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Mass Effect - Andromeda: Initiation (prequel novel to the game)


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Based on the title and character art, I would guess it's about the non-player-character N7 soldier that we've seen in E3 2015 trailer and who's been confirmed not to be our PC. Makes perfect sense to leave his backstory for side-novel, even if he's imprtant NPC in the game itself.

 

Dont think it's about the Ark project itself, all speculationz of course tho



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Based on the title and character art, I would guess it's about the non-player-character N7 soldier that we've seen in E3 2015 trailer and who's been confirmed not to be our PC. Makes perfect sense to leave his backstory for side-novel, even if he's imprtant NPC in the game itself.

 

Dont think it's about the Ark project itself, all speculationz of course tho

 

I maintain that it's Conrad, spreading the gospel.

 

It doesn't go well... as the trailer shows.



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That would make more sense.

 

The only issue is that she has to work with whatever story Bioware wrote, and given their track record, it would not be surprising if Arkcon turned out to be an Alliance project and the aliens are refugees the magnanimous humans allowed to tag along.

 

I'd consider that such a waste of setting since what I think is the set-up would provide such a good oppertunity to have the player character be a part of a multiracial team from the get-go that answers to a multiracial authority. It would help emphasis that the ARK's task is about more than the survival of a single race.

 

 

 



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I think they should stop the -tion titles for these books, and swap them with some nice -ence/-ance words. They sound nicer.


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Based on the title and character art, I would guess it's about the non-player-character N7 soldier that we've seen in E3 2015 trailer and who's been confirmed not to be our PC. Makes perfect sense to leave his backstory for side-novel, even if he's imprtant NPC in the game itself.

 

Dont think it's about the Ark project itself, all speculationz of course tho

 

It could be interesting if the book featured the N7 character as a viewpoint character; the audience learns about things through their perspective.

 

It is important for me, however, to stress that if N7 is a prominent character in the Andromeda game then I hope they take care to remember that not everybody will be reading the book and the character should be properly introduced in the game especially since even if the player knows N7, the player character might not.



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I would. And I doubt I'm the only one.

And "most played"... Tell me, how can you tell how many of those who played the "most played" (paragon male according to you) Shepard are actually interested in books? What if it turns out renegade female Shepard dominates among those that buy BioWare books? And they refuse to buy it because of wrong Shepard?

Well that would probably be the least played Shepard. Far fewer people play female and renegade - the set of renegade female Shepard players is probably small. And I thought the suggestion was least played?

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Well that would probably be the least played Shepard. Far fewer people play female and renegade - the set of renegade female Shepard players is probably small. And I thought the suggestion was least played?

It was just an example I came up with for this. No solid data or anything. I just wanted something completely different than what was suggested - paragon male Shepard. 



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Snip

 

As I've explained before, it makes perfect business sense to include non-heterosexual romances. 

 

LGBT content isn't *required* for the game's success, but neither is any sort of romantic content.

 

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Hm...

On the last I agree and have said so. I don't buy a game for its romance.

 

On the business side, well, sex sells.

 

In any case, Andromeda will have its romances, so all is good with the world.



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I'd consider that such a waste of setting since what I think is the set-up would provide such a good oppertunity to have the player character be a part of a multiracial team from the get-go that answers to a multiracial authority. It would help emphasis that the ARK's task is about more than the survival of a single race.

 

It would also make more sense. If the ark is a Plan B to ensure the survival of species even if the Reaper War is lost (seems likely, IMO), the Ark should be a Council project, rather than Alliance.


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I'd consider that such a waste of setting since what I think is the set-up would provide such a good oppertunity to have the player character be a part of a multiracial team from the get-go that answers to a multiracial authority. It would help emphasis that the ARK's task is about more than the survival of a single race.

 

We've kind of done that bit already, haven't we? I hung up on them, like... a lot, though.


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We've kind of done that bit already, haven't we? I hung up on them, like... a lot, though.


