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[TheBlackAdder13]

So what does everyone think? Are the writers done with her or will we be seeing more of her? Given the fact that she's technically Mythal's daughter, I expect to see more of her in relation to the dread wolf plot in future games. I'm wondering if, knowing what she now knows after eating a slice of humble pie in DA:I, she'll change her mind about possession from Flemeth. My thinking is that at some point she'll eventually be Mythal's next incarnation, so we'll have a hybrid Morrigan-Mythal character akin to Flemythal. Thoughts?

[Reznore57]

I don't know.

Yes there is the notes and even hints in game (OGB:"my mother's the inheritor") , and yeah it could make sense and be a neat narrative if Morrigan gets Mythal's Godhood and all that ...

But Morrigan is also a character with baggage namely a potential kid , and a potential LI , and each time something important happens to her , the devs will probably keep her updated on this situation.And it's kinda jarring because seriously not sure why Random Hero number 4 should get the message Morrigan used to exchange saliva and other fluids with the Hero of Ferelden.

And of course it means updating the status of the Hero of Ferelden as well...

[TheBlackAdder13]

I don't know.

Yes there is the notes and even hints in game (OGB:"my mother's the inheritor") , and yeah it could make sense and be a neat narrative if Morrigan gets Mythal's Godhood and all that ...

But Morrigan is also a character with baggage namely a potential kid , and a potential LI , and each time something important happens to her , the devs will probably keep her updated on this situation.And it's kinda jarring because seriously not sure why Random Hero number 4 should get the message Morrigan used to exchange saliva and other fluids with the Hero of Ferelden.

And of course it means updating the status of the Hero of Ferelden as well...

Good points, Bioware is often cautious of messing with potential LIs because of fan backlash (unfortunately).

Also, I just realized, I always figured Flemythal was more in favor of Solas's plan whereas I expect Morrigan had an indication that Flemeth was up to something not so great. IE: In Witch Hunt she tells the warden "fear Flemeth, not me" whereas in DA 2 Flemeth tells Hawke that change is good and that he shouldn't be afraid to jump into the abyss. (I'm assuming this is in reference to Solas's plan to tear down the veil.) So if Morrigan is cognizant of all this, I guess it makes it more unlikely that she'd allow Mythal to possess her.

[Reznore57]

Good points, Bioware is often cautious of messing with potential LIs because of fan backlash (unfortunately).

Also, I just realized, I always figured Flemythal was more in favor of Solas's plan whereas I expect Morrigan had an indication that Flemeth was up to something not so great. IE: In Witch Hunt she tells the warden "fear Flemeth, not me" whereas in DA 2 Flemeth tells Hawke that change is good and that he shouldn't be afraid to jump into the abyss. (I'm assuming this is in reference to Solas's plan to tear down the veil.) So if Morrigan is cognizant of all this, I guess it makes it more unlikely that she'd allow Mythal to possess her.

 

In my opinion , Witch Hunt is a mess when it comes to the overall story.

Because Morrigan says  her mother isn't an abomination ,isn't truly human with much drama , but turns out she actually really didn't know what the hell Flemeth was , and she "suspected " something.

But well she suspected something was strange right away when you picked her in her mother's hut.

 

Then she says she was wrong and Flemeth isn't after immortality but something far far worse.

Thing is when you're in the Fade with her , Flemeth and Kieran , the only accusation she's throwing at Flemeth is the same old one from DAO " My mother steals the bodies of her daughters!" and nothing else.

 

She can also say to a warden Flemeth is directly involved with the Blight and a warden should go after her ASAP.

Again in DAI when facing Corypheus who is darkspawn , and Flemeth also arrive on stage , Morrigan doesn't say anything about her mother being related to the Blight.

 

She also muses the world is about to change , and people shouldn't fear that.And on her side , she is preparing for the change.

Except errr...not really.All she says in DAI is she wants to preserve old stuff for the sake of preserving old stuff.

 

It is almost like Witch Hunt never happened.

 

At the end of DAI Morrigan faced her mother again and she is told her mother never wanted to hurt her and it was all a misunderstanding.

Of course Morrigan is left a bit wary and puzzled but she's far less angry and frantic about Flemeth.

 

As for what Flemythal truly wants , I don't know.But I am unsure she is buying into Solas plans.

We saw her pushing something through the Eluvian before Solas arrives.

If this is a part of herself , she is actually bluffing Solas the whole scene in a manner of speaking.

They are both sad because Solas is about to kill her.And she says she is "sorry " .Why is she sorry?

I mean she's willing to pay the price Solas should pay so he can go on with his pet project.

It can be a "sorry" about the sad state of their affair and friendship , or it can be a sorry I will backstab you later and wished it didn't end like this.

