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[KamuiStorm]

Who or rather what type of villain do you think the khet's leader will be portrayed as? Will their leader be saren 2.0 and ultimately be out shadowed by an even greater threat or will their leader be the greater threat?

Here's what I think, I did a lot of research and I've discovered this. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/d6QCZul

I believe that link will provide you with compelling and dare I say irrefutable proof of why I think The füh·rer is back. I suppose eminem was right when he said. Er ist wieder da, wieder zurück!

illuminati bestätigt!!

No but seriously, what type of alien will the khet's leader be? Powerful, intimidating, ruthless with a killer mustache or patient, cold and calculating with a brutal and malicious streak that the füh·rer himself would drool over? Will their leader be frail, ancient, immobile but with transcendent wisdom? Will he be the sole survivor of vault 111 I mean sole survivor of the remnant? Can you imagine the khet being ruled over by a member of the remnant? I'm not sure how I'd feel about that. Thoughts on the khet's leader?

[ArabianIGoggles]

As long as it's not someone that you can convince to kill themselves.

[MEcamilla]

Aren't they suppose to be half-synthetic? Their leader might consider himself/herself the ultimate protector of Andromeda, set to destroy us, the invaders, at any cost. Manipulating the less evolved species to attack us, creating propaganda (GHOST RIDERS IN THE SKY) etc.
We're basically ruining their monopoly lol

[Scarlett]

The Khet : I don't know, it seems they'll try to protect Andromeda from us. So, as long as they don't give me a brainless violent antagonist without any background, I'm fine with everything.

 

 

As long as it's not someone that you can convince to kill themselves.

Talking about Saren ? I think his suicide was a great option because in the end he was just a puppet. Killing himself was his only way out and last/only option to say "no" to Sovereign. I love that scene ~

[Laughing_Man]

That's some strong **** you are smoking there.

[LightningPoodle]

I hope the villain is someone I can relate to. 

[Prince Enigmatic]

The Khet : I don't know, it seems they'll try to protect Andromeda from us. So, as long as they don't give me a brainless violent antagonist without any background, I'm fine with everything.

 

 

Talking about Saren ? I think his suicide was a great option because in the end he was just a puppet. Killing himself was his only way out and last/only option to say "no" to Sovereign. I love that scene ~

 

I agree that Saren's suicide was a good option for his character arc in ME1, and I think its more impactful than having to fight him again in the Citadel Chambers. I think though that with the Illusive Man's (possible) suicide, it just felt like retreading old ground, and I don't know, I personally didn't think it fit with him, even if he was aware he was indoctrinated like Saren, I just didn't think it needed to happen. Everything up until his suicide, that confrontation with him and Anderson, I liked.

 

As for the Khet's leader, not knowing much so far, I'd also like there to be some relatability to them and the Khet, whatever they may be. 

I think it creates a greater sense of conflict if you empathize with a character who stands in the way of the protagonists goals, rather than just a moustache twirling, desk punching evil villain you are just tailored to hate from the get go, and put all your effort into stopping them. It makes you question your protagonist, and it removes any sense of absolution, no clear cut good or evil, more two people operating within this morally grey area.

 

Its those kind of conflicts I really like and find more compelling. A recent one I really liked was in Daredevil Season 2, the dynamic between Daredevil and the Punisher. 

 

The Khet's leader may initially appear to us as our antagonist, or one antagonist, but as we get to learn more about the Khet, from sources that may not influence our perception (much how turians and salarians painted the krogans in a negative image etc), we understand them more, why they are doing what they are doing, and questioning maybe why we are opposing them.

 

A long post, apologies, just something I'm interested in seeing in Andromeda. I'd like to hope the game and BioWare gives us a new interesting antagonist, or anti-hero or whatever, and not just a typical evil race of aliens/machines we must fight to destroy. I get the sense from reading about Dragon Age on here that that has been done to death with Darkspawn, and the thing beginning with C from Inquisition?

[ZipZap2000]

That's some strong **** you are smoking there.

You say that like its a bad thing.

