I just hope EA Play officially announces the book with release date.
Hm, I don't really think EA Play is the sort of place where they'd announce a book, but who knows 
I think it'll probably be announced in a blog post later this year. The release dates we've seen so far are either in August or October/November.
And even if I'm interested in the book, and I might be with this one. I don't like reading the material until after a first PT. I don't want the book to affect my views of characters/situations. I want to experience that in-game.
Honestly I could see this as something they announce just after the EA Play event is over, just to strike while the iron's hot.Hm, I don't really think EA Play is the sort of place where they'd announce a book, but who knows
I think it'll probably be announced in a blog post later this year. The release dates we've seen so far are either in August or October/November.
A generally derogatory if awesome sounding label (Social Justice Warrior) meant to apply to some nebulous group on the political left (an analogue of keyboard warrior, i.e., someone who spends all their time on the internet pushing a view without really doing anything IRL about it). How far along the left one has to be to hit the label typically depends on how far on the right the speaker finds himself (or herself, but I think there's a clear gender split here).
Haha, that does sound awesome. 
I don't see anything wrong with it though... some people (like me) have no self confidence and wouldn't dare speak up in real life, so we have to speak out somehow, don't we??? 
What happened to Deception exactly? Like, why didn't the author understand what he was writing about, and how did BioWare not catch any of the problems until after release?
Bioware ultimately was entirely to blame.
There should have been someone from Bioware working with the author to make sure the book's story and characters were consistent with the game universe and the books that came before it. Either Bioware did not do that, or the person assigned to that task did not do their job.
Bioware ultimately was entirely to blame.
There should have been someone from Bioware working with the author to make sure the book's story and characters were consistent with the game universe and the books that came before it. Either Bioware did not do that, or the person assigned to that task did not do their job.
You're pretty quick to absolve the authour for not doing the research into the universe of the novel he was paid to write.
In truth, the blame doesn't "entirely" lie with any single party, it is shared by Dietz (who didn't do his research or ask anyone to do it), Bioware, and Del Rey (who both either ignored the flaws or didn't do the requisite checking).
I can't say I've ever read any of the Mass Effect books haha x
I can't say I've ever read any of the Mass Effect books haha x
Personally, I don't think they're worth the trouble, though other people really like them (other than Deception, of course). The Dragon Age ones are better.
Sorry if I'm being silly, but what's an SJW??? x
Social Justice Warrior.
Though it's an ironic term, as a "SJW" used in a derogatory fashion, is more of a social justice zealot. Someone who takes a good concept (social justice) and uses bullying, hateful tactics in order to promote it.
I haven't read any of the Dragon Age books either. I've only played part of Origins
Oh... SJW doesn't sound so good then. 
Personally, I don't think they're worth the trouble, though other people really like them (other than Deception, of course). The Dragon Age ones are better.
The Masked Empire stands on its own as a great fantasy book, period.
Gotta say, Dave Gaider's many talents don't really extend to prose writing.
The Masked Empire stands on its own as a great fantasy book, period.
Gotta say, Dave Gaider's many talents don't really extend to prose writing.
I actually liked Asunder. Perhaps more than The Masked Empire (though both were good)
I haven't read any of the Mass Effect books except Revelation. I was not particularly impressed.
I actually liked Asunder. Perhaps more than The Masked Empire (though both were good)
I haven't read any of the Mass Effect books except Revelation. I was not particularly impressed.
The first couple were OK. But I read them around the time ME2 was released, so not only was I extremely into it, but my spirit was also still intact.
Honestly, Drew's talents don't really extend to prose writing either. Which is why it's so unfortunate for all of us that he quit his day job.
You're pretty quick to absolve the authour for not doing the research into the universe of the novel he was paid to write.
In truth, the blame doesn't "entirely" lie with any single party, it is shared by Dietz (who didn't do his research or ask anyone to do it), Bioware, and Del Rey (who both either ignored the flaws or didn't do the requisite checking).
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It appears Del Rey and Bio apologized for the novel .
"The teams at Del Rey and BioWare would like to extend our sincerest apologies to the Mass Effect fans for any errors and oversights made in the recent novel Mass Effect: Deception. We are currently working on a number of changes that will appear in future editions of the novel."
I doubt about future editions of the same novel.
Nevertheless, four years later we have a new novel Mass Effect: Initiation. Would anyone care to suggest the changes Bio will make?
You're pretty quick to absolve the authour for not doing the research into the universe of the novel he was paid to write.
In truth, the blame doesn't "entirely" lie with any single party, it is shared by Dietz (who didn't do his research or ask anyone to do it), Bioware, and Del Rey (who both either ignored the flaws or didn't do the requisite checking).
