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As the title states. Looking back at Mass Effect 2 after all this time what are your thoughts? For me I think it is the best game the trilogy. While the combat mechanics aren't as polished as they are in three. They story and characters are in my opinion the best not just within the trilogy but within the realm of gaming as a whole.     


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It has been six years? Damn I'm old


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It has. I was taken aback when I realized that as well. Remember skipping class in jr high to finish the suicide mission.     



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Well I'm only looking back a year, as it's a year ago this month that I first played ME2.  Playing all 3 in a short period of time melded them into one experience I think.  

 

ME2 is a great game and I'm very fond of it, the combat is great and the PC controls work well (unlike the damn 'one button does all' in ME3).  But looking across all 3 it's my least favourite.  I still really like it, but prefer the stronger storylines of 1 and 3.  I often feel lost in ME2 doing all the recruitment missions and loyalty missions, and remember first time round getting to the IFF and thinking 'What am I doing this for again??'.

 

I'm playing it now, my fourth run, and it's still very enjoyable.  I'm finding new things even now and I love the game.  I just feel like the Cerberus focus derailed the overall story of the franchise a little, and left the devs with a whole lot of story to fit into ME3.  


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Making some allowances for the relative age of each one, I think I actually like them all about equally.  Individually, each has different weaknesses and strengths and I like that each one changes things up a bit... so that playing the trilogy is not like playing the same game 3 times, but rather playing 3 "connected" but different games once each in succession.


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When I can suspend my disbelief at Shepard being brought back from the frikkin' DEAD, and working for Cerberus who somehow got from being a small black-ops Alliance cell to a huge terrorist group that owns every corporation in the galaxy and everybody in the galaxy knows who they are.

And the fact we are fighting to stop the Collectors from building a reaper that won't even be able to be finished because the Collectors have to abduct the entire population of Earth with one ship that, although powerful, wouldn't single handedly be able to defeat the entire human Arcturus fleet to make it to Earth.

Anyway, so when I don't think about all this, I can play the game because the combat is really fun.

However, only 5 out of 12 squad members are actually interesting enough for me to bring along. The planet scanning is boring and takes ages. The atmosphere isn't as good as before and I don't feel invested in the game very much.

Obviously there are a lot of negative points but I can forget all that stuff because overall I loved the game for a lot of the missions, the weapons, making different character builds, the shooting things.

But the only real thing I hate about it is how it never advanced the plot at all, which led to how terrible Mass Effect 3's whole plot ended up, and the fact that it turned the series down the path of just another cashgrab EA product with cringy one-liners and stupid things like swords and jumping over across flying cars and stuff which makes the game look like a joke.
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ME2 is excellent. The suicide mission can be done so many ways that leaves everyone dead or alive. Excellent.  One of the best character's is Rupert Gardner. Too bad he couldn't be in ME3 to make some more of his calamari gumbo for my Shepard


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It has been six years? Damn I'm old

even older given you're a Salarian :P

 

But yeah I agree with the OP ME2 is probably my favourite game that I have. At least certainly my favourite Bioware game. Completed my latest playthrough of ME2 last night and it felt just as awesome as the first time I played it.



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Each game was the best (when they came out).

 

That being said...

I played 1 through about 15 times.

I played 2 through about 20 times.

I played 3 through about 15 times.

 

So 2, I guess, was the most replayable. The suicide mission (and the game-long setup for it) was intoxicating to try to refine for the best ending, the worst ending, your favorite ending.

 

I did one where no one survived...

One where all survived...

One where only females survived and one for males...

One where only humans survived (one of the toughest and my favorite)...

 

Please release 2 & 3 as Xbox One back-compatible :)



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I did one where no one survived...

One where all survived...

One where only females survived and one for males...

One where only humans survived (one of the toughest and my favorite)...

Try doing a playthrough like the one in my signature


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I enjoyed ME2 a lot. The story sucks but the characters were excellent. Zaeed is my guy. Legion was very interesting. There are other standouts. The gameplay was good too.


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I'm only looking back one year, but ME2 is my favorite. I just wish it actually progressed the story along, but as a stand-alone it's very good. 


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I think it's really cool that my least favourite game in the franchise is other people's favourite.  It shows the diversity and quality in the trilogy that folks can have such passionate feelings about all 3 games. 

 

Many s*** all over the ME trilogy from a great height it seems, but in reality it's an incredible franchise with enough depth to appeal to many varied people, in many varied ways.  That's pretty awesome if you ask me.


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I think it's really cool that my least favourite game in the franchise is other people's favourite.  It shows the diversity and quality in the trilogy that folks can have such passionate feelings about all 3 games. 

