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[Sartoz]

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The just published FY16 EA results is always followed by a conference call to investors. Here is what Wilson, the CEO of EA had to say, according to: PlayStationLifestyle,

 

"Wilson said that EA would work to produce macro-monetization opportunities (things like DLC, maps, and other large-scale content) for the game. That won't surprise anybody. However, there will likely be "micro-monetization opportunities" in the game where EA will make cash from "smaller increments in gameplay". Wilson went on to say how elements of gameplay will be introduced "that allow gamers to engage and drive and extend and enhance their experience much the way people will do with FIFA Ultimate Team or Madden Ultimate Team today".

 

This sucks, if I interpret the above correctly.

 

Will Multiplayer have co-op play? If so, will it be boring compared to the "paid" opportunities? You want maps? Pay !

 

We know the SP campaign will have DLCs but the "smaller increments" too?

 

This double sucks.

[SolNebula]

To be fair the article mentioned Battlefield 1 and not ME:A. There isn't a single mention of ME:A in that article.

 

Furthermore BW knows very well the hardcore fans are here for the SP experience and consider MP a bonus and as such they won't charge for MP maps because only a minority would purchase those. Not sure how "smaller increments" can translate into the SP experience but we will see. I'm generally favorable to more SP DLCs provided they aren't D1 ones.

 

DA:I wasn't bad for DLCs. Certainly BW DLCs aren't as good as those offered by CDPR in terms of quality X $ (meaning BW dlcs are good but tad expensive for what you get) but that's because of EA.

 

We will see ultimately.

[The Elder King]

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The just published FY16 EA results is always followed by a conference call to investors. Here is what Wilson, the CEO of EA had to say, according to: PlayStationLifestyle,

 

"Wilson said that EA would work to produce macro-monetization opportunities (things like DLC, maps, and other large-scale content) for the game. That won't surprise anybody. However, there will likely be "micro-monetization opportunities" in the game where EA will make cash from "smaller increments in gameplay". Wilson went on to say how elements of gameplay will be introduced "that allow gamers to engage and drive and extend and enhance their experience much the way people will do with FIFA Ultimate Team or Madden Ultimate Team today".

 

This sucks, if I interpret the above correctly.

 

Will Multiplayer have co-op play? If so, will it be boring compared to the "paid" opportunities? You want maps? Pay !

 

We know the SP campaign will have DLCs but the "smaller increments" too?

 

This double sucks.

ME3 MP (and I think DAI MP as well) already had micromonetizations systems. You can buy packs of stuff with real currency, as far as I recall. So they already had that covered. I guess they could go and make customers pay for adding maps or weapons to the MP. They didn't do that in ME3, and I think it'd be a bad move, but I can see it happening.

I doubt the SP will be affected more then the dlcs we already have. 

[Guanxii]

Same old same old... just a continuation of what we saw with ME3MP. I wouldn't expect radical changes as the existing system works. RNG-pack mechanics are here to stay looking at the success of Fifa. So long as it doesn't start creeping into single-player I'm al for it.

 

Paid maps will never work unless they force everyone to buy the map pack updates to continue playing which for me would be preferable to having a fractured user-base under the assumption that paid maps are better than what they could provide for free, the prices are reasonable and covered by a season pass which following Bethesda's model would be hopefully no more than $25 for early adopters.

 

[Iakus]

Microtransactions, in multiplayer?

 

I am shocked!  SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!!

[Sartoz]

To be fair the article mentioned Battlefield 1 and not ME:A. There isn't a single mention of ME:A in that article.

 

Furthermore BW knows very well the hardcore fans are here for the SP experience and consider MP a bonus and as such they won't charge for MP maps because only a minority would purchase those. Not sure how "smaller increments" can translate into the SP experience but we will see. I'm generally favorable to more SP DLCs provided they aren't D1 ones.

 

DA:I wasn't bad for DLCs. Certainly BW DLCs aren't as good as those offered by CDPR in terms of quality X $ (meaning BW dlcs are good but tad expensive for what you get) but that's because of EA.

 

We will see ultimately.

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I'm translating the "micro-monetization opportunites" to spread like a virus to all future EA games. This is what EA is all about... increasing revenue year over year to satisfy their investors.

[Just Here For Popcorns]

One moment while I try to fake my 'shocked face' over how things -coughs- tend to -coughs- work with you know -coughs- who.

[SolNebula]

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I'm translating the "micro-monetization opportunites" to spread like a virus to all future EA games. This is what EA is all about... increasing revenue year over year to satisfy their investors.

 

I see and it's a fair concern given EA reputation however in MP we already have microtransactions in terms of a RNG store.

The important thing is that those things stay away from the SP experience which is the reason many of us are still here.

[The Elder King]

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I'm translating the "micro-monetization opportunites" to spread like a virus to all future EA games. This is what EA is all about... increasing revenue year over year to satisfy their investors.

ME3 already had those though, and it didn't affect the MP, or the SP. They might be talking to other games.

[Sartoz]

ME3 MP (and I think DAI MP as well) already had micromonetizations systems. You can buy packs of stuff with real currency, as far as I recall. So they already had that covered. I guess they could go and make customers pay for adding maps or weapons to the MP. They didn't do that in ME3, and I think it'd be a bad move, but I can see it happening.

I doubt the SP will be affected more then the dlcs we already have. 

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I was thinking of that leaked info where you jump from SP to Horde mode in MP to get better weapons/gear. DLC's and maps are macro and you are right, they already exists. Wilson is talking about new opportunities... the micro. These smaller payments may be as silly as paying for custom armour or bad  paying for better weapons. Co-op won't matter, I think,  but PvP will.

