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[N7Jamaican]

I hope the book is about the ARKCON initiative, the N7 program, and about the setting.  

[ElitePinecone]

I hope the book is about the ARKCON initiative, the N7 program, and about the setting.  

 

Me too. Given that it's called "Initiation", I think we'll be getting the background to the Pathfinder/ARKCON programs. 

[Linkenski]

I hope the book is about the ARKCON initiative, the N7 program, and about the setting.  

Yes, cuz why would the game contain that exposition, right? Just let us shoot things in the face.

[Wulfram]

Considering its written by a third party, and apparently relatively late in the development process, I doubt it'll contain stuff that's necessary to understand the game.

[Han Shot First]

Yes, cuz why would the game contain that exposition, right? Just let us shoot things in the face.

 

Just because it is in a book doesn't necessarily mean the events of the book won't also be mentioned in the game. Anderson provides an info dump for all the core events of Mass Effect: Revelation for example, in the first game. The book just gives a more complete backstory (obviously), but a player who hasn't read the book doesn't miss out on any of the basic details on how Anderson almost ended up a Spectre and got sabotaged by Saren.

 

It was only later books and comics that were used as substitutes for in game exposition. 

[Dr. rotinaj]

Yes, cuz why would the game contain that exposition, right? Just let us shoot things in the face.

 

Mass effect's books handled this well enough. All the events from the books were summarized fine by in-game characters like Anderson and Tali. DA's books seem to have an issue with providing context that would be really useful in-game but having it never actually show up in-game.

[tehturian]

At this point I'm so starved of new Mass Effect content I'd buy a four hundred page document detailing Garrus' tax returns. 

[BioFan (Official)]

At this point I'm so starved of new Mass Effect content I'd buy a four hundred page document detailing Garrus' tax returns. 

 

Spoiler: calibration equipment is not tax deductible 

[The Elder King]

Yes, cuz why would the game contain that exposition, right? Just let us shoot things in the face.

I don't want the game to jump right on combat. I want a prologue that intruduces us to the new setting, as well as the PC. Let's not forget that the information given with the dilalogues will be synthetic and might not cover everything, with the codex filling in on the info the dialogues won't mention or going in more detail on the info mentioned in them (as it happens in other Bioware games). The book can cover the same information in a different way. The book won't be requited anyway to play the game, so they have to put the info on the galaxy change in the game regardless.

[BSpud]

Jemisin, huh? *goes to wiki* That's some nice reward list, impressive. Wait, what is it?

"During her delivery of the Guest of Honour speech at the 2013 Continuum in Australia, Jemisin complained that 10% of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SWFA) membership voted for conservative writer Theodore Beale (also known as Vox Day) in his bid for the SFWA presidential position. She went on to call Beale "racist, misogynistic, and hateful" and noted that silence about these issues was the same as enabling."

Oh, looks like she'll blend in perfectly.

 

Well, to be fair, Beale really is racist, misogynistic, and hateful. Also, not very bright.

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

Well, to be fair, Beale really is racist, misogynistic, and hateful. Also, not very bright.

Didn't he (Beale) call her a black savage?

[Shechinah]

Didn't he (Beale) call her a black savage?

"Being an educated, but ignorant half-savage, with little more understanding of what it took to build a new literature by 'a bunch of beardy old middle-class middle-American guys' than an illiterate Igbotu tribesman has of how to build a jet engine-"
 
"“It is not that I, and others, do not view [Jemisin] as human, (although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homosapiens sapiens), it is that we simply do not view her as being fully civilized for the obvious historical reason that she is not… The laws [Stand Your Ground Laws’ are not there to let whites “just shoot people like me, without consequence, as long as they feel threatened by my presence”, those self-defense laws have been put in place to let whites defend their lives and their property from people, like her, who are half-savages engaged in attacking them.” - Vox Day, otherwise known as Theodore Beale in response to NK Jemisin's comment. (https://voxday.blogs...-fantasist.html)
 
I read some of the post on Beale's blog that the quote was from and barring misunderstandings, it did not sound like it was meant as an ill-thought joke. Then there is his apparent stance on marital rape; https://voxday.blogs...rital-rape.html

Barring whatever flaws N.K. Jemisin might have herself, I can certainly see what her impression of Theodore Beale was likely founded upon... and I would not say it is unfairly founded.

