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[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

has anyone else wondered what Eezo's raw form is because the mass effect wiki doesn't say much about having one

 

 

[TheN7Penguin]

There are a few possibilities, but I would say that it is most likely to be a crystal.

 

It is common to asteroid debris. When subjected to vast amounts of heat from the star going supernova, it is possible that the matter would melt and cool and form crystals, just like rocks do on Earth - the size of the crystal depending entirely upon the rate of cooling. As it is a star going supernova, the effects are likely to be different, but it's a possibility. This would also account for the 'dust form' element zero mentioned, as the crystals could be ground. It would also account for the term 'mining' used, as mining usually refers to extraction of solid material. Perhaps there is an element zero ore of some kind. But yes, that was my initial thought. Then again, I'm educated in Geology... so I might have a bit of a bias. But I would definitely put my money on the raw form of element zero being crystalline.

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

ok  tha

 

There are a few possibilities, but I would say that it is most likely to be a crystal.

 

It is common to asteroid debris. When subjected to vast amounts of heat from the star going supernova, it is possible that the matter would melt and cool and form crystals, just like rocks do on Earth - the size of the crystal depending entirely upon the rate of cooling. As it is a star going supernova, the effects are likely to be different, but it's a possibility. This would also account for the 'dust form' element zero mentioned, as the crystals could be ground. It would also account for the term 'mining' used, as mining usually refers to extraction of solid material. Perhaps there is an element zero ore of some kind. But yes, that was my initial thought. Then again, I'm educated in Geology... so I might have a bit of a bias. But I would definitely put my money on the raw form of element zero being crystalline.

ok that definatly helps, thank you

[TheN7Penguin]

That is in no way a fact, just my opinion. I don't think it's ever been officially mentioned what the raw form of it is, that was just my initial thought about it.

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

eh either way it help, the main reason i created this forum was because i am writing a mass effect fan fiction (don't judge me) and had idea's concering Eezo outside of being able to generate a mess effect field

[TheN7Penguin]

Don't worry, I'm not judging.

 

Glad to help. I can't promise that it would be a crystal, but it will most likely be a solid of some description. In ME2 you find it in containers, and it would hard to store it in such a container were it a liquid or a gas. In order to be a dust, it would also have to already be a solid of some description which would have been ground down - or it would have to have a structure like salts in its raw form, which are crystalline - yet could be colloquially known as 'dust'. Either way, both structures would be solid. The crystal theory (whether they are larger crystals or smaller ones), is based upon - as I mentioned - my education in Geology. As the star would go into supernova, the matter would be subjected to a tremendous amount of heat. I believe that planets are specifically mentioned? When you subject rock to a large amount of heat or pressure, it will melt and crystallise as it cools. That is the only reason why I suggested a crystal structure. I have absolutely no idea what would happen to other forms of matter other than rock, but as I said - planets were specifically mentioned, as well as asteroid debris.

 

 

Ahem. Science. Yeah.

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

well like i said that helps a lot, my intention was to create something that would be able to in a sense cripple someone. to that point i decided something like a bullet with an Eezo tip which would activate a mass effect field the moment it pierces the armor hitting the electronics that i believe would be within certain points of the armor that would in turn destroy a part of that persons body

 

 then again something like that would not only be incredible  hard to create but would also be in essence a one time thing, as such i honestly believe that it would be a reaper based weapon

[TheN7Penguin]

Given that mass effect fields are only created by an electrical current being sent through element zero, it would be quite hard to fit it into a bullet. Unless you had an element zero tip and some sort of electronic bullet... it would be very hard to actually do, especially with the weapon technology in Mass Effect. I may be wrong, but aren't the rounds shaved from an internal metal block? Unless you invent your own weapon technology entirely, something custom-made, it would be almost impossible to do with the standard Mass Effect weapon.

 

Alternatively, you could have it as a kind of electroshock weapon? Element zero tipped barbs to pierce armour, and then an electric current to create a mass effect field. Of course, it could only be used at close range due to the length of the wires...

(Sorry, this is me just brainstorming ideas).