 

Many s*** all over the ME trilogy from a great height it seems, but in reality it's an incredible franchise with enough depth to appeal to many varied people, in many varied ways.  That's pretty awesome if you ask me.

 

Most people dump on it because they ruined something good. If it all sucked, nobody would care.



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The World Building was great - especially Omega and Illium...these places had great ambience and felt both real and lived-in. Awesome job of fleshing out the ME Universe. There are also some excellently written characters in this game (Mordin!)...and LotSb is still my favorite mission in the series.

The biggest disappointment/letdown for me was probably the lack of "squad chatter/banter". I would have liked my crew to talk to each other or some location-based dialogue here and there. Also, I am not exactly a big fan of the Lazarus project/Cerberus railroading storyline (what's wrong with a comatose? That would've made things so much easier)...and the human reaper looked dumb ;)
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The World Building was great - especially Omega and Illium...these places had great ambience and felt both real and lived-in. Awesome job of fleshing out the ME Universe. There are also some excellently written characters in this game (Mordin!)...and LotSb is still my favorite mission in the series.

The biggest disappointment/letdown for me was probably the lack of "squad chatter/banter". I would have liked my crew to talk to each other or some location-based dialogue here and there. Also, I am not exactly a big fan of the Lazarus project/Cerberus railroading storyline (what's wrong with a comatose? That would've made things so much easier)...and the human reaper looked dumb ;)

 

Pretty much agree.

 

Although I thought've been cool if it wasn't Cerberus we allied with.... but the Geth! And it was Legion as our first recruit. Other things could roughly be the same. Alliance wouldn't help, Tali would be pissed until later, etc.. Maybe Cerberus would still play a part, but more like....Miranda infiltrated the team or something.


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I don't really remember ME2 to be honest, I was just like whoa ME.

 

And then there was ME3.

 

Something happened there... one day I will remember, maybe not.


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Human reaper? Mmmm. Never met a 3 eyed human. Maybe the whatever reaper represents another species that has 3 eyes and only looks similiar to a human.  Too bad it wasn't a fight against the collector general

 

Too bad Shepard can't ask questions in ME2


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One thing I'll say about the human reaper is it was kind of hectic fight at first.. at least on harder levels. And not as annoying to target as Saren.

 

I like boss battles in general. Not so much in shooters like this, but still, it was something. ME3 was trying too hard to not be a game in comparison, towards the end. It was merely choices and listening to bullshit. It could have used a more drama at the end.



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The Human reaper boss fight was kind of a joke IMHO.

 

On the other hand, Samara is a better biotic than Jack? What? Well whatever, reload is there for a reason.



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Jack is the supposed to be the best human biotic.. but I never thought she was as good as Samara. Samara is like a matriarch.



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The Human reaper boss fight was kind of a joke IMHO.

On the other hand, Samara is a better biotic than Jack? What? Well whatever, reload is there for a reason.


Yes, the asari matriarch is a better biotic than the human. They are equally capable of making the bubble though. Although Samara can't magically put biotic fields around bullets.
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Bridge syndrome, the idea that the series's main storyline spins its wheels for a game to hold back that storyline's payoff while this separate-but-connected threat is focused on and resolved within the span of this game. Too much focus on new story elements (Cerberus, predominantly) that are forced into the spotlight that they don't deserve. Killing Shepard is a cheap gimmick to allow re-spec of skills and results in a ton of crap that isn't cleaned up until the next game, to varying extents. Much as I love them all, too many characters for the game to manage, that they all go quiet if they're not the focus. The suicide mission shouldn't be in the middle of the trilogy, creating more structural problems for the game that follows.

 

It's not a bad game, I hasten to add. But you ask what I think of when I think Mass Effect 2, it's definitely bridge syndrome.


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Bridge syndrome, the idea that the series's main storyline spins its wheels for a game to hold back that storyline's payoff while this separate-but-connected threat is focused on and resolved within the span of this game. Too much focus on new story elements (Cerberus, predominantly) that are forced into the spotlight that they don't deserve. Killing Shepard is a cheap gimmick to allow re-spec of skills and results in a ton of crap that isn't cleaned up until the next game, to varying extents. Much as I love them all, too many characters for the game to manage, that they all go quiet if they're not the focus. The suicide mission shouldn't be in the middle of the trilogy, creating more structural problems for the game that follows.

 

It's not a bad game, I hasten to add. But you ask what I think of when I think Mass Effect 2, it's definitely bridge syndrome.

 

I think it's a fair complaint, even if it's my favorite of the bunch.



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kat! You should totally come to my KOTOR thread, no one's even viewed my KOTOR thread! Even if it's just to say "Yeah I don't remember this game tbh"

 

But yeah honestly I never used Jack or Samara really so I don't know what the deal was with them anyway, as stated I kind of don't remember it all.