*Swirls Ryncol*

[ArabianIGoggles]

The Khet : I don't know, it seems they'll try to protect Andromeda from us. So, as long as they don't give me a brainless violent antagonist without any background, I'm fine with everything.

 

 

Talking about Saren ? I think his suicide was a great option because in the end he was just a puppet. Killing himself was his only way out and last/only option to say "no" to Sovereign. I love that scene ~

Talking two "boss" characters into suicide is too much.  Saren's isn't bad, but having TIM do it was crap.

[MEcamilla]

I agree that Saren's suicide was a good option for his character arc in ME1, and I think its more impactful than having to fight him again in the Citadel Chambers. I think though that with the Illusive Man's (possible) suicide, it just felt like retreading old ground, and I don't know, I personally didn't think it fit with him, even if he was aware he was indoctrinated like Saren, I just didn't think it needed to happen. Everything up until his suicide, that confrontation with him and Anderson, I liked.

As for the Khet's leader, not knowing much so far, I'd also like there to be some relatability to them and the Khet, whatever they may be.
I think it creates a greater sense of conflict if you empathize with a character who stands in the way of the protagonists goals, rather than just a moustache twirling, desk punching evil villain you are just tailored to hate from the get go, and put all your effort into stopping them. It makes you question your protagonist, and it removes any sense of absolution, no clear cut good or evil, more two people operating within this morally grey area.

Its those kind of conflicts I really like and find more compelling. A recent one I really liked was in Daredevil Season 2, the dynamic between Daredevil and the Punisher.

The Khet's leader may initially appear to us as our antagonist, or one antagonist, but as we get to learn more about the Khet, from sources that may not influence our perception (much how turians and salarians painted the krogans in a negative image etc), we understand them more, why they are doing what they are doing, and questioning maybe why we are opposing them.

A long post, apologies, just something I'm interested in seeing in Andromeda. I'd like to hope the game and BioWare gives us a new interesting antagonist, or anti-hero or whatever, and not just a typical evil race of aliens/machines we must fight to destroy. I get the sense from reading about Dragon Age on here that that has been done to death with Darkspawn, and the thing beginning with C from Inquisition?

The Reapers, even after knowing their purpose, felt generic. But seeing my friends and my homeworld crushed by Reaper forces made me want to crush them back. So that's something the ME trilogy did right - it made me feel invested.

[Scarlett]

Talking two "boss" characters into suicide is too much.  Saren's isn't bad, but having TIM do it was crap.

 

I totally forgot it could happen to TIM (I shooted him the second it was possible XD) : for him, I agree, mainly because suicide doesn't match with his personality, who he is, what he did.

[SKAR]

I hear the antagonist is going to be human. Maybe working with the khet.

[SKAR]

I totally forgot it could happen to TIM (I shooted him the second it was possible XD) : for him, I agree, mainly because suicide doesn't fit the character at all.

suicide doesn't fit anyone.

[SolNebula]

I hope for someone who is acting by his/her own will with a clear plan and agenda. No more indoctrinated pawns please,

[N7Jamaican]

I want the Khet leader to be "The Governor" from The Walking Dead.  Or whatever the dudes name that carries around "Lucille" the baseball bat in TWD.

[Scarlett]

suicide doesn't fit anyone.

I was obviously thinking about what he did during the trilogy, his personality and all. So it doesn't fit his personality, who he is, his actions. I corrected my post with better words (I hope).

[Halfdan The Menace]

He must be a distant relative of Mehmed The Conqueror.

[Obliviousmiss]

You say that like its a bad thing.

*Swirls Ryncol*

 

Zip, when you swirl your Ryncol, I can't figure it out. Are you swirling it with your finger, actually getting it wet? Or are you drinking your Ryncol out of a martini glass and are just swirling it round and round while you're holding it? I've been wondering this for awhile, and I need an answer. It's important. 

[goishen]

Zip, when you swirl your Ryncol, I can't figure it out. Are you swirling it with your finger, actually getting it wet? Or are you drinking your Ryncol out of a martini glass and are just swirling it round and round while you're holding it? I've been wondering this for awhile, and I need an answer. It's important. 

 

 

Or with a little plastic sword spearing an olive?

[Prince Enigmatic]

The Reapers, even after knowing their purpose, felt generic. But seeing my friends and my homeworld crushed by Reaper forces made me want to crush them back. So that's something the ME trilogy did right - it made me feel invested.

 

I agree here, and I too was invested in the entirety of the trilogy to stop the Reapers.

 

But the Reapers as an antagonist, and concept within the narrative and plot of the games, has been done. Done well with Mass Effect, and I'm sure some would argue done well in Dragon Age as well. (i can't speak for the latter as I haven't played them)

 

Just hoping that we get something new with whoever our antagonists may be, so that it just doesn't feel like Reapers 2.0. The Reapers for me were a good enemy to face, and whilst its debatable as to whether there quality remained with each entry in the trilogy, I feel like that concept should be closed with the Mass Effect trilogy, and there be a newer and different sort of threat/villain what have you for Andromeda.

 

That said, I like how the first Mass Effect set up the Reapers as the main antagonists of the series, and the way that was handled would be welcomed in Andromeda for me. I liked the surprise and realization of just what it was we were facing here, not a twist necessarily, but something we weren't expecting initially from what we learnt at the start. 

[MEcamilla]

I agree here, and I too was invested in the entirety of the trilogy to stop the Reapers.
 
But the Reapers as an antagonist, and concept within the narrative and plot of the games, has been done. Done well with Mass Effect, and I'm sure some would argue done well in Dragon Age as well. (i can't speak for the latter as I haven't played them)
 
Just hoping that we get something new with whoever our antagonists may be, so that it just doesn't feel like Reapers 2.0. The Reapers for me were a good enemy to face, and whilst its debatable as to whether there quality remained with each entry in the trilogy, I feel like that concept should be closed with the Mass Effect trilogy, and there be a newer and different sort of threat/villain what have you for Andromeda.
 
That said, I like how the first Mass Effect set up the Reapers as the main antagonists of the series, and the way that was handled would be welcomed in Andromeda for me. I liked the surprise and realization of just what it was we were facing here, not a twist necessarily, but something we weren't expecting initially from what we learnt at the start.

True, the element of mystery throughout the 1st game was intriguing. The conversation on Virmire? I was at the edge of my seat, listening to every word, trying to connect the dots. Once the mystery was gone and the war was full on, my focus shifted elsewhere, on the emotional aspect of things.

I don't think Bioware will go for Reapers 2.0, like you said, the original trilogy is a separate medium, they made it clear during interviews. But honestly, I've no idea what's coming with the Khet.

[Scarlett]

 

Just hoping that we get something new with whoever our antagonists may be, so that it just doesn't feel like Reapers 2.0. The Reapers for me were a good enemy to face, and whilst its debatable as to whether there quality remained with each entry in the trilogy, I feel like that concept should be closed with the Mass Effect trilogy, and there be a newer and different sort of threat/villain what have you for Andromeda.

 

 

I totally agree, I don't want to have the Reapers back or even Cerberus. I want new fresh interesting antagonists.

I'm also a bit tired of the synthetics / organics thematic. I hope we won't have to deal with the same sort of plot than the original trilogy.

[Prince Enigmatic]

I totally agree, I don't want to have the Reapers back or even Cerberus. I want new fresh interesting antagonists.

I'm also a bit tired of the synthetics / organics thematic. I hope we won't have to deal with the same sort of plot than the original trilogy.

 

Yes, for the sake of variety, can't organics and synthetics just get along now please?

[Beerfish]

Khet just screams a cat like creature, ala the Kzinti from Larry Niven novels.  What I really want to run into is a puppateer like alien.

 

[Kierro Ren]

I want the Khet leader to be "The Governor" from The Walking Dead.  Or whatever the dudes name that carries around "Lucille" the baseball bat in TWD.

 

Your stuff now belongs... to Negan  *whistles creepy ass tune*