[The Elder King]

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I was thinking of that leaked info where you jump from SP to Horde mode in MP to get better weapons/gear. DLC's and maps are macro and you are right, they already exists. Wilson is talking about new opportunities... the micro. These smaller payments may be as silly as paying for custom armour or bad  paying for better weapons. Co-op won't matter, I think,  but PvP will.

I think we should take the SP-MP interaction with a bit of grain of salt. It wasn't totally clear what they wanted to do from the leak.

Also, we have no info on a PvP mode in MEA, and I honestly doubt it'll be present.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I'm still maintaining my theory that this will be a mmo until proven otherwise.

[The Elder King]

I'm still maintaining my theory that this will be a mmo until proven otherwise.

They'd have already said if it was.

[AresKeith]

I think we should take the SP-MP interaction with a bit of grain of salt. It wasn't totally clear what they wanted to do from the leak.

Also, we have no info on a PvP mode in MEA, and I honestly doubt it'll be present.

 

For all we know the SP-MP interaction will be on the same level as DAI, which was handled well imo

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Here's my prediction:

 

This refers to a game mode that will combine the pack transactions from ME 3, the customization microtransactions from several of their franchises, and semi-competitive co-op mode based around small modular "factions." The player will buy packs similar to those in UFC 2, which will randomize multi-tiered bonuses to the player's "Faction" that will affect both cosmetics and gameplay, and contain a "leaderboard" against which the players will compete with each other individually, and the factions will compete against each other in small groups.

 

Purchasing more "packs" will increase the odds of success and one's rank on those leaderboards. The mode will be playable without spending any money, but the hours required to reach the leaderboard will be prohibitive without spending money on packs.

 

The game will contain a traditional SP mode and an MP mode that will reflect how ME 3 worked. Both will be largely self-contained. The SP campaign will be largely incomplete without purchasing at least two future DLC releases. The MP "Horde Mode" will only offer advanced manifest acquisition with microtransactions, but will probably make all DLC content free.

 

I'm curious what will happen when I check back on this post in Summer of 2017.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

They'd have already said if it was.

You may be taking my comment more seriously than intended.

[AlanC9]

Furthermore BW knows very well the hardcore fans are here for the SP experience and consider MP a bonus and as such they won't charge for MP maps because only a minority would purchase those.

I don't think the conclusion follows, unless you mean that MP maps wouldn't make enough money off of the MP fans to justify their creation. A more convincing argument is that they shouldn't fragment the player base. Buying gear/perks/etc. doesn't do that because you can still play -- you'll just suck.

[AlanC9]

You may be taking my comment more seriously than intended.

That's a hard strategy to pull off on this board, since so many really nutty positions here are sincerely believed.

[wolfsite]

Unfortunately the video gaming community has proven that Microtransactions work and are highly effective at generating revenue.  Activision does it, 2K does it, Ubisoft does it, pretty much every mobile developer does it, Konami does it, Microsoft does it.  So it's a bit unfair to single out EA when other companies do the same thing. 

 

Fun fact: Valve was the first company to feature microtransactions in a retail game.

 

Hell look at this video from Microsoft for Halo 5

 

 

They even have someone come to complain about Microtransactions and they tell that person to shut up and treat people that don't pay for things as stupid.

[AlanC9]

Is that Nick Offerman?

[Big Bad]

ME3MP had microtransactions, and it was still extremely fun. 

[SolNebula]

Maybe I'm getting older and even though I have a good disposable income I find increasingly harder to accept those microtransactions schemes. I get this unpleasant feeling gaming companies think we are idiotic cows to be milked for every dime and penny.

I generally don't whine too much about prices and can pay as much is required for a company to deliver a quality product.....what irks me though in the gaming industry is this dime&penny mentality where they keep asking for small amount of money for worthless things. The aim of this mentality is to milk the most they can with the minimum effort. I despise this because it tells me that they think we customers are idiots.

Since I beg to differ on this I realize I'm increasingly frustrated by this behaviour from most gaming companies. CDPR and Obsidian are still keeping alive my trust towards this industry but otherwise I would have probably quitted gaming altogether even if it would have pained me a great deal. Still I realized I'm buying less and less thinking multiple times before committing my hard earned cash to a gaming product. We'll see how things will evolve in the future.

[fizzypop]

well I don't care about MP so if that's all for MP w/e. My only concern is if the smaller monetization affects SP. I seriously don't want this to be like TS3 where they bug you in game to buy their shitty packs of items or clothes. Keep that **** out of SP I don't care. We already know we will get DLC in the form of missions/story and probably armors. I can live with that.

[AlanC9]

I generally don't whine too much about prices and can pay as much is required for a company to deliver a quality product.....what irks me though in the gaming industry is this dime&penny mentality where they keep asking for small amount of money for worthless things. The aim of this mentality is to milk the most they can with the minimum effort. I despise this because it tells me that they think we customers are idiots.

Since I beg to differ on this I realize I'm increasingly frustrated by this behaviour from most gaming companies. CDPR and Obsidian are still keeping alive my trust towards this industry but otherwise I would have probably quitted gaming altogether even if it would have pained me a great deal. Still I realized I'm buying less and less thinking multiple times before committing my hard earned cash to a gaming product. We'll see how things will evolve in the future.

I don't see where the problem comes in. Let's assume you're right and idiots are paying for worthless stuff. You're not. How is Bio taking money from the idiots a problem for you?

And isn't this awfully patronizing to your fellow players?

[Dubozz]

What a wonderful news!