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[LoonySpectre]

Tried several builds and weapons and stuff with him. Still can't understand what makes this ugly monster of a kit click. Any suggestions?

[Arkhne]

Step #1: Don't think of him as an Engineer.

Step #2: Skip Sabotage (I know, blasphemy, right?)

Step #3: Weapon damage in passives, with power damage on Rank 5.

Step #4: Gratz, you now have a less OP Turian Soldier (Therefore, more acceptable).

Step #5: Slap an AR on him. Harrier works due to Grenade possibilities. I use Lancer, for reasons.

Step #6: Kill stuff, kill stuff a lot.

 

I like him more than the Vorcha Hunter, who is my favourite Vorcha.

[Darth Volus]

You have to be TTT. Otherwise this kit is rather boring. 

 

A good gun is very important. 

 

http://kalence.drupa...23O51334!5EAA5C

 

Sabotage - Fire nades (or a few in a row) - shoot. 

 

And DO NOT skip sabotage. It helps with Turrets, Atlases, delays Geth somewhat and has a good (double) stagger for easy headshots. 

[Cryos_Feron]

I agree that it is very difficult to give him a purpose.   Everything is done better by other characters.

 

 

So finally, I came up with this:   The only character I actually use sabotage ....  in order to sabotage

(Geth only - maybe Cerberus)

 

http://kalence.drupa...34O52334!580G5C

 

Arc Pistol with Phasic or Disrupter to destroy shields

Homing Grenades completely specced to destroy armor

 

With Disrupter Ammo Tech Bursts are an Option,   Phasic Ammo I'd use on a Biotic Team.

Sabotage won't prime for Tech Bursts in my build.

[Fuenf789]

...recommends sensible stuff...

^ wanted to post a alternative point as correction - but then Binary corrected it already. So I just added my like.
The "DO NOT" part should be read 7 million times as penance by non-believers.

[PatrickBateman]

He can do ok damage, but he's not that interesting to play imo.

As with all kits there are several different builds, I usually go with 6/6/6/5/3.

My main advice though is to always put points into sabotage, and never take rank 4A, sabotage is all about rank 4B, backfire. Not taking backfire is like skipping arc nades on the QMI or QME.

[TheNightSlasher]

His powers are neither excellent on their own nor do they have great synergy. I had to force myself to like the character and once I started switching between builds and trying out various things, he became one of my favorite characters. He is my favorite turian in the game, and ranks in my top 3 engineers.

 

Some of the build options I tried (lot of these are similar but this is basically a list of main things I've tried with this):

 

Build 1: 46664 with disruptor ammo. I used a whole variety of guns with this set-up, crusader being my favorite. This is a typical tech-bursting build. Prime with disruptor and hit with homing grenades. For mid-tier and boss level enemies, use sabotage for tech vulnerability.

 

Build 2: Up close & personal.  Looks similar to build #1 but the gameplay is different. Homing grenades have long travel time and one way to counter it is to be close to the enemy. Raider is the perfect gun for that. Think of HG as a CQC attack like a melee or smash or biotic sphere etc, instead of a typical grenade power. Sabotage to stun lower tier enemies, bum-rush and finish off mooks (with turret for some CQC). For mid-tier and boss enemies, use homing grenades between each clip. 

 

Build 3: 46646 Melee. Yes, a turian without max weapon passives, because fk it. This variant is probably my favorite of the lot. Sabotage's tech vulnerability boosts his heavy melee, and I liberally use it. Plus, the armiger turian heavy melee is hands down the coolest looking melee attack in the game. You'll still have tech bursts and stuff for mobs and boss level enemies but everything else - melee.

 

Build 4: (pseudo) Sniping. Can't say I've tried much of this but you could just put a sniper, or something like saber, crusader and headshot stuff after sabotage stun. Homing grenades are only for some spike boss damage and DoT. 

 

There is no easy way to like this character. You just need to start trying out diff. builds and stuff. May be you'll end up liking it. May be this will end up being your favorite turian or one of your favorite engineers if you're crazy like me. 

[Cryos_Feron]

My main advice though is to always put points into sabotage, and never take rank 4A, sabotage is all about rank 4B, backfire. Not taking backfire is like skipping arc nades on the QMI or QME.

I completely agree

..... if I was fighting in a real war and depending on highest efficiency with my own life.