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

no its fine although your last idea is pretty similar to what i have although instead of relying on an internal electric source i was considering using the electricity, such as hitting the omni tool or a very lucky shot hitting say a electronic patch that moniters the suit user's vitals

[TheN7Penguin]

no its fine although your last idea is pretty similar to what i have although instead of relying on an internal electric source i was considering using the electricity, such as hitting the omni tool or a very lucky shot hitting say a electronic patch that moniters the suit user's vitals

 

You could alternatively use a design similar to that of the Arc Projector, which has a higher range than a taser. See here:

 

http://masseffect.wi...i/Arc_Projector

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

while something like an arc projetor would be extreamly fun to theorize, i honestly dont think i could pull something like that off without finding dozens of flaws. The most prominant one is you a firing a mass effect field from the gun meaning that you will either just encase the area in front of you is said mass effect field or you yourself would be caught up within it, and so far all im seeing is a big bubble that can reduced weight

[TheN7Penguin]

Element zero doesn't cause Mass Effect fields until subjected to an electric current. Although it would be a very slow gun to use, a modified Arc Projector which would fire eezo tipped barbs before sending out an electric current would provide armour piercing and better range than a taser like design. There's also the Arc Pistol which has a similar function, but has an even more range. Add a second barrel to fire the barbs and you're ready to go. Although it might be ridiculously complicated to make and use.

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

true although i would prefer it to be like a one use item which in the case, a arc projector is an energy weapon and as such would most likely be able to use Eezos raw form without any problems while i can imagine a pistol or sniper would get damaged beyond repair in some way

[Arisugawa]

I could be mistaken...but don't we see eezo being mined about 2/3 of the way through the Omega DLC?

In that, it looks like luminescent blue rock or ore, which is why fans of a DA/ME crossover like to liken it to lyrium.

[Meliodas_the_dragon_sin]

played all three and outside of using the probes i have never seen the Eezo being mined 

[Iakus]

has anyone else wondered what Eezo's raw form is because the mass effect wiki doesn't say much about having one

It was deliberately made vague what eezo actually is.  But it is definitely not an element.  That's just a term humans gave it:

 

 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.342443-Fans-Tear-New-Mass-Effect-Book-to-Shreds?page=3#13796155

[TheN7Penguin]

It was deliberately made vague what eezo actually is.  But it is definitely not an element.  That's just a term humans gave it:

 

 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.342443-Fans-Tear-New-Mass-Effect-Book-to-Shreds?page=3#13796155

 

It might not be an element, but it has to have some form for it to be mined, and to form biotics, and to be in a dust form.

[Iakus]

It might not be an element, but it has to have some form for it to be mined, and to form biotics, and to be in a dust form.

True, but the important thing is that it's specific description was deliberately left vague, even to the point of being called a "material"

 

If I had to guess, I'd say it was some sort of metal, given references to it being refined from ore and such.  Even then that leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

[TheN7Penguin]

True, but the important thing is that it's specific description was deliberately left vague, even to the point of being called a "material"
 
If I had to guess, I'd say it was some sort of metal, given references to it being refined from ore and such.  Even then that leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

I did think about it being some sort of metal, but realised that it would make no sense. It certainly cannot be a pure metal, otherwise it would be an element - a compound or alloy is possible, but again unlikely. While it would explain why mass effect fields are formed (in the same respect that normal metals produce electromagnetic fields when subjected to an electric current)... it somehow seems unlikely. Even though supernovas do tend to enrich the surrounding area with metals, it specifically mentions it's matter affected by the energy of a star going supernova, not deposited because of a star going supernova. Again, it also does not account for Element Zero actually not being an element.
Materials like diamonds also have ores, just saying. They're not specific for metals.

Personally, a crystalline structure seems to be a more realistic interpretation. It accounts for more of element zero's properties.

[Lord Kiran]

I did think about it being some sort of metal, but realised that it would make no sense. It certainly cannot be a pure metal, otherwise it would be an element - a compound or alloy is possible, but again unlikely. While it would explain why mass effect fields are formed (in the same respect that normal metals produce electromagnetic fields when subjected to an electric current)... it somehow seems unlikely. Even though supernovas do tend to enrich the surrounding area with metals, it specifically mentions it's matter affected by the energy of a star going supernova, not deposited because of a star going supernova. Again, it also does not account for Element Zero actually not being an element.
Materials like diamonds also have ores, just saying. They're not specific for metals.

Personally, a crystalline structure seems to be a more realistic interpretation. It accounts for more of element zero's properties.

Late post but did you ever consider it could be a metal comparable to gallium or mercury in terms of melting point?