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Monica21

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Yeah, why so much hate for this character ?


He's a boring character. He has a boring loyalty mission. He keeps saluting Shepard even though neither of us is in the military. And he tells Tali to say hi the ship AI. I can't punch him or even reprimand him for that, so I guess I have to let him die.

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He's a boring character. He has a boring loyalty mission. He keeps saluting Shepard even though neither of us is in the military. And he tells Tali to say hi the ship AI. I can't punch him or even reprimand him for that, so I guess I have to let him die.

That was actually quite funny.

One of the stupid things about him was his motivation for joining Cerberus:
Paraphrasing here, "I joined Cerberus because they get things done and the Alliance do nothing." And the reason why the Alliance "didn't do anything" is because of the volatile political situation in the Terminus (not that they put any effort in thinking up new Terminus system aliens).

But until that point, Cerberus do nothing at all. They've done terrible experiments which have all gone wrong and killed the personnel (Oh, wait that was just a "rogue cell") and tortured a captured Alliance soldier for 10 years to make a bio-weapon (Oops, silly me! That was another "rogue cell").

Meanwhile, the Alliance have brought Humanity onto the galactic stage, fended off the Skyllian Blitz, held a huge military offensive on Torfan, and blew up a reaper that was about to bring in more reapers. I think Jacob was just jealous because while Shepard was fighting geth armies and the rest were fighting space-piracy, he was delivering packages to secret Alliance dudes in a spaceship for 10 years.

And that also links to your point that he's boring. He's just there to make up the third party member (quite like Kaidan, but at least they gave him a backstory and character devolopment - sort of. Maybe.)

Though I actually quite liked his loyalty mission, when the enemies weren't surviving direct headshots from a sniper rifle somehow.

Edit: Oh dear, that turned into a rant.
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That was actually quite funny.


Perhaps a rare moment of levity from the galaxy's most boring gun for hire? I guess by that point I'm so irritated by him that it comes off as snotty. And irritating. And I'm not even a huge Tali fan.

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Perhaps a rare moment of levity from the galaxy's most boring gun for hire? I guess by that point I'm so irritated by him that it comes off as snotty. And irritating. And I'm not even a huge Tali fan.


I like the way he says about not trusting Thane because he's an assassin. Says the guy who works for 'Unethical Research and Terrorism Ltd.'
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He's a boring character. He has a boring loyalty mission. He keeps saluting Shepard even though neither of us is in the military. And he tells Tali to say hi the ship AI. I can't punch him or even reprimand him for that, so I guess I have to let him die.

He's the normal guy, the only one who start a family among the main characters of the trilogy. So indeed boring, I guess, but also necessary, because without normality no real weirdness either. I can imagine easily why people would "hate" Morinth or Zaeed, but obviously we don't use all the same criteria for that.

 

I quite liked his loyalty mission. It's clearly not the best, but I don't find it really inferior to Miranda's or Garrus'. 



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He's a boring character. He has a boring loyalty mission. He keeps saluting Shepard even though neither of us is in the military. And he tells Tali to say hi the ship AI. I can't punch him or even reprimand him for that, so I guess I have to let him die.

 

 

I actually kinda love that moment when he tells Tali to say hi to the ship's AI. I almost wish that Shepard could've said it herself XD. Perhaps I just really enjoy when characters troll other characters. 


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Yeah, why so much hate for this character ?


Everyone else has a thing. Jacob doesn't have a thing. In fact he doesn't have anything. I often forget he's even on the ship and when I do remember I wish I didn't. We already had Mirandurr on board and Jacob didn't even seem to like Cerberus all that much.


Its almost as if they said to themselves one day and I say this as a darker person: Not sure we have enough squad mates to compliment everyone's play style after watering down the skill trees......what if we put a black guy in it?
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Everyone else has a thing. Jacob doesn't have a thing.


Grunt didn't have a thing. He was just there to say "Rah! I am a Krogan!"

In fact the only thing good thing about Grunt was that he gave us a chance to go to Tuchanka, meet the much more interesting Wrex, kill a Threshew Maw on foot (despite the fact that I'd already killed hundreds of the bloody things already in ME1 with a pistol) and give me the chance to laugh at the tribal savages from behind my television screen.
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Grunt didn't have a thing. He was just there to say "Rah! I am a Krogan!"

In fact the only thing good thing about Grunt was that he gave us a chance to go to Tuchanka, meet the much more interesting Wrex, kill a Threshew Maw on foot (despite the fact that I'd already killed hundreds of the bloody things already in ME1 with a pistol) and give me the chance to laugh at the tribal savages from behind my television screen.



Grunts thing is that he's a 1 week old fully grown Super Krogan.

A Super. Krogan.

In every sense of the word.

Right down to him needing to kill a Thresher Maw on foot before he could feel challenged enough to justify his own existence.

Beyond that, being 1 week old, he's struggling to understand what a genetically engineered super soldier even needs to exist for. He wants to know why he was created and its not until he understands what it is to be a Krogan that he can answer that question.


He's also a Krogan frat boy. :D


Jacob is some kind of weird human beige where nothing really matters.


Jacob is a guy who's cool with everything. Coz everything's cool. Regular soldier. Pilot. Low ranking. Nothing special. Nothing below average. No complaints. No problems. No issues. Nothing nice to say. Nothing funny.

Just weird human beige.

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Grunt didn't have a thing. He was just there to say "Rah! I am a Krogan!"

In fact the only thing good thing about Grunt was that he gave us a chance to go to Tuchanka, meet the much more interesting Wrex, kill a Threshew Maw on foot (despite the fact that I'd already killed hundreds of the bloody things already in ME1 with a pistol) and give me the chance to laugh at the tribal savages from behind my television screen.

 

For supposedly being the ultimate Krogan, Grunt is just the stereotypical Krogan.

 

Grunt's best line, "I was built for strength but didn't earn it," hinted at what Grunt could have been, only for him to revert to "Rah! I am Krogan!" as you put it.

 

Grunt is such a waste of a squadmate slot. 


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Poor dead Jacob. The only casualty.

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For supposedly being the ultimate Krogan, Grunt is just the stereotypical Krogan.
 
Grunt's best line, "I was built for strength but didn't earn it," hinted at what Grunt could have been, only for him to revert to "Rah! I am Krogan!" as you put it.
 
Grunt is such a waste of a squadmate slot.


I've actually always been more interested in the Krogan you talk to before you get to the lab. The, "I am not perfect, but I have purpose" line always gets me.
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I'm also plotting his death for my current playthrough. I'm just going to not do his loyalty mission (it doesn't really have any standout moments anyway) and send him as the escort during the SM.

This has the added bonus of not having to have even less conversations with him. I've avoided every optional chat with him, other than to ask him about armor upgrades.