[The Elder King]

"Being an educated, but ignorant half-savage, with little more understanding of what it took to build a new literature by 'a bunch of beardy old middle-class middle-American guys' than an illiterate Igbotu tribesman has of how to build a jet engine-"
 
"“It is not that I, and others, do not view [Jemisin] as human, (although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homosapiens sapiens), it is that we simply do not view her as being fully civilized for the obvious historical reason that she is not… The laws [Stand Your Ground Laws’ are not there to let whites “just shoot people like me, without consequence, as long as they feel threatened by my presence”, those self-defense laws have been put in place to let whites defend their lives and their property from people, like her, who are half-savages engaged in attacking them.” - Vox Day, otherwise known as Theodore Beale in response to NK Jemisin's comment. (https://voxday.blogs...-fantasist.html)
 
I read some of the post on Beale's blog that the quote was from and barring misunderstandings, it did not sound like it was meant as an ill-thought joke. Then there is his apparent stance on marital rape; https://voxday.blogs...rital-rape.html

Barring whatever flaws N.K. Jemisin might have herself, I can certainly see what her impression of Theodore Beale was likely founded upon... and I would not say it is unfairly founded.

Eh, other then his stances in the marital rape blog he seems a bit stupid, unless the mixed up different concepts for some weird way to convince people on his stance. 

[Laughing_Man]

I don't know who this other guy is, and I don't really care, I don't see how it all pertains to said writer and her Mass Effect book or its hypothetical quality or focus.

 

This discussion is only going to get the thread locked.

[goishen]

 
I read some of the post on Beale's blog that the quote was from and barring misunderstandings, it did not sound like it was meant as an ill-thought joke. Then there is his apparent stance on marital rape; https://voxday.blogs...rital-rape.html
 

 

 

I like that first comment.

 

That...    Pretty basically sums it up perfectly.

[The Elder King]

I don't know who this other guy is, and I don't really care, I don't see how it all pertains to said writer and her Mass Effect book or its hypothetical quality or focus.

 

This discussion is only going to get the thread locked.

You're right. 

Though in the end she'll have little freedom in deciding on the events and the lore of the book, if it's about going to Andromeda, and even if it won't be required to play the game the same info (in a different way) we'll be shown in the game.

[SnakeCode]

It's BioWare, I doubt they're going to stop her writing about... the stuff she evidently likes to write about. It'll be encouraged if anything.

[The Elder King]

It's BioWare, I doubt they're going to stop her writing about... the stuff she evidently likes to write about. It'll be encouraged if anything.

That stuff isn't going to be the main focus though, or at least it isn't the part I'm interested for in this book. I want to know about the details on the voyage to Andromeda, and that part of the book isn't going to be decided by her.

[Draining Dragon]

Do I even want to know where this conversation has gone?

[Shechinah]

I don't know who this other guy is, and I don't really care, I don't see how it all pertains to said writer and her Mass Effect book or its hypothetical quality or focus.

 

This discussion is only going to get the thread locked.

 

Yeah, we should focus on the book and not about the writer and whatever views she might hold and why.
 

[straykat]

Vox Day is a supreme douche..

 

But this other person doesn't sound interesting.

[N7Jamaican]

Sometimes, I feel like if I got on YouTube and bashed BioWare or run them through the coals on twitter/blogs, I'd get a book deal or insight into how the game is doing too.

[ArcadiaGrey]

I never bothered with the books or comics, but recently I've read the first DA book The Stolen Throne and it gave a lot of background to Ferelden.   It's improved the game for me so now I'm reading The Calling.   

Would any of you guys recommend the ME books too?  I have some of the comics but they're hit and miss, some of them are a bit weak then others are pretty good.

 

Maybe I should spend the next year reading everything ME before Andromeda comes out....

[N7Jamaican]

I never bothered with the books or comics, but recently I've read the first DA book The Stolen Throne and it gave a lot of background to Ferelden.   It's improved the game for me so now I'm reading The Calling.   

Would any of you guys recommend the ME books too?  I have some of the comics but they're hit and miss, some of them are a bit weak then others are pretty good.

 

Maybe I should spend the next year reading everything ME before Andromeda comes out....

 

I'd recommend all of the ME books except... Deception.  Graphic novels included.

[ArcadiaGrey]

I'd recommend all of the ME books except... Deception.  Graphic novels included.

 

Okay thank you.  Deception?  Is it 'bad but you should probably read it anyway' or 'seriously just don't'?