 

 

But like I said:  There is nothing this character is really good at.   So - for once -  wanted to take on the role as a saboteur ... that sabotages.

And this makes more fun when the enemies fight on my side for a longer period of time.

 

For me this is the only niche he is able to fill.

[Loufi]

You have to be TTT. Otherwise this kit is rather boring. 

 

A good gun is very important. 

 

http://kalence.drupa...23O51334!5EAA5C

 

Sabotage - Fire nades (or a few in a row) - shoot. 

 

And DO NOT skip sabotage. It helps with Turrets, Atlases, delays Geth somewhat and has a good (double) stagger for easy headshots. 

QFT.

 

As for the build, I use something similar, with the Lancer and power amps most of the time (make Homing Grenades a really good direct damage dealer).
I find that the essential is to max Armiger Legion and Homing Grenades, the rest has less impact (but I wouldn't put less than 4 ranks into Sentry Turret or sabotage, as they have both a crucial evo at this level).   

[Cryos_Feron]

when I was at the university our professor used to say:

There are no wrong answers if you are able to rationalize them.

 

Edit:

There are no wrong builds if it fulfills the intended purpose.

[Catastrophy]

Sabotage.

 

Sabotage with Homing Grenade.

 

Valkyrie.

 

Some role-playing. It revolves around using a non-marksman with a heavy recoiled weapon while still trying to get textbook mileage. Since it's centered on shooting and power use I usually forego maxing fitness, use warfighter, stability, AP ammo. I stagger mooks with sabotage and shoot tem dead. Sometimes without sabotage. Bosses get a sabotage with tech vulnerability and a grenade. Against geth I use sabotage tactically. The turret is more like another distraction, the pain is brought by Valkyrie.

 

I think I use something like this: http://kalence.drupa...!63Z51314!5G0G5

 

And because role-play - I named him Maquis or something like that. He's a non-professional underground résistance fighter.

[Lux Caelum]

Until now I had one build for him, that was a melee build. Now there are actually two builds:

 

 

Here is a build I used for my last platinum solo and I completed it (finally). It is very powerful, and turret is one of the reasons I was able to pull it of. Turret stuns mooks and will entertain all Geth units. Sabotage works great deal on Prime's drones, Cerberus turrets, and bombers. Homing grenades for bosses and fire explosions, be sure to sabotage them before bombing them for the best effect of explosions.

 

Here is my modified melee build (this time I wont skip turret, previous one was without turret). Basically you charge venom, sabotage group of enemies, melee them (charged Venom fires automatically when you melee), finish whatever is left with homing grenades. As I said, I am going to experiment with turret in this one for stagger effect, so maybe throw turret inside -> fire Venom -> sabotage -> fire Venom again -> melee. Not sure if they are going to live long enough for that melee attack, tho.

 

Very important thing is to place turret carefully, give it some light cover or throw it behind enemies. If it is not placed correctly it won't be of any help at all.

[Balbock]

Headshots everywhere

 

Use Sabotage to line up easy Suppressor headshots on mooks and melt armor with Homingnades and Hurricane.

If the lobby looks like carrying or is set to platinum take an Arc Pistol instead of the Suppressor/Hurricane combo.

[Fuenf789]

Headshots everywhere
 
Use Sabotage to line up easy suppressor headshots on mooks and melt armor with Homingnades and Hurricane.
If the lobby looks like carring or is set to platinum take an Arc Pistol instead of the Suppressor/Hurricane combo.

QFT. This is probably the character that I like the most to "ragdoll" everything in prep for a headshot. There are definitely much better infiltrators, but there is nothing as satisfying as sadiscally freezin a collector captain / Hunter/ before finishing it off.

[DisturbedPsic0]

Skip turret, sabotage->HG for tech bursts. Unless you have the misfortune to get Geth, in which case you prime tech bursts with disruptor ammo and repeat. 

 

Build

 

Meh Video

 

His powers don't mesh that well, nor are they really impressive on their own. QFI has better sabotage, Drell Assassin has better HG, turret is meh, his passives and health/shields aren't as good as the OG Turians. This is one of of the 4 or 5 kits in the game that could disappear forever and I wouldn't care.

