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PS we aren't 'crazed' when we are in a manic phase. We are ill. It's that type of terminology being assigned to us which makes it all worse!


My apologies. Poor choice of words. It was late and I was exhausted and didn't stop to think it might need better phrasing. It wasn't a conscious slight.
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So he's bipolar, huh? And has sporadic episodes when he breaks down?

Well, half the people I know are like that. Seems to me the good fella just heard some bad news of some sort, got really upset and decided to pull an Elsa. He left home without a phone or money and just let it all go.

 

Johnny/Greg is always posting self help tweets. I thought that was a bit odd and stopped following him on Twitter because some of the stuff had simply no connection at all - it was one random tweet after another. And his fans just fuelled this odd behavior by replying them with vague messages like 'No day is like another, so make every day count!' or 'Make the best you can with life!'. You know, stuff that makes no sense and that doesn't really add to anything.

 

That weird interaction really creeped me out, so I just clicked Unfollow. Good he's back at home, with his family. he adores his sons from the way he always posts about them. He has a really loving family. They're the people that care about him. Not random strangers who crave his attention online every 5 minutes.


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It's good to know he is safe.



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So he's bipolar, huh? And has sporadic episodes when he breaks down?
Well, half the people I know are like that. Seems to me the good fella just heard some bad news of some sort, got really upset and decided to pull an Elsa. He left home without a phone or money and just let it all go.

Johnny/Greg is always posting self help tweets. I thought that was a bit odd and stopped following him on Twitter because some of the stuff had simply no connection at all - it was one random tweet after another. And his fans just fuelled this odd behavior by replying them with vague messages like 'No day is like another, so make every day count!' or 'Make the best you can with life!'. You know, stuff that makes no sense and that doesn't really add to anything.

That weird interaction really creeped me out, so I just clicked Unfollow. Good he's back at home, with his family. he adores his sons from the way he always posts about them. He has a really loving family. They're the people that care about him. Not random strangers who crave his attention online every 5 minutes.


Ugh. You sound like the "why do people like Cullen?" trolls of yesteryear. And you speak as if you know better than the fans themselves why Greg/Jonny matters to them. So he isn't to your liking, more power to you for knowing what you like and don't. Not understanding something doesn't give you license to make empirical statements demeaning other people. No one here has forgotten they're not a personal friend of his or family. It doesn't mean it's impossible for them to actually care.
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I'm glad he is alright and with his family again.



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Good to hear hes been found... Thanks for the info :)



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I'm glad that he's back home and safe, but seriously guys, let's not do this:

 

So he's bipolar, huh? And has sporadic episodes when he breaks down?

Well, half the people I know are like that. Seems to me the good fella just heard some bad news of some sort, got really upset and decided to pull an Elsa. He left home without a phone or money and just let it all go.

 

Johnny/Greg is always posting self help tweets. I thought that was a bit odd and stopped following him on Twitter because some of the stuff had simply no connection at all - it was one random tweet after another. And his fans just fuelled this odd behavior by replying them with vague messages like 'No day is like another, so make every day count!' or 'Make the best you can with life!'. You know, stuff that makes no sense and that doesn't really add to anything.

 

That weird interaction really creeped me out, so I just clicked Unfollow. Good he's back at home, with his family. he adores his sons from the way he always posts about them. He has a really loving family. They're the people that care about him. Not random strangers who crave his attention online every 5 minutes.

 

Bipolar disorder is far more complex that that. You're basically comparing being nervous for an exam to a panic disorder. If mental illnesses were logical and so easy to handle then there would be no need for massive research into them. Bipolar Disorder at times makes you afraid of your own brain. Here is a good thread about it. My own brain's work ethic is so neurotic it has a Skillcape. Brains don't make sense.

 

But, I didn't mind those tweets myself. Some people do not social media well and that's fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

You can care about a person even if you're a stranger to them, but you listed up two extremes there. There is a sane group of people between "his family" and "fanatic obnoxious fans". I only tweeted Jonny a handful of times, but yet I still took the time to make that post. (and it was partly because Twitter's UX is questionable)

 

 

Ugh. You sound like the "why do people like Cullen?" trolls of yesteryear. And you speak as if you know better than the fans themselves why Greg/Jonny matters to them. So he isn't to your liking, more power to you for knowing what you like and don't. Not understanding something doesn't give you license to make empirical statements demeaning other people. No one here has forgotten they're not a personal friend of his or family. It doesn't mean it's impossible for them to actually care.

 

This.

 

You don't have to like the guy, but at least show some humanity. "I'm glad he's okay and back with his family" suffices, no need to go on a rant and explain how much you don't like the dude because verbiage.

 

I honest to god can't stand Gene Simmons, but if he would have went missing because of a manic episode, I would be able to put his douchebaggery behind me and offer a helping hand.


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So he's bipolar, huh? And has sporadic episodes when he breaks down?

Well, half the people I know are like that. Seems to me the good fella just heard some bad news of some sort, got really upset and decided to pull an Elsa. He left home without a phone or money and just let it all go.

 

Johnny/Greg is always posting self help tweets. I thought that was a bit odd and stopped following him on Twitter because some of the stuff had simply no connection at all - it was one random tweet after another. And his fans just fuelled this odd behavior by replying them with vague messages like 'No day is like another, so make every day count!' or 'Make the best you can with life!'. You know, stuff that makes no sense and that doesn't really add to anything.

 

That weird interaction really creeped me out, so I just clicked Unfollow. Good he's back at home, with his family. he adores his sons from the way he always posts about them. He has a really loving family. They're the people that care about him. Not random strangers who crave his attention online every 5 minutes.