[AutumnWitch]

I suspect (not that I want it) that most of the people we know from DA (esp DAO) won't be involved directly with any new DA games. A combination of the cost of established voice actors and the complication of using characters that have so many different possible variables to keep track of make it prohibitive to use them much. We might have a few "appearances" (though I doubt it) of established DAO/DA2 characters but it will be minimal. And it seems to me that BW wants to leave southern Thesdas and start with a new crew of characters and companions with DA4.

 

That being said, I thin Morrigan would be a great character for a book concerning what she does after DAI.

[Dai Grepher]

I think Morrigan's main ability will be to survive and navigate the Veilless world.

Whether she uses this ability to help Thedas or not might depend on a number of factors.

However, I believe she will be tied to the Hero of Ferelden, especially if the Hero romanced her.

If Kieran exists, she will definitely be protecting him. If she drank from the Well, she will have extra knowledge. And Mythal may show up to possess her. Unless Solas did something to prevent that from happening. Seems like he would want to prevent that, especially in the case where the Inquisitor drank.

[Almostfaceman]

So what does everyone think? Are the writers done with her or will we be seeing more of her? Given the fact that she's technically Mythal's daughter, I expect to see more of her in relation to the dread wolf plot in future games. I'm wondering if, knowing what she now knows after eating a slice of humble pie in DA:I, she'll change her mind about possession from Flemeth. My thinking is that at some point she'll eventually be Mythal's next incarnation, so we'll have a hybrid Morrigan-Mythal character akin to Flemythal. Thoughts?

 

Flemeth has pretty much prophesied that there's going to be big changes in the future. So has our favorite savant, Sandal. Flemeth got her daughter involved and probably told her a good bit. So I think we'll see Morrigan again. Unless Bioware loses the budget to hire Claudia Black. 

[Andromelek]

Well, I think that they set up something big for her, but then I think it was Gaider the main writer behind her, with him gone, things could change, and as Morrigan has been so reluctant to receive Flemeth's gift, perhaps in the end she said: "well, screw that" and now someone else could get that gift, who knows, maybe Yavana or another daughter or even that could make the new PC a special snowflake. I also think that if Morrigan drank from the well and Solas can command her, then this is going to be a bad deal for her.

[Fiskrens]

Unless Bioware loses the budget to hire Claudia Black.

Nah, they should still be able to afford her. After all, DAI should have brought some dole. Plus that they cut the cost of "Flemeth" (always forget her name and too tired to look up) , who've gained some refreshed stardom with OITNB.

[TheBlackAdder13]

Nah, they should still be able to afford her. After all, DAI should have brought some dole. Plus that they cut the cost of "Flemeth" (always forget her name and too tired to look up) , who've gained some refreshed stardom with OITNB.

Yeah, if they can afford Kate Mulgrew and Freddie Prinz Jr (not to mention Gareth David Lloyd and Eva Myles -- both of whom are well established TV actors from Dr. Who and Torchwood) as major characters, I'm pretty sure they can afford Claudia Black.

 

I agree that they won't want to have very many characters from southern Thedas going ahead into the future, but I think Morrigan will be one of the few exceptions.

[LightningPoodle]

I think they will keep her around for many games to come. She is one of the more invested in characters. She has stories that have been told, stories that are happening right now and stories that must fund a beginning. Compared to most other characters, she's one if the few that I could safely say another appearance wouldn't feel like they're forcing it.

[Xerrai]

Morrigan is tied to Flemeth--a reoccuring character that may become key in the next few games. So I hardly expect for Morrigan to be never heard from again. especially since she is some sort of "inheritor". That implies something big.

 

What it is, I don't know. But it implies that she will be seen again in some form.

[German Soldier]

Morrigan is one of those characters that has been overexposed to the audience since had four appearances in the DA games.

I do think that Patrick Weekes would mostly take  into considerations how many calls a character need before it soured players.

[Lunatica]

In my opinion , Witch Hunt is a mess when it comes to the overall story.

 

I agree.

I bought DAA after a while but i didn't had anymore the saves of DAO so i created a warden from scratch for the expansion and the Dlc.

I have never understood why that warden(Orlesian) went to search Morrigan?

[GoldenGail3]

She become the next Flemeth

[TheBlackAdder13]

 

Morrigan is one of those characters that has been overexposed to the audience since had four appearances in the DA games.

I do think that Patrick Weekes would mostly take  into considerations how many calls a character need before it soured players.

 

What? She's been in two games and a DLC, where's the fourth appearance? Leliana has been in every game so far and multiple DLCs but that hasn't stopped them from repeatadly using her and fans don't seem to have "soured" on her.

[Statare]

In my opinion , Witch Hunt is a mess when it comes to the overall story.

Because Morrigan says  her mother isn't an abomination ,isn't truly human with much drama , but turns out she actually really didn't know what the hell Flemeth was , and she "suspected " something.