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Hm.. It may also depend on the contract. Dietz definitely needed direction and facts to weave his story. Bio dropped the ball in failure to provide Dietz/Del Rey the guidelines and facts to support the author. On the other hand, good authors that I know, do a lot of research.
I'd say the blame is shared between the three.
Nevertheless, four years later we have a new novel Mass Effect: Initiation. Would anyone care to suggest the changes Bio will make?
I know what changes I'd like to see made.
But I would not care to speculate on what, if anything will change.
You're pretty quick to absolve the authour for not doing the research into the universe of the novel he was paid to write.
In truth, the blame doesn't "entirely" lie with any single party, it is shared by Dietz (who didn't do his research or ask anyone to do it), Bioware, and Del Rey (who both either ignored the flaws or didn't do the requisite checking).
The buck stops with Bioware.
They made the decision to bring in an outside writer rather than use someone in house, and then did a poor job of both bringing him up to speed and exercising some quality control as the work progressed.
The buck stops with Bioware.
They made the decision to bring in an outside writer rather than use someone in house, and then did a poor job of both bringing him up to speed and exercising some quality control as the work progressed.
I believe that even more now that Casey Hudson pimped it out himself.
They made the decision to bring in an outside writer rather than use someone in house, and then did a poor job of both bringing him up to speed and exercising some quality control as the work progressed.
Are you William C. Dietz's publicist or something? Look, I said that Bioware deserved some of the blame, but they are not the only ones. I'm afraid some of the buck stops with your client.
Frankly, I kinda blame them for hiring Dietz in the first place. He has a history of writing aweful tie in novels.Are you William C. Dietz's publicist or something? Look, I said that Bioware deserved some of the blame, but they are not the only ones. I'm afraid some of the buck stops with your client.
I can't say I've ever read any of the Mass Effect books haha x
I haven't read Deception, thanks to the rightful negative feedback promptly stopping me from ordering it (I was already apprehensive when discovering that Drew Karpyshyn hadn't written it).
I've read Revelations, Ascension and Retribution all thrice now (I usually reread all books I own) and personally, Ascension is my favourite, with Retribution being the weakest for me.
If you love Mass Effect, and generally like expanded universe material like comics and the like, the books are worth a go. It has to take a game series I really enjoy for me to look into the other media and merchandise that has been made.
They aren't excellent, and Drew's prose as previously mentioned here isn't something I'd peg as particularly strong (I actually cringed when he used hamburger as an adjective), but if you love Mass Effect then they are light, fluffy enjoyable fun, and they were good enough for me that I reread them. But it is down to everyone's personal taste.
I'd say the biggest draw is that it features a strong likable protagonist in Kahlee Sanders, who was woefully underused in her brief appearance in Mass Effect 3.
I'd say the biggest draw is that it features a strong likable protagonist in Kahlee Sanders, who was woefully underused in her brief appearance in Mass Effect 3.
Everything about ascension was.
One thing I'll say about Drew is he was deeply invested in the human story (in all it's forms). The rest didn't seem to be.
I also liked Saren the Spectre (the plain Spectre version, I mean).
Everything about ascension was.
One thing I'll say about Drew is he was deeply invested in the human story (in all it's forms). The rest didn't seem to be.
I also liked Saren the Spectre (the plain Spectre version, I mean).
Yeah, I enjoyed replaying ME1 a lot more after reading Revelations. I understood and could understand Saren a lot more, and it certainly makes you more sympathetic to him and his indoctrination.
By Retribution, things had gotten too Cerberus-y.
I haven't read Deception, thanks to the rightful negative feedback promptly stopping me from ordering it (I was already apprehensive when discovering that Drew Karpyshyn hadn't written it).
I've read Revelations, Ascension and Retribution all thrice now (I usually reread all books I own) and personally, Ascension is my favourite, with Retribution being the weakest for me.
If you love Mass Effect, and generally like expanded universe material like comics and the like, the books are worth a go. It has to take a game series I really enjoy for me to look into the other media and merchandise that has been made.
They aren't excellent, and Drew's prose as previously mentioned here isn't something I'd peg as particularly strong (I actually cringed when he used hamburger as an adjective), but if you love Mass Effect then they are light, fluffy enjoyable fun, and they were good enough for me that I reread them. But it is down to everyone's personal taste.
I'd say the biggest draw is that it features a strong likable protagonist in Kahlee Sanders, who was woefully underused in her brief appearance in Mass Effect 3.
Haha, I don't think I'll try them then!
Hamburger is an awesome adjective x Love it haha. I have no idea what it could describe though x
Kahlee was the blonde woman right???
Yes, the one at Grissom Academy
I think the main issue with her appearance being too short or underwhelming, was that the Grissom Academy mission had a lot of character cameos to potentially balance, with the possibility of Jack and David Archer also being there as well.
With all three, it's easy to see why Grissom Academy is compared to Xavier's School for Mutants 
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