in ME2 alone. "Okay. Records show you were a colony kid. Lost your family when slavers attacked Mindoir. You enlisted, and your entire team was killed by a Thresher Maw attack. Do you remember that?" I was like "Now I do  :crying: ".


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You'll never have as much freedom as if it is left ambiguous. When left ambiguous, you have infinite possibilities. When having an origin like this you only have what is available. 

 

As for the underlined, yeah I agree. Just how Jacob put it in ME2 alone. "Okay. Records show you were a colony kid. Lost your family when slavers attacked Mindoir. You enlisted, and your entire team was killed by a Thresher Maw attack. Do you remember that?" I was like "Now I do  :crying: ".

That background was surely interesting for roleplaying a certain type of Shepard. I had to change that Shep a bit though since ME2's plot on joining Cerberus made it imporssible to keep the same personality and values I envisioned before.

 

My main was still a Spacer/War Hero, though as I said I loved how I could relate the Colonist and Ruthless backgrounds together.


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That background was surely interesting for roleplaying a certain type of Shepard. I had to change that Shep a bit though since ME2's plot on joining Cerberus made it imporssible to keep the same personality and values I envisioned before.

 

My main was still a Spacer/War Hero, though as I said I loved how I could relate the Colonist and Ruthless backgrounds together.

Yeah, eventually Bioware just took control of my Shepard's personality and values anyway. Here's hoping they don't do that with this new protagonist. 

 

My main was Colonist/War Hero since I thought it had a great story. They experienced the horror of a slave run on Mindoir, so when they were on Elysium and saw it about to happen there they did everything they could to save the people of Elysium from the same fate their friends and family suffered. 


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You'll never have as much freedom as if it is left ambiguous. When left ambiguous, you have infinite possibilities. When having an origin like this you only have what is available. 

 

As for the underlined, yeah I agree. Just how Jacob put it in ME2 alone. "Okay. Records show you were a colony kid. Lost your family when slavers attacked Mindoir. You enlisted, and your entire team was killed by a Thresher Maw attack. Do you remember that?" I was like "Now I do  :crying: ".

"Thanks for bringing that up, JACOB." :angry:

"Oh, YOU Cerberus killed MY entire TEAM in AKUZE, by the way..."

Yeah, definitely was sad that they don't let us roleplay that aspect with Cerberus for the Sole Survivors...



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"Thanks for bringing that up, JACOB." :angry:
"Oh, YOU Cerberus killed MY entire TEAM in AKUZE, by the way..."
Yeah, definitely was sad that they don't let us roleplay that aspect with Cerberus for the Sole Survivors...


Shepard: "Then you took my friend, Corporal Toombs and inprisoned him, tortured him and performed horrific tests on him for ten years, driving him into insanity and then he ended up killing himself."
Miranda: "That was a rogue cell. Actual Cerberus has never done anything wrong and only does good work. Honest!"
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Shepard: "Then you took my friend, Corporal Toombs and inprisoned him, tortured him and performed horrific tests on him for ten years, driving him into insanity and then he ended up killing himself."
Miranda: "That was a rogue cell. Actual Cerberus has never done anything wrong and only does good work. Honest!"

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...and that's the reason why all my Akuze Shepards had a complicated relationship with Lawson... :D  :D  :D  :D



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They should have done this with Shep..

 

But I don't care about the new character as much or their setting. Just get to business. The world I cared to run around in is gone.



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They should have done this with Shep..

 

But I don't care about the new character as much or their setting. Just get to business. The world I cared to run around in is gone.

Eh, I'm really interested in both the new setting and the new character. Though I understand your view.

 

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...and that's the reason why all my Akuze Shepards had a complicated relationship with Lawson... :D  :D  :D  :D

Yeah. Miranda is my favourite LI in ME (close second Jack) I can't romance her with my Azuke Shepard :P



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Eh, I'm really interested in both the new setting and the new character. Though I understand your view.

 

Yeah. Miranda is my favourite LI in ME (close second Jack) I can't romance her with my Azuke Shepard :P

 

Well, the setting just kind of evokes "all business" to me. Very remote, colonizing, alliances, science, etc. So it interests me as much as that goes. At this moment, I can't think of characters that need flashbacks for this.

 

I would've welcomed it with Shep... if only because I envisioned him to be a thug on Earth.. smuggling red hand or something. Maybe his girlfriend OD'ed and he decided to change his life and join the military. It would give my Shep an air of street wise badassery that wasn't in the games. I could only pretend it.