Kelly has been spending a lot of time with it, recently...
I hate this stupid meme. There is nothing to support it and stuff to oppose it, like the fact she is the only LI that doesn't neccesarily sleep with Shepard.
As for the topic, is Shepard completely gone or is there enough of them left that they could be talked down like Saren and TIM?
Anyone can kill Shepard if they can line up a good shot or get the jump on him/her. As some have said before the only reason why Shepard managed to survive so long was because of luck.
don't forget training and skills.
If there is a thing we all learned is that Shep should never be underestimated...
don't forget training and skills.
If there is a thing we all learned is that Shep should never be underestimated...
You're missing the point training and skill mean nothing if Shepard is in the wrong place at the wrong time especially if he/she is caught off guard. Luck is the only reason why Shepard is still alive.
You're missing the point training and skill mean nothing if Shepard is in the wrong place at the wrong time especially if he/she is caught off guard. Luck is the only reason why Shepard is still alive.
training and skills are the reason Shepard is never in the wrong place in the wrong time.
luck is a hollow asset when you are not smart enough to use it in your favor.
training and skills are the reason Shepard is never in the wrong place in the wrong time.
The only time some one will know their in the wrong place at the wrong time is when its too late i.e. when the collector's destroy the Normandy) and realistically speaking the more frequently some fights the more likely their going to get them selves killed. Also so no matter how good some one's training and skill is if their in the wrong place at the wrong time they won't last long even if its for a few seconds.
luck is a hollow asset when you are not smart enough to use it in your favor.
No it isn't, luck is the sole reason why Shepard manged to last so long, if it were real life there's a good chance that Shepard would've died long before the trilogy.
No it isn't, luck is the sole reason why Shepard manged to last so long, if it were real life there's a good chance that Shepard would've died long before the trilogy.
You keep repeating this word, but don't provide any examples.
When someone is "lucky" 95% of the time, it's not luck. Through the trilogy Shepard may be defeated up to three times - Normandy crush, Suicide Mission, Rho mission, all of which put Shepard into situation when it's physically impossible to win and lack of skill/strength/whatever has nothing to do with it.
On the contrary, Shepard has tons of abilities which even some renown specialists lack. Game gives enough examples of it.
Depends on the class and situation, do they ambush Shep while he's sleeping or it is 1vs1 fight.
1vs1 probably Jack, Samara, Wrex, Javik, any biotic (although it vary as in Liara has better chances than Jacob), ME2&ME3 EDI, Mordin, Morinth, Grunt, Thane, Miranda...
Everyone has a chance to beat Shep but I think the ones I listed have better chances than let's say the refund guy or Oriana.
You keep repeating this word, but don't provide any examples.
When someone is "lucky" 95% of the time, it's not luck. Through the trilogy Shepard may be defeated up to three times - Normandy crush, Suicide Mission, Rho mission, all of which put Shepard into situation when it's physically impossible to win and lack of skill/strength/whatever has nothing to do with it.
On the contrary, Shepard has tons of abilities which even some renown specialists lack. Game gives enough examples of it.
If ME were to be like real life Shepard could've died a while before the trilogy started the more battle's one fights the more likely they'll get killed. Also plot armor is a major factor as to why Shepard survived such situations not skills or training so really skill has little to do with why Shepard has survived so long.
If ME were to be like real life Shepard could've died a while before the trilogy started the more battle's one fights the more likely they'll get killed. Also plot armor is a major factor as to why Shepard survived such situations not skills or training so really skill has little to do with why Shepard has survived so long.
If ME were anything like real life, Shepard would have stayed dead at the beginning of ME2. 
If ME were to be like real life Shepard could've died a while before the trilogy started the more battle's one fights the more likely they'll get killed. Also plot armor is a major factor as to why Shepard survived such situations not skills or training so really skill has little to do with why Shepard has survived so long.
Yeah,luck is clearly the only thing that matters in a battle...
Miyamoto Musashi,Leonidas of Sparta,Alexander Magnus,Genghis Khan,Julius Caesar were great warriors and survived against impossible odds only because they were lucky enough to do it.
Of course they had no training,skills,or even courage enough to face everything and rise,the only reason they survived after so many battles was because of their luck...