And threatened them with genocide.
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Which was part of my problem with Shepard's professional relationship with the Council and authority in general; Shepard should not have been allowed to get away with some of their behavior and should have dealt with consequences and repercussions of their actions. I am not saying the options should not have been there, I am saying that there should have been logical repercussions to said options.

 

Example; Shepard can repeatedly disconnect the Council during mission debriefings. The Council even show that they are aware that Shepard is the one doing this and that the disconnect is not the result of a technological malfunction. Shepard gets away with doing this when this, to me, seems like it should have resulted in some consequences even if the game did not allow it to amount to more than a threat to remove Shepard from the case and put another Spectre on the mission.

 

Shepard is a Spectre, someone who has been given the authority to operate outside of the law and be answerable only directly to the Council and despite how Shepard's actions can demonstrate that they do not consider themselves answerable to the Council in all matters, the Council do not try to rein Shepard in over this behavior as far as I can remember. Shepard's attitude towards them present a problem in that it could spread to ignoring direct orders and ethics which is not a good possibility when you've given someone authority to act outside the law.

 

Basically, the Council somehow seem to believe that Shepard will treat their authority and orders seriously even when Shepard repeatedly shows that they do not and even mocks as well as threatens them to their faces.


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I don't think the Council care about consequences because they don't really give a **** about Shepard in the first place. His/her Spectre-status is a joke. Just like Shep says on Noveria. They were just throwing humans a bone, so we'd shut up and deal with problems in the Traverse ourselves.

 

 

Whatever their intentions though, they realize the problems you're investigating have wider implications than they thought. The "whole free reign" thing in the Traverse was a bad idea.


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If there was a "trend" of common Shepards, they'd be heavily Paragon.


And I'd probably burn that book. A bunch of weenies play these games.

I like to be a nice guy. I'd like my protag to reflect me. And yeah there is renegade in there as well.
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I like to be a nice guy. I'd like my protag to reflect me. And yeah there is renegade in there as well.

 

I'm not so nice that I sacrifice thousands of human soldiers for those people.

 

Maybe if it was just me, but...

 

 

Oh.. and if it was up to Drew K, it'd have been even worse. His idea for the original ME3 ending wanted us to sacrifice the ENTIRE human race. And they'd get away with it, because they know themselves we are all weenies, as a whole. It's like we have some sort of Fetish for this kind of thing.


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I'm not so nice that I sacrifice thousands of human soldiers for those people.

 

Maybe if it was just me, but...

 

 

Oh.. and if it was up to Drew K, it'd have been even worse. His idea for the original ME3 ending wanted us to sacrifice the ENTIRE human race. And they'd get away with it, because they know themselves we are all weenies, as a whole. It's like we have some sort of Fetish for this kind of thing.

Wait, what is your first phrase referencing? Something specific of sacrificing humans soldiers for other species in general?

Depending what the other choice/s were, I'd have choose the others. 

Not that I'm above using that kind of option, but it depends on the alternatives. I like both Destroy and (Para)Control, the latter being my favourite for the ending (I know you don't like it though :P) but both were viable. 



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I'm not so nice that I sacrifice thousands of human soldiers for those people.

Maybe if it was just me, but...


Oh.. and if it was up to Drew K, it'd have been even worse. His idea for the original ME3 ending wanted us to sacrifice the ENTIRE human race. And they'd get away with it, because they know themselves we are all weenies, as a whole. It's like we have some sort of Fetish for this kind of thing.

well Drew K would've been shot.

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I don't think the Council care about consequences because they don't really give a **** about Shepard in the first place. His/her Spectre-status is a joke. Just like Shep says on Noveria. They were just throwing humans a bone, so we'd shut up and deal with problems in the Traverse ourselves.


Whatever their intentions though, they realize the problems you're investigating have wider implications than they thought. The "whole free reign" thing in the Traverse was a bad idea.