 

Now, if he has stim packs like the his Armiger Legion brothers instead of the turret, then he would be one of my picks for best melee kit in the game. Sagotage with TV plus his tech melee does some nice damage. Plus a little boost from stim packs (and more importantly a way to regen shields during CQ combat) would make him a heck of a lot more fun to play. Also, since then you wouldn't be relying on sabotage to set up tech bursts (nice, but not required anymore), his playstyle wouldn't be gimped against the Geth. But as he is, he has super slow tech bursting, gimp passives, gimp health/shields, lame power in the turret, and his strong tech bursting doesn't even work against Geth. There's a reason I named him "Meh".

[Arkhne]

Aww, skipping sabotage upsets the trolls? Definitely skip it then, let them weap.

[Darth Volus]

Aww, skipping sabotage upsets the trolls? Definitely skip it then, let them weap.

 

You skip SABOtage on the Turian SABOteur. Who's the troll here?    

[Alfonsedode]

His powers are neither excellent on their own nor do they have great synergy. I had to force myself to like the character and once I started switching between builds and trying out various things, he became one of my favorite characters. He is my favorite turian in the game, and ranks in my top 3 engineers.

 

Some of the build options I tried (lot of these are similar but this is basically a list of main things I've tried with this):

 

 

 

Build 3: 46646 Melee. Yes, a turian without max weapon passives, because fk it. This variant is probably my favorite of the lot. Sabotage's tech vulnerability boosts his heavy melee, and I liberally use it. Plus, the armiger turian heavy melee is hands down the coolest looking melee attack in the game. You'll still have tech bursts and stuff for mobs and boss level enemies but everything else - melee.

 

Build 4: (pseudo) Sniping. Can't say I've tried much of this but you could just put a sniper, or something like saber, crusader and headshot stuff after sabotage stun. Homing grenades are only for some spike boss damage and DoT. 

 

There is no easy way to like this character. You just need to start trying out diff. builds and stuff. May be you'll end up liking it. May be this will end up being your favorite turian or one of your favorite engineers if you're crazy like me. 

I practice these last two, the fourth with the supressor and it s quite ok. And the third with a melee gear of some sort and maybe adrenaline module.

[PatrickBateman]

Aww, skipping sabotage upsets the trolls? Definitely skip it then, let them weap.

Only trolls posts things like that.

The OP asked for advice on how to play this kit having tried multiple builds, advice on it were given, and the first and foremost advice is to use sabotage.

[Arktinen]

Only trolls posts things like that.

The OP asked for advice on how to play this kit having tried multiple builds, advice on it were given, and the first and foremost advice is to use sabotage.

So, surely the OP hasn't already tried the most obvious build answer that is staring everyone in the face first?

 

Isn't it nice that there are so many different ways to build each and every character, and not everything has to conform to a certain basic mold? I thought the idea was to find out what different builds everyone else here has used, and what builds they have themselves liked. Yes, I am noob, but I,too, have my own preferences, and certainly they often differ from my friends who have played 10x longer.

All hail anarchy.

[JRandall0308]

6/6/6/6/0 and then throw on some Cyclonics if you must.

 

While the Homing Grenades are traveling, you use Sabotage so that when they hit they do more damage.

 

Sabre or Valkyrie works well on him.

 

Give the Turret the rockets and toss is behind or to the side of enemies. Don't try to use it like you do the Quarian Female Engineer's turret.

[TheNightSlasher]

Something to know about sentry turret and tech vulnerability - the shock evo of the sentry turret (rank 4b) is the only component that benefits from the tech vulnerability evolution. 

 

May be useful when building the character.....or may be not.

[Tupari]

This is how I usually play this glorious Turian: 

 

GPS - It's really fun as an anti-geth build in particular, since they'll be distracted by the turret, staggered and hacked by sabotage, homing grenades provide AOE/tech burst, and of course GPS is highly effective at staggering all mooks. 

 

Other times I will go for 4/6/6/6/4 (shock on turret, armor mitigation on grenade rank 6) and use a weapon like Saber or Valiant.

 

Turians. They're Good. 

 

I guess.  /shittyTechnoImpersonation 

[Cryos_Feron]

6/6/6/6/0 and then throw on some Cyclonics if you must.

 

While the Homing Grenades are traveling, you use Sabotage so that when they hit they do more damage.

 

 

 

I don't think that the Homing Grenades are considered a Tech Power (I may be mistaken though).

[MrBSN2017]

Real life advice, don't derive self worth by comparing to others. It's a different kit meant to be played against Geth.

He's no GI, but can still get the job done.