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[Donquijote and 59 others]

He wanted the anchor but couldn't obtain it because it was permanent however that shouldn't be an issue for someone like him.

Infect the owner and take the body with the anchor and problem solved.

[lynroy]

Force the inquisitor to go through the joining that they may not survive? How does he do that?

[Dai Grepher]

It might not work that way. If he possesses the Herald, it might cause that body to morph into Corypheus.

A simpler option would have been to infect the Herald with the taint, and then control him as he would a Grey Warden. Then use him to open a way to the Black City.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

It might not work that way. If he possesses the Herald, it might cause that body to morph into Corypheus.

A simpler option would have been to infect the Herald with the taint, and then control him as he would a Grey Warden. Then use him to open a way to the Black City.

Corypheus possessed Janeka without problem this mean that he can decide to shape or not the body if he don't desire to morph into Corypheus he can remain into the person, in this way he even deceived Bianca.

 

Force the inquisitor to go through the joining that they may not survive? How does he do that?

What joining he doesn't need to do that, if he  infect the inquisitor with his own taint he can possess the body and use the anchor.

[lynroy]

That's not how the taint works. He can only pass on to another body that has the taint like a Grey warden, so the Inquisitor would need to become a Grey Warden in order for Corypheus to take over their body.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

That's not how the taint works. He can only pass on to another body that has the taint like a Grey warden, so the Inquisitor would need to become a Grey Warden in order for Corypheus to take over their body.

Nope he just need to infect the Inquisitor if he become a ghoul rather than a GW the process will function the same he just need to use the corruption as a vehicle.

[Patricia08]

I realized that Corypheus is beyond stupid

 

I agree if he had played his cards right he would have won. 

[thats1evildude]

Assuming he could manage to taint the Inquisitor, I'm not sure that would even work. The soul transfer might end up destroying the Anchor; when he took over a Warden's body in the Arbor Wilds, there was nothing left of that Warden.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 

I realized that Corypheus is beyond stupid

 

I agree if he had played his cards right he would have won. 

 

Is not about using well his cards is just about using his own abilities.... he wanted to lose in this game.

Assuming he could manage to taint the Inquisitor, I'm not sure that would even work.

 

 

The soul transfer might end up destroying the Anchor; when he took over a Warden's body in the Arbor Wilds, there was nothing left of that Warden.

There is nothing to assume here we have only certainties.

He could have infected the inquisitor instead to throw them to the trebuchet.

He did that on purpose,he is able to decide if he want to keep the original body or shape it,with Janeka he preserved the body to trick Hawke.

[thats1evildude]

Yeah, darkspawn don't control the taint like that. Corypheus doesn't a magical Blighted Care Bear Stare that he can use to turn people into ghouls.

[Patricia08]

Is not about using well his cards is just about using his own abilities.... he wanted to lose in this game.

 

 

I made a topic a while back that Corypheus should be the one that should have won the final battle ( because of all his power almost godlike power ) so i think you are right that he wanted to lose in this game.

[Serza]

I'm starting to see the joke here.

 

Don Quijote de la Mancha...

Fighting "giants" in the shape of windmills...

 

Where's Sancho Panza, eh, mate?

 

It should have hit me a while ago... I should brush up my Spanish literature!

[Donquijote and 59 others]

El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote dela Mancha died against the Archdemon because he was stupid and idealistic while Sancho just inherited his wealth.

[Serza]

Wait, you do realize I wasn't talking DA, right.

[Andromelek]

El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote dela Mancha died against the Archdemon because he was stupid and idealistic while Sancho just inherited his wealth.

Wait a second...Are you implying that Alistair or Loghain are Sancho Panza?

[Lezio]

Well, by the time Cory struck Haven he did have the Grey Wardens under his control so, theorically, he could have taken the Herald to them(instead of throwing him towards the catapult ) and forcefully made him/her a Grey Warden. Or even have the idiot magister send him some of the wardens' joining concoction

 

I mean, it's not like the joining ritual itself is complex or can't be forced on the unwilling, the Herald could have died but either way Cory would have won

[Melyanna]

He might be stupid, but he is so dreamy



Sorry, couldn't resist....
Cory is just as limited as any classic "evil overlord" trope, imho, but we all know who the real villain of the game is, so...