But well she suspected something was strange right away when you picked her in her mother's hut.

 

Then she says she was wrong and Flemeth isn't after immortality but something far far worse.

Thing is when you're in the Fade with her , Flemeth and Kieran , the only accusation she's throwing at Flemeth is the same old one from DAO " My mother steals the bodies of her daughters!" and nothing else.

 

*snip*

 

At the end of DAI Morrigan faced her mother again and she is told her mother never wanted to hurt her and it was all a misunderstanding.

Of course Morrigan is left a bit wary and puzzled but she's far less angry and frantic about Flemeth.

 

As for what Flemythal truly wants , I don't know.But I am unsure she is buying into Solas plans.

We saw her pushing something through the Eluvian before Solas arrives.

If this is a part of herself , she is actually bluffing Solas the whole scene in a manner of speaking.

They are both sad because Solas is about to kill her.And she says she is "sorry " .Why is she sorry?

I mean she's willing to pay the price Solas should pay so he can go on with his pet project.

It can be a "sorry" about the sad state of their affair and friendship , or it can be a sorry I will backstab you later and wished it didn't end like this.

 

Flemeth and Morrigan make a deal in the Fade, I am not sure about the version with out OGB Kieran as I only played through with one character. But in that version Flemeth says Morrigan will never be "safe from her" and she will "have her due," in exchange for letting Kieran return to Morrigan. You also have to factor in Morrigan may, in either version, be enthralled to her mother now under the power of the Well. Either way, even if Flemeth does seem genuine when she says Morrigan was never in any danger from her, you have to factor in that Morrigan just volunteered, pretty much one way or another, to be Flemeth's inheritor, either through drinking from the Well or through her deal over her son, making herself a "willing" subject, because she just consented, even if there are reservations. Then there is the wisp that Flemeth pushes through the Eluvian, which is probably left for Morrigan, or one of Flemeth's other daughters, in all play throughs, and may overwrite the one possibility where Morrigan did not agree to inherit Mythal, in a world state with out OGB Kieran and where the Inquisitor drank from the Well. To me that indicates the writers tried to write the story into the same place- Morrigan on track to become the new Mythal vessel. 

 

As to what Flemeth wants... if she had just wanted to tear down the Veil, and the Orb needed time to power up the "normal" non destroy the Conclave way, Flemeth had many, many centuries to power up the Orb. Also, one can interpret what Flemeth wanted from the Warden and Hawke in this way (there are many others): Flemeth wanted to help the Warden end the Blight quickly to stabilize Thedas and allow for both the Warden, Hawke, and Inquisitor to rise to power to be able to respond to the actions of Fen'Harel and to get the soul of Urthemiel for her survival, she helped Hawke because she knew Hawke could awaken Corypheus, and Corypheus would upset Fen'Harel's plan A, so that the agents she cultivated by stopping the Blight could work against him. There are many other interpretations, but something does not sit right with me that most of Flemeth's actions do not involve trying to bring back the Elvhen.

 

So if I had to guess... I'd say Morrigan will somehow be involved in discovering a way to stop Fen'Harel. Be her the inheritor of her mother's soul or not.

[German Soldier]

What? She's been in two games and a DLC, where's the fourth appearance? Leliana has been in every game so far and multiple DLCs but that hasn't stopped them from repeatadly using her and fans don't seem to have "soured" on her.

Oh you forgot the last court like most users in Bsn

[German Soldier]

Flemeth and Morrigan make a deal in the Fade, I am not sure about the version with out OGB Kieran 

Without the OGB Flemeth give something to Morrigan in the altar of Mythal with the OGB this does not happen.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

What's next to Morrigan uhmm?

Eternal slavery and servitude to the will of  Solas and Mythal  !

[Secret Rare]

Dunno if the new lead writer wish to include her in the franchise once again.

If she will be included  than i hope to have the option to kill this miserable  traitor and slavery supporter  who attempted to sabotage my mission when i was at the temple of Mythal.

[TheWardenBrothers1701]

I definitely think they're setting her up to something big, particularly with Mythal and that probably will be taking on the power of "Flemeth". What she'll do with that is another story entirely. Morrigan was a character written to have to her own plot line that runs parallel to the protagonist's path, she's up to something (though not necessarily bad just unknown) and it may come to a head in the next game as it deals with Solas and Elven gods and magic in such a way she will never be able to stay away. She wishes to obtain and preserve old magic, for what end I highly doubt she even knows.

 

One of the things I have been looking at that seems to share quite a bit of similarities between them is Morrigan, Flemeth, and the old Irish goddess "The Morrigan" and I think this could greatly foreshadow Morrigan's fate to possibly obtain Mythal's godhood. Now besides the name the "Witches of the Wilds" share many similarities with the tale. At the moment particularly Flemeth.