But that's insane when you think about it. Shepard is still immune from prosecution in Citadel space on Spectre business and still notionally represents their interests. If Shepard, say, executes four corporate executives in cold blood on his authority as a Spectre - especially in an area outside of Citadel jurisdiction - that could spark an international incident.

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I'm not so nice that I sacrifice thousands of human soldiers for those people.

Maybe if it was just me, but...


Oh.. and if it was up to Drew K, it'd have been even worse. His idea for the original ME3 ending wanted us to sacrifice the ENTIRE human race. And they'd get away with it, because they know themselves we are all weenies, as a whole. It's like we have some sort of Fetish for this kind of thing.


I think the choice was between choosing to be reaped vs. figuring it out on our own and risking death.

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I think the choice was between choosing to be reaped vs. figuring it out on our own and risking death.

 

If the latter was realized somehow, it could be cool. Not sure I'd like to series hanging that way either..



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Wait, what is your first phrase referencing? Something specific of sacrificing humans soldiers for other species in general?

Depending what the other choice/s were, I'd have choose the others. 

Not that I'm above using that kind of option, but it depends on the alternatives. I like both Destroy and (Para)Control, the latter being my favourite for the ending (I know you don't like it though :P) but both were viable. 

 

I'm talking about the Council choice in ME1.

 

It sounded like Drew wanted to do the same thing again, but on a wider scale.

 

It seems like this something he floated around the whole time. He named the Normandy and said the Red Stripe on Shep's suit represented the "blood of humanity". The dude's just all about sacrifice.


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If there was a "trend" of common Shepards, they'd be heavily Paragon.

 

Hey! I... yeah I tend to play all paragon :P



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I guess it's not too heavy, but last I checked, the stats were like 60/40. In ME3 at least.

 

I bet more people might've played Renegade in ME2.



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I guess it's not too heavy, but last I checked, the stats were like 60/40. In ME3 at least.

I bet more people might've played Renegade in ME2.

There were more Bad@$$ renegade options in ME 2. Bioware was on a good trend. I liked ME2 the best. It had the most to offer. DLC wise it was fantastic!!
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I'm not so nice that I sacrifice thousands of human soldiers for those people.

Maybe if it was just me, but...


Oh.. and if it was up to Drew K, it'd have been even worse. His idea for the original ME3 ending wanted us to sacrifice the ENTIRE human race. And they'd get away with it, because they know themselves we are all weenies, as a whole. It's like we have some sort of Fetish for this kind of thing.

Maybe that'd be a bit much, but I would've really appreciated having some choice over whether my Shepard very clearly put Earth first or not in Mass Effect 3. Throughout Mass Effect 1, and even to a large extent in Mass Effect 2, one of the major issues on which you could choose Shepard's stance was whether you saw humanity as one part of a larger galactic community, with as much value as every other civilisation, or as standing alone, separate from and above all others. In Mass Effect 3, that kinda goes out the window, and no matter how you've played Shepard in the past, you have to make Earth the absolute priority in your fight against the Reapers.

I'd have liked to have been able to play my egalitarian Shepard in attitude at least, even if one plot contrivance or another made Earth the logical centre of the fight against the Reapers, like it has been for... Well, the vast majority of other vast and powerful foes in the pantheon of science fiction. The way I felt like most of my control over Shepard's character had been taken away was, bar nothing, my biggest problem with that game, beyond the ending or anything else.

And honestly, having the option to sacrifice humanity for the sake of a 'greater good' would actually have been quite interesting to me. Science fiction has been staging dramatic last stands and grand comebacks based around defending Earth for a very, very long time. It's rare that the idea of actually sacrificing humanity for the sake of other races comes up--at least, it's certainly far less common than, well, exactly what we got in Mass Effect 3, with some United Federation of... Worlds, coming together to defend Earth. Besides, it would've fit better with those galactic unity/galactic isolation themes that had been such a big part of the first two games, and represented a far more compelling 'difficult choice' - at least, to me - than the ass-pull we got at the end of ME3.