Makes as much sense as "Red Bull and Meth tonight" when the person posting it does not drink caffeine or any energy drinks and, does not do any drugs because of his religion. I understand that just as well as I understand Jonny/Greg and my other mates that sound random but, you just have to think a bit to understand and, not always take what they post or say literally. (FYI the one I quoted meat it was a good night to be super happy and full of energy because some great things happened that day.)

 

Self help posts are meant to uplift and encourage others and, making others feel good makes you feel good if you're a decent person. It's a smile, that little bit of encouragement, the confirmation that we are okay and, that we can be better people. Sometimes it's also a veiled request for the same in return and if it isn't, taking it as such and replying with something positive, uplifting or, something that will make them smile never hurts.

 

As for a fan, yeah I am one but, not the sort that goes all googly eyes mushy over a celeb. I admire his work but, he could also be a friend if we have the chance to meet and get acquainted. I grew up in that world, parents managed a SoCal resort that catered to elite clientele, so some of the people we call celebs now were my childhood playmates, some are still fiends as are their parents and, now their children too.

 

Behind the characters they play, the wealth, glitz and glamor are real human beings, no different that you and I. Same problems, worries hope dreams, goals and struggles the rest of us face only in Hollywood, you are supposed to make it all look easy, glamorous, as if it's a breeze to deal with and barely phases you at all - even if it rips your world apart. You need some not so famous down to earth friends that don't leak. I hope Jonny has those friends, makes life a bit easier in that fishbowl he lives in.


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He has a really loving family. They're the people that care about him. Not random strangers who crave his attention online every 5 minutes.

 

I've never interacted with him online and don't even particularly care about Cullen, but that doesn't mean I'm not genuinely relieved he's safe. Partly because I wish everyone involved with Dragon Age all the best because they've contributed to many hours of happiness for me, and partly because I'd feel for any human being in those circumstances.

 

Also, you may have noticed that many people in the thread empathize because we have mental illnesses ourselves and can imagine ending up in a similar situation all too easily.


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I've never interacted with him online and don't even particularly care about Cullen, but that doesn't mean I'm not genuinely relieved he's safe. Partly because I wish everyone involved with Dragon Age all the best because they've contributed to many hours of happiness for me, and partly because I'd feel for any human being in those circumstances.

 

Also, you may have noticed that many people in the thread empathize because we have mental illnesses ourselves and can imagine ending up in a similar situation all too easily.

Or have been in a similar situation. I did my time homeless because I refuse professional help but, I figured out what works for me without meds an shrinks and such and, today unless I tell someone that didn't know me 15 years ago or more, they have no clue I am bipolar. I know when my proverbial roller coaster is going up or down, and have learned to basically out think it and act "normal" despite my instincts and desires to do otherwise.

 

Same deal, one day I just decided to walk away and leave everything behind, thought I was invincible and could make a better life if i just left ALL of my old one behind. Didn't work out so well but hey, I survived and learned a lot in the process. Just I stayed out there for two years, off grid, under the radar. Funny thing is, it was my Hollywood friends that finally found me and kicked some sense and self awareness into my head. (figuratively speaking of course.) From under an overpass with a single blanket to a Beverly Hills mansion overnight - that will rock your world.


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To say that i had enough of his so called insight about what he thinks of people who admire a celeb , is an understatement. I don't have any illness ( so far as i know, but who knows?) but let me tell you that the desire to just disappear for a while I feel it too from time to time. let's say that i work and I have to care for my parents who need money and sometimes i am so overwhelmed with the fact that i can't do enough and thinking about their well being makes me leave my wishes and needs aside ... well in that moment I just want to walk away without anything and any mean to be contacted. Then i stay and think about how much they would be upset, my family, my friends, my boyfriend ... and i carry on. As for craving attention from a celebrity? LOL . i don't even read gossip or trash newspapers because I am not interested. About a celebrity I want to hear what new job he/she got, what new movie, song or book they have and that's it. 

In my life I've met only two actors I cherish the most and trust me I didn't go and yelled their "scene" names. i was polite and had questions about their future projects and that's it ... after I found my tongue again, of course.

As for Greg/Jonny? I love Cullen, of course; but I never thought of Greg in real life as Cullen. Greg is a human being with his own problems as all of us. The fact that he was capable to make us love a fictional character who doesn't even exists in real life shows his talent; because i think that being a voice actor requires even more talent than being on screen. On screen they can express the feelings with facial expressions, in a game is DA they have to work with their voice and control it in a way that you can feel something. 

So please, I had enough.


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I'm glad he was found .

Hope he gets proper medical care and support .



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So he's bipolar, huh? And has sporadic episodes when he breaks down?
Well, half the people I know are like that. Seems to me the good fella just heard some bad news of some sort, got really upset and decided to pull an Elsa. He left home without a phone or money and just let it all go.
 
Johnny/Greg is always posting self help tweets. I thought that was a bit odd and stopped following him on Twitter because some of the stuff had simply no connection at all - it was one random tweet after another. And his fans just fuelled this odd behavior by replying them with vague messages like 'No day is like another, so make every day count!' or 'Make the best you can with life!'. You know, stuff that makes no sense and that doesn't really add to anything.
 
That weird interaction really creeped me out, so I just clicked Unfollow. Good he's back at home, with his family. he adores his sons from the way he always posts about them. He has a really loving family. They're the people that care about him. Not random strangers who crave his attention online every 5 minutes.


Ugh. People like you get on my nerves. Honestly. Arrogance and ignorance is unattractive. Grow up
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Huge relief... I'm glad he's home safe.



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My apologies. Poor choice of words. It was late and I was exhausted and didn't stop to think it might need better phrasing. It wasn't a conscious slight.

Actually I do get kinda crazed in manic mode. So the word suited me fine. I'm always Ill. It's part of having the illness. When I'm down in depressed when I'm manic watch