Listen,this time for real,some civillians become warriors,some warriors become heroes,and some heroes become legends.That's the way it is.
They had luck? probably.
They died after many battles? Yeah,sure
But they lived long enough to put their names in history,and that was not because of their luck or cowardice.They did it because they were strong and smart enough to beat numerous foes.
As I said,luck matters,but it's useless if you are not prepared enough for the challenge...
Yeah,luck is clearly the only thing that matters in a battle...
Miyamoto Musashi,Leonidas of Sparta,Alexander Magnus,Genghis Khan,Julius Caesar were great warriors and survived against impossible odds only because they were lucky enough to do it.
Of course they had no training,skills,or even courage enough to face everything and rise,the only reason they survived after so many battles was because of their luck...
Listen,this time for real,some civillians become warriors,some warriors become heroes,and some heroes become legends.That's the way it is.
They had luck? probably.
They died after many battles? Yeah,sure
But they lived long enough to put their names in history,and that was not because of their luck or cowardice.They did it because they were strong and smart enough to beat numerous foes.
As I said,luck matters,but it's useless if you are not prepared enough for the challenge...
Again your completely missing the point no matter how good Shepard was a solider anyone can kill Shepard if he/she is at the wrong place at the wrong time. Shepard's skills and training did nothing to stop him/her from being killed at the start of ME2 and being nearly vaporized by harbinger near the end of ME3. In both cases Shepard was in the wrong place at the wrong time and didn't last very long only surviving the latter due to plot armor. Luck and plot armor are the only reasons why Shepard managed to make it so far.
Again your completely missing the point no matter how good Shepard was a solider anyone can kill Shepard if he/she is at the wrong place at the wrong time. Shepard's skills and training did nothing to stop him/her from being killed at the start of ME2 and being nearly vaporized by harbinger near the end of ME3. In both cases Shepard was in the wrong place at the wrong time and didn't last very long only surviving the latter due to plot armor. Luck and plot armor are the only reasons why Shepard managed to make it so far.
Plot armor... and the fact that the player will reset and continue after each "critical failure" screen. 
(BTW, I do agree with you overall). Of course, my Kaidan regularly takes armature hits to the face, goes down, and later gets up claiming "It's just a scratch."
OP: Shepard is mortal and fallible, so, even though highly trained and highly skilled, is quite capable of messing up and getting killed. Every soldier is.
Again your completely missing the point no matter how good Shepard was a solider anyone can kill Shepard if he/she is at the wrong place at the wrong time. Shepard's skills and training did nothing to stop him/her from being killed at the start of ME2 and being nearly vaporized by harbinger near the end of ME3. In both cases Shepard was in the wrong place at the wrong time and didn't last very long only surviving the latter due to plot armor. Luck and plot armor are the only reasons why Shepard managed to make it so far.
So Cap America only defeated Iron Man because of plot armor and luck? the same reason why Batman defeated Superman and Darkseid?
They have skills and had training before going to these battles.They did not win because of plot armor or luck.
They won because they are better.
Shepard survived this whole time because he/she outclassed all their oponents,as they would do to anyone dumb enough to try to beat them.
So Cap America only defeated Iron Man because of plot armor and luck? the same reason why Batman defeated Superman and Darkseid?
They have skills and had training before going to these battles.They did not win because of plot armor or luck.
They won because they are better.
Shepard survived this whole time because he/she outclassed all their oponents,as they would do to anyone dumb enough to try to beat them.
The plot of ME is that Shepard is not a superhero like the examples you cite above. Shepard continually says the he/she is "just a soldier"... regardless of the class you select. Therefore, the story is written in such a way that basically any of his/her companions and any of the his/her enemies could conceivably "beat" Shepard if the right circumstances presented themselves. The story is also written in such a way that those "right circumstance" never do actually present themselves... and if they do (with respect to enemies), the PC "dies", the "critical failure" screen appears, and the player reloads. The companions are, for all intents and purposes, the invincible ones since they will recover on their own (no medi-gel) any time Shepard clears the radar of enemies and Shepard cannot shoot any of them in a natural course of battle (i.e. no friendly fire).