[Iakus]

Assuming he could manage to taint the Inquisitor, I'm not sure that would even work. The soul transfer might end up destroying the Anchor; when he took over a Warden's body in the Arbor Wilds, there was nothing left of that Warden.

This is a good point

 

The Anchor may not just be bound to the Inquisitor's hand, but to the soul as well.  If Corypheus displaced the soul through possession, then the Anchor might have been destroyed as well.

 

A better question would be if Corypheus captured and turned the Inquisitor into a ghoul, if he could have used the Inquisitor as a taxi service to reach the Blackened City.

 

Or an Envy-possessed Inquisitor, for that matter

[Shechinah]

This is a good point

 

The Anchor may not just be bound to the Inquisitor's hand, but to the soul as well.  If Corypheus displaced the soul through possession, then the Anchor might have been destroyed as well.

 

A better question would be if Corypheus captured and turned the Inquisitor into a ghoul, if he could have used the Inquisitor as a taxi service to reach the Blackened City.

 

Or an Envy-possessed Inquisitor, for that matter

 

I wonder if the Architect and Corypheus can infect people with the taint on their own as in without using darkspawn or the taint in some other form. The Architect's henchwomen were visually-implied to be tainted but I do not think we have confirmation that the taint came from the Architect and not from exposure to the darkspawn or tainted sources such as food or areas- and I just realised what dirty things "the taint came from the Architect" can imply.  
 

[Aulis Vaara]

Corypheus IS stupid. If he had played on the inquisitor's curiosity, suggesting that they enter the Black City together to find the truth of things or maybe to set right what once went wrong, he could've saved himself a lot of trouble.

I mean, it might not have worked, but it was worth a shot. Only go to war if you can't find common ground.

[Beerfish]

Corfigginus is stoopid

Solas underestimated Corfiniggus

Thus Solas is Stoopid!

[Statare]

Corypheus IS stupid. If he had played on the inquisitor's curiosity, suggesting that they enter the Black City together to find the truth of things or maybe to set right what once went wrong, he could've saved himself a lot of trouble.

I mean, it might not have worked, but it was worth a shot. Only go to war if you can't find common ground.

 

Considering 90% of Thedas suffers from severe stupidity, if Cory had tried to persuade people / operated from the shadows / never actively confronted the nations/religions of Thedas, he might have been able to a play a long game he could win, he is pretty much immortal after all.

 

Unfortunately almost no explanation of why Cory acts the way he does (besides God-hood/symbolism, why did he need to sacrifice the Divine? was the Orb of Destruction influencing him?), nor what his powers actually are, any investigation into the nature of his Darspawn-ness or Tainted-ness, nor any exploration into his first journey to the Black City happens in the course of the game. It's most likely that these elements were severed off during any of the countless cuts that happen in game development, but it is also possible that the writers decided to not explain these things yet because either they reveal too much or they are too tangential.

 

As happens in many works that have the "true villain" trope, the actions of the Shadow Puppet Villain only make sense when you understand the motivations of the Puppet Master Villain. Sadly, DAI is a very bad offender in this regard, as the Shadow Puppet Villain, Cory, is so under-developed, and acting out of so much stupidity and vague motivations, that he really can only be understood as the pawn of the True Villain, Fen'Harel.

 

Why does Cory kill the Divine? To prep the Orb for Fen'Harel. Why does Cory do the things he does over the course of DAI attacking  Southern Thedosian nations? To prepare the Inquisition to fight the Qunari threat and attempt to shape the South in an image Fen'Harel is okay with (why else would he suggest for us to do things certain things) because Fen'Harel suspects he might need a plan B should the Orb be destroyed by Cory. Why does Cory go after the Well of Sorrows? Because Fen'Harel wants Mythal to reveal herself. Cory is stupid because his actions are really the designs of someone else using him as their agent.

[Vit246]

I realized corypheus was beyond stupid when he kept monologuing instead of just killing the inquisitor at haven.

[AlanC9]

Isn't he required to do that? I mean, they'd revoke his Guild of Calamitous Intent membership if he skipped the monologue.

[Vit246]

Isn't he required to do that? I mean, they'd revoke his Guild of Calamitous Intent membership if he skipped the monologue.

No it was too much. He does it in a stupid way. He personally went to haven to kill the inquisitor and what the fvck does he do? He doesn't do it. He just rambles about nothing. And he throws the inquisitor far away from him.

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