 

The Morrigan is described as the tri-goddess of Battle, Sovereignty, and Fertility and often shows up as three sisters of many names one of which can be Morrigan. They are druids and hedge mages like all Witches of the Wilds, they are shape shifters (with a particular fondness for ravens and crows), and of course it's three sisters and right now there are at least three daughters of Flemeth we've heard off. Morrigan, Yavana (featured in Dragon Age: The Silent Grove but *spoiler* is dead now), one in Nevarra, and possibly one in Orlais too.

 

Now we know Morrigan seems to be the youngest, and possibly the favorite of Flemeth's daughters. I believe Flemeth was originally going to possess her but at some point decided to give her godhood to her instead. Now in each game Flemeth has shown an attribute of The Morrigan and Morrigan has been gaining them. Example:

 

The aspect of Battle, The Morrigan is said to fight with the side she favors and is the Master of Death. Flemeth clearly wishes the Darkspawn threat gone so aided the Wardens and sent Morrigan to fight at their side as well as send Morrigan to be her hand as the Master of Death, giving the Warden a loophole out of certain death should they choose to accept it.

 

Now the aspect of Sovereignty, this doesn't mean The Morrigan is a queen but she does have a hand in who gets in or aids those who have it. Flemeth is notorious for this being said to have offered Calenhad Theirin the power to unite the Alamarri tribes and form a kingdom (Fereldan) and is also said to have helped Maric take the throne of Fereldan from Orlais. She clearly doesn't limit it to just kings but people of great destiny and influence, ie: the Warden and Hawke. Morrigan begins to do the same in Inquisition, she aids Empress Celene and the Inquisitor. A sovereign and someone of great destiny and influence. Both of these ladies do it for their own ends of course, even if that is just saving the world.

 

And the last aspect is Fertility, now the evidence on this one is based on world state. No matter the state though Flemeth is a mother, she is highly known for baring daughters of great power, and they give you the option to make Morrigan a mother. Which is huge, not just for her character arc but for falling into The Morrigan mold. There was always two sides to The Morrigan's motherhood, the harsh, angry, and vengeful one, which seems to be where Flemeth/Mythal are coming from, and the softer motherly compassionate one, which if she has Kieran Morrigan fits into.

 

I think a lot of the inspiration for Flemeth came from this Irish goddess, and many of her aspects are shared with Flemeth. Now with Morrigan steadily gaining those aspects herself I definitely think they are setting up her taking the mantle of "The Witch of the Wilds" but I am positive it'll be a very different witch than what we've seen with Flemeth. Who knows, Morrigan with that power could just save us all. Or I suppose it could corrupt her and she now becomes the vengeful one but...I'd rather stay positive lol.

[Andromelek]

^I don't think Yavana is gone, for starts Alistair is DA's uncle Ben, Gaider confirmed the comics simply never happened if he died, and then we have WoT2 suggesting she could still be alive and Weekes tweeted something the other day that leaves the doors open.So, I think we can say Morrigan has three sisters.

In regard to Morrigan, I think all the greatness setup was mostly Gaider's doing, now it's up to Weekes if he follows that or not, truth is, that I'm tired of the DAO characters, I would appreciate if all of them but Shale and Sten remain in the south for one game.

[German Soldier]

 

Now the aspect of Sovereignty, this doesn't mean The Morrigan is a queen but she does have a hand in who gets in or aids those who have it. Flemeth is notorious for this being said to have offered Calenhad Theirin the power to unite the Alamarri tribes and form a kingdom (Fereldan) and is also said to have helped Maric take the throne of Fereldan from Orlais. She clearly doesn't limit it to just kings but people of great destiny and influence, ie: the Warden and Hawke. Morrigan begins to do the same in Inquisition, she aids Empress Celene and the Inquisitor. A sovereign and someone of great destiny and influence. Both of these ladies do it for their own ends of course, even if that is just saving the world.

 

I had the distinct impression that she didn't aided Celene more likely was hired by her because the empress had problems with Gaspard and Briala who were also toying with Eluvians. It was more an employement rather than "destiny".

Celene is also the one who sent her to the Inquisitor so it was not even directly her choice.

 

Dunno how many daughters Flemeth has but why Morrigan is the favourite?

Flemeth seem to have taught a great deal of things to Yavana included the dragon language,she thought very little to Morrigan in comparision.

[German Soldier]

^I don't think Yavana is gone, for starts Alistair is DA's uncle Ben, Gaider confirmed the comics simply never happened if he died, and then we have WoT2 suggesting she could still be alive and Weekes tweeted something the other day that leaves the doors open.So, I think we can say Morrigan has three sisters.
 

Who are the other two daughters?

Yavana may be not dead since she was a bunch of pink smoke(like Majin buu) who entered inside the dragon but frankly i'm start to become annoyed that some charaters have the luxury of this magical rebirth or plot armors while others have to die normally.