So Cap America only defeated Iron Man because of plot armor and luck? the same reason why Batman defeated Superman and Darkseid?
They have skills and had training before going to these battles.They did not win because of plot armor or luck.
They won because they are better.
Shepard survived this whole time because he/she outclassed all their oponents,as they would do to anyone dumb enough to try to beat them.
Once again you missed the point, no matter how skilled a solider Shepard is any one can kill Shepard provided that he/she is at the wrong place at the wrong time. The start of ME2 and running to the teleport near the end of ME3 are both examples of Shepard being at the wrong place at the wrong time and Shepard skills were of no use in both situation and Shepard got beaten.
Once again you missed the point, no matter how skilled a solider Shepard is any one can kill Shepard provided that he/she is at the wrong place at the wrong time. The start of ME2 and running to the teleport near the end of ME3 are both examples of Shepard being at the wrong place at the wrong time and Shepard skills were of no use in both situation and Shepard got beaten.
Yeah,one time by a massive ship and the other by an Alien God.
We are running in circles here...
Yeah,one time by a massive ship and the other by an Alien God.
We are running in circles here...
Doesn't matter if a pistol or a warship is used to beat Shepard, point still stands.
Doesn't matter if a pistol or a warship is used to beat Shepard, point still stands.
Yeah,so fighting a guy with a pistol is totally like fighting the same guy inside an Alien Dreadnought?
whatever you say fam
I'm done...
Yeah,so fighting a guy with a pistol is totally like fighting the same guy inside an Alien Dreadnought?
whatever you say fam
I'm done...
... and insisting on directly comparing an intentionally writeen human (i.e. mortal) soldier with an Superhero in fiction is any better? Shepard is a highly trained soldier, but, as a mortal being, he can be brought down/beaten by just about anyone. A real-life example here is the American Sniper, Chris Kyle. Highly trained, one of the best snipers in the US forces, killed by a more mediocre ex-soldier on a shooting range. Kyle made a mistake and it cost him his life... something Shepard could also have done (had the "plot armor" of the story not prevented it).
Yeah,so fighting a guy with a pistol is totally like fighting the same guy inside an Alien Dreadnought?
whatever you say fam
I'm done...
There is no such thing as a fair fight in warfare you do what ever it takes to defeat the enemy this is something you keep ignoring.
... and insisting on directly comparing an intentionally writeen human (i.e. mortal) soldier with an Superhero in fiction is any better? Shepard is a highly trained soldier, but, as a mortal being, he can be brought down/beaten by just about anyone. A real-life example here is the American Sniper, Chris Kyle. Highly trained, one of the best snipers in the US forces, killed by a more mediocre ex-soldier on a shooting range. Kyle made a mistake and it cost him his life... something Shepard could also have done (had the "plot armor" of the story not prevented it).
Well said.
... and insisting on directly comparing an intentionally writeen human (i.e. mortal) soldier with an Superhero in fiction is any better? Shepard is a highly trained soldier, but, as a mortal being, he can be brought down/beaten by just about anyone. A real-life example here is the American Sniper, Chris Kyle. Highly trained, one of the best snipers in the US forces, killed by a more mediocre ex-soldier on a shooting range. Kyle made a mistake and it cost him his life... something Shepard could also have done (had the "plot armor" of the story not prevented it).
Shepard can suffer death by snu-snu if you're dumb enough to take Morinth up on her offer.
Shepard can suffer death by snu-snu if you're dumb enough to take Morinth up on her offer.
= Critical failure = reload to continue playing the game from a point immediately before the convo. Pretty much the same as any other combat death the player suffers.
= Critical failure = reload to continue playing the game from a point immediately before the convo. Pretty much the same as any other combat death the player suffers.
What it should have done is create a pop-up message with "You idiot! Shepard's dead now," written on it, and then the PC/console should have self destructed.
... or a gif of Morinth laughing should have become the "critical mission failure" screen for the rest of the trilogy.
= Critical failure = reload to continue playing the game from a point immediately before the convo. Pretty much the same as any other combat death the player suffers.
And it's still a situation where Shepard can be defeated by a "more mediocre" soldier by making a mistake that costs him his life.
Though it is a pretty dumb mistake
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