Okay thank you. Deception? Is it 'bad but you should probably read it anyway' or 'seriously just don't'?
I've read it anyway, but it's a "seriously just don't." Seriously.. DON'T. Too many inconsistencies, lore breaking material. It's like he played Mass Effect 1, and has a very basic knowledge of the Mass Effect universe. Given the greenlight to write a novel with little oversight and editing by BioWare. Thus -- Deception.
I've read it anyway, but it's a "seriously just don't." Seriously.. DON'T. Too many inconsistencies, lore breaking material. It's like he played Mass Effect 1, and has a very basic knowledge of the Mass Effect universe. Given the greenlight to write a novel with little oversight and editing by BioWare. Thus -- Deception.
Seriously? How could that get approved??
Thanks for the heads up, I'll pretend it doesn't exist then.
Seriously? How could that get approved??
Thanks for the heads up, I'll pretend it doesn't exist then.
I bought all the books in Mass Effect 2, and then was disappointed about how short they were.
I bought all the books in Mass Effect 2, and then was disappointed about how short they were.
That's a shame, were they good though?
The first three ME books are quite good at fleshing out the universe. I really liked how Revelation gave us a look at human society in the first decade or two after finding the mass relays, and the other two are decent little side-plots about Cerberus' interest in a powerful biotic girl. They're not brilliant works of literature, but if you want more stories set in the ME universe they're good.
As people have said, don't read Deception under any circumstances. It's terribly written, makes no sense, accomplishes nothing as a story, and basically goes out of its way to crap all over the characters and storylines that were set up in the first three books. It's one of the worst books I've ever read.
That's a shame, were they good though?
No, a waste of credits. It was just like reading the back cover, really.
The first three ME books are quite good at fleshing out the universe. I really liked how Revelation gave us a look at human society in the first decade or two after finding the mass relays, and the other two are decent little side-plots about Cerberus' interest in a powerful biotic girl. They're not brilliant works of literature, but if you want more stories set in the ME universe they're good.
As people have said, don't read Deception under any circumstances. It's terribly written, makes no sense, accomplishes nothing as a story, and basically goes out of its way to crap all over the characters and storylines that were set up in the first three books. It's one of the worst books I've ever read.
Deception should be considered poorly written fan fiction.
No, a waste of credits. It was just like reading the back cover, really.
Wasn't that bad. You can get the books for like under $10. Worth it if you can find on sale.
The first three ME books are quite good at fleshing out the universe. I really liked how Revelation gave us a look at human society in the first decade or two after finding the mass relays, and the other two are decent little side-plots about Cerberus' interest in a powerful biotic girl. They're not brilliant works of literature, but if you want more stories set in the ME universe they're good.
As people have said, don't read Deception under any circumstances. It's terribly written, makes no sense, accomplishes nothing as a story, and basically goes out of its way to crap all over the characters and storylines that were set up in the first three books. It's one of the worst books I've ever read.
Thanks for the info. Given the wait for Andromeda they'll keep me occupied till then at least. I enjoyed reading the comic about TIM and Liara finding Shep's body, so I'm up for the books too.
Good grief, Deception sounds like a total clusterf***.
Wasn't that bad. You can get the books for like under $10. Worth it if you can find on sale.
Oh, I do own the books. I was talking about buying them in Mass Effect 2. 
I like the books, but they were Drew K stories.. and I feel like he was trying to go somewhere with human biotics. He even floated around the idea for the ME3 ending. But it amounted to little without him around.
Oh, I do own the books. I was talking about buying them in Mass Effect 2.
/facepalm.
That joke just went right over my head, how did I not see that? 
/facepalm.
That joke just went right over my head, how did I not see that?
In all fairness, it wasn't a very good joke. 
SnipIt's perfectly possible to be both, at the same time. Someone can certainly be obsessed with the lore and themes of the franchise while also examining how it handles racial/social/sexual themes.
SnipWhether you agree with her or not, it's surely a good thing that N. K. Jemisin has actually played the trilogy - unlike, for instance, William Dietz.
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Hm... perfectly possible, yes.
Still, EA's senior management would disagree, I think. about where the focus of Initiation should be. Remember, EA, as a game publisher, wants to market to the masses for profits. Those same "masses" are hardly the intellectual types. Writing a book on complex social issues while also giving us a peek into the ARKON project may not sell very well. Personally, I prefer a book that focuses more on the ARKON Project story than high energy social gravitas with its personnel. For an intellectual stimulation of the latter, I'd go for The Study of Social Problems: Seven Perspectives
Jemisin may very well surprise me with her book, even though I can't see a speculative fiction writer in a sci-fi setting. Nevertheless, I wish her all the luck with her travails.
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Hm... perfectly possible, yes.
Still, EA's senior management would disagree, I think. about where the focus of Initiation should be. Remember, EA, as a game publisher, wants to market to the masses for profits. Those same "masses" are hardly the intellectual types. Writing a book on complex social issues while also giving us a peek into the ARKON project may not sell very well. Personally, I prefer a book that focuses more on the ARKON Project story than high energy social gravitas with its personnel. For an intellectual stimulation of the latter, I'd go for The Study of Social Problems: Seven Perspectives
Jemisin may very well surprise me with her book, even though I can't see a speculative fiction writer in a sci-fi setting. Nevertheless, I wish her all the luck with her travails.
I don't if I agree. Because Dune is my favorite sci-fi novel. And that's got plenty of this.
I'm just skeptical of her particular brand. And Herbert wasn't pretentious either.
I've read it anyway, but it's a "seriously just don't." Seriously.. DON'T. Too many inconsistencies, lore breaking material. It's like he played Mass Effect 1, and has a very basic knowledge of the Mass Effect universe. Given the greenlight to write a novel with little oversight and editing by BioWare. Thus -- Deception.
Here's a list of errors and inconsistencies that was found in Mass Effect: Deception;
https://docs.google....o/preview?pli=1
Deception should be considered poorly written fan fiction.
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I stopped reading it after the first chapter.
Here's a list of errors and inconsistencies that was found in Mass Effect: Deception;
https://docs.google....o/preview?pli=1
Wow, that's really bad, it seems like whoever it was that wrote this took the Lore as a recommendation only...
Which brings me back to my original point, I'd rather see a writer obsessed with the lore and universe of Mass Effect,
than someone obsessed with gender / race politics and how they can be applied to Mass Effect.
Here's a list of errors and inconsistencies that was found in Mass Effect: Deception;
https://docs.google....o/preview?pli=1
I was going to read it either way, just to see how bad it is. But this... I don't know I can handle that much.
Which brings me back to my original point, I'd rather see a writer obsessed with the lore and universe of Mass Effect,
than someone obsessed with gender / race politics and how they can be applied to Mass Effect.
And again, these two things are not mutually exclusive!
Wow, that's really bad, it seems like whoever it was that wrote this took the Lore as a recommendation only...
Which brings me back to my original point, I'd rather see a writer obsessed with the lore and universe of Mass Effect,
than someone obsessed with gender / race politics and how they can be applied to Mass Effect.
I do agree. The point some are trying to make is that regardless of her stances she might know well the lore of the game. There's nothing indicating she doesn't know it or that she won't read more before writing the book.
To be fair, Drew K was like a garbage man or furniture mover... or something... before writing. And who knows what the hell his politics were. 
And again, these two things are not mutually exclusive!
I do agree. The point some are trying to make is that regardless of her stances she might know well the lore of the game. There's nothing indicating she doesn't know it or that she won't read more before writing the book.
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