Well now I'm going to feel bad whenever I'm snarky here. ![]()
That's okay, I'll channel that negative emotion into more cutting snark! buahahaha
Well now I'm going to feel bad whenever I'm snarky here. ![]()
That's okay, I'll channel that negative emotion into more cutting snark! buahahaha
Well now I'm going to feel bad whenever I'm snarky here.
That's okay, I'll channel that negative emotion into more cutting snark! buahahaha
Member since 2015, k
Not sure how it is right now, since I don't post as often, but back in the day...
I remember two especially "toxic" and difficult moments in these forums when I was active: Dragon Age 2 release and Mass Effect 3 ending debacle.
I count myself as one of the snarky-angry-toxic contributors when DA2 was released. I was soooooooo disappointed. Now it seems so unimportant and irrelevant... but back then, I was mesmerized by Dragon Age Origins and DA2 was like some slap in the face.
I wish I could go back then and slap myself to be more polite and respectful ![]()
But one thing I like about BSN is the chaos - it wouldn't be BSN if It weren't chaotic (despite joining in 2015, like a lame person... Lol)
Chaos. Chaos never changes.But one thing I like about BSN is the chaos - it wouldn't be BSN if It weren't chaotic (despite joining in 2015, like a lame person... Lol)
I deleted my original account when they deleted off-topic, but maybe you're too new to remember that this forum used to have a 'delete account' button. =P
I only came back to tell the special snowflakes who thought deleting off-topic was a good idea that they're wrong.
It's an endless struggle.
Well, having a VERY speeschul snowflake trying to tell others THEY are snowflakes MIGHT be construed as a struggle.... I can totally understand that yes...
But lets not be trolls and start boring flames in this calm and cool, but warm and fuzzy thread about how people don't flame and troll here! ![]()
And yes, BSN, both old and new have mostly been better than many other communities... But then a BIG part of it is that there's NO COMPETITIVE PvP IN THEIR GAMES, which ofc tend to lure away the worst rumphelmets... As well as avoiding toxic topics, since no one gets ganked and behindpained, albeit some still gets a tad sore in their rumps because of lore... Scholarly rage indeedy!
DAMNIT, I'm so curious!!! I want to see all the old juicy toxic drama you refer to! I want to see the archives!
You really didn't miss anything. It was mostly just people declaring that DA2 was the Worst Game Ever. (Or that ME3 was, but I don't usually visit that half of the forums.) People still make the same arguments around here today, just not so many people and not with so much vitriol.
Most of the worst stuff - threats against the devs and things like that - isn't archived anywhere because it got deleted pretty much right away.
I've been a member of Bioware's forums (original forums and then BSN) since 2004 right after the release of KotOR and I have to say that the worst I've ever seen this forum was right after the release of Mass Effect 3. Seemed like you couldn't even say you liked anything about that game without someone jumping down throat about it. I could have said something as simple as Sur'kesh is pretty and someone would find fault with it. These forums are much better now. Occasionally you get trolling and rudeness, but it's pretty rare.
I haven't been a member for very long but I did lurk for a few months on and off before I become one; and I've got to admit from what I've seen BSN isn't that bad. It's actually pretty good by Internet standards.
Though all the time I've spent here is after DAI had been out for a while so closer to release dates it might be wilder.
It usually is somewhat "wilder", though DAI's reception was rather good. Not that this is difficult compared to what came before. This place was most toxic after ME3's release. I recall being compared to a certain German dictator of the 20th century - repeatedly and by different people - because I liked ME3's Synthesis ending (the outcome, not how it came about). Meanwhile, I was called an ignorant jackass (in several different ways) - repeatedly and by different people - because I found several aspects of ME3's ending abysmal, stupid and full of thematic and narrative inconsistencies.
It seems to me incredibly clear as to what happened here which was basically a bunch of people who felt overwhelmed and their self-esteem impinged by kind of the Bioware-verse with all their kind of less passive sorts of video-game characters and all that turned into kind of terrible people for a long time and harrassed the company and it's developers and all that, lots of bad things.
But ultimately, all these people and the developers/fans seem to have gotten used to each other, the harrassers and the fans/developers through the carnage learning to better understand each other and accept each other for what they are and all that.
Consequently, it's serving as an example of the process of collision and understanding/harmony that results afterwards. That isn't to say bad things can't or won't happen ever, but it seems very clear that substantial progress was made on a number of fronts.
Nowadays people can enjoy at least some measure of alternative things in relative open-ness, a consequence of "mainstream" societal elements acknowledging their failings and weaknesses due to the influence of alternative elements.
So here is a cake for everyone

And as I said, I'm not saying "bad things have gone away forever," but clearly as a consequence of these experiments certain things are now better.
The BSN as of today is not so bad, that's true. Especially not compared to four-three years ago, post ME3-ending.
I've been a member since 2012 (though I haven't posted much), but a reader of them since early 2010, before and after the release of ME2.
The worst i've seen on the BSN is the period between the release of the Extended Cut in 2012, and the release of the Citadel DLC in 2013. That was a dark time for this place, and the community quickly fell down to petty infighting over ME3 and the ending in particular. It was bad before the extended cut too, but after that the conflict regarding ME3's ending grew, since before EC, many were united for a better ending, but after people starting having volatile arguments over Bioware, EA, ME3 as a whole, and attacked people that liked aspects of ME3, or declared it their favorite game. That happened before EC too, but it became even more noticeable once fans who were disappointed with the EC started rioting.
Things were a little intense after the release of Inquisition too, but not in any way near as bad as after ME3. Many people have defended Inquisition, while also pointing out both the positive and negative aspects of the game, which is a much better reception than ME3 received from this community.
However, I think that people calmed a little down after the release of the Citadel DLC, since that gave many fans just what they wanted. Not everyone was pleased, but it helped people get some closure with their squadmates, LI's, and Shepard.
Thankfully, that time has long since passed, and the BSN of today is a relatively stable place, with the occasionally trolling attempts, as well as the repetitive threads about DAI's exploration.
And because of that, the forums are a lot more pleasant to read.