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[PuzzledPacifist]

I'm assuming the masterwork stamina bonuses don't stack if you use 2 but do the crit damage bonuses accumulate?

[SassaMFG]

Crit damage bonuses stack. Izzy's Bolt is profe of that. 

[lcneed]

I think a lot of alchemists use 2 hakkons too for the big booms....

[Minuos]

It stacks, but crit damage supposedly has a cap of 190%. With the alleged 40% base crit damage, that means a cap of 150% added crit damage, which explains why a second Hakkon doesn't seem to add as much damage as you might expect.

 

Tested this once with the Hakkon bow (+154% crit damage with upgrade). The initial basic attack against darkspawn archers dealt the same range of damage with or without another 40% from crit damage rings.

[lcneed]

It stacks, but crit damage supposedly has a cap of 190%. With the alleged 40% base crit damage, that means a cap of 150% added crit damage, which explains why a second Hakkon doesn't seem to add as much damage as you might expect.

 

Tested this once with the Hakkon bow (+154% crit damage with upgrade). The initial basic attack against darkspawn archers dealt the same range of damage with or without another 40% from crit damage rings.

 

Oh I did not know that. Interesting.  I thought crit damage was unlimited.

[Caldyrvan]

Well, too less transparency for how things work and exact numbers were always an issue. Even if you read the forum and make your own testings you can´t be sure about thing. People not doing that are almost running blind without even knowing it. Don´t want to know how many player use two ability rings (2x Shield Bash) for example

 

It might be wrong but when testing dagger with Isabela it was clearly more bolt damage with two Hakkon´s Mercy and Flashing Steel seems to be even more powerful. But since the stamina bonuses do not stack with two hakkons and the crit damage bonus from a second one gives only about +50%(or more like +40% (rogues have Dex ^^) I always prefer to use another offhand dagger, especially Bloody Bargain. Not only for the speed proc. more for the 17% HoK (which is more than enough) and frees up 2 ring slots for something more useful

[PuzzledPacifist]

Well, too less transparency for how things work and exact numbers were always an issue. Even if you read the forum and make your own testings you can´t be sure about thing. People not doing that are almost running blind without even knowing it. Don´t want to know how many player use two ability rings (2x Shield Bash) for example

 

It might be wrong but when testing dagger with Isabela it was clearly more bolt damage with two Hakkon´s Mercy and Flashing Steel seems to be even more powerful. But since the stamina bonuses do not stack with two hakkons and the crit damage bonus from a second one gives only about +50%(or more like +40% (rogues have Dex ^^) I always prefer to use another offhand dagger, especially Bloody Bargain. Not only for the speed proc. more for the 17% HoK (which is more than enough) and frees up 2 ring slots for something more useful

Isabela has the passive that adds 50% crit damage too

[Sophloph]

Since this is on the topic of double hakkon daggers we are talking about rogues, so the question(s) I have are:

     1) 150% crit damage with anything and I'm maxed? Confirmed?

     2) Is 200 Cunning really the end of the rogue grind? I know 160 gets my ranged defense to a max, but doesn't each point past 200 also give Dex for more attack power?

     3) I think I've seen this here and there, but which runes and upgrades do you like to put on silencer/savage thorn/bloody bargain? I don't have hakkons or bosun, so curious if armor pen is more preferred than attack % or base stats willpower/cunning.

[Silversmurf]

2) Is 200 Cunning really the end of the rogue grind? I know 160 gets my ranged defense to a max, but doesn't each point past 200 also give Dex for more attack power?

     

 

Yes. 200 is really the end.

 

170 gets max defence.   (170-10/2=80%)

 

No. I wish.

[Minuos]

     1) 150% crit damage with anything and I'm maxed? Confirmed?

 

I've tested this again since my previous post, and the result was the same. Anyone wanting to test this for themselves just needs to make sure the conditions are exactly the same before and after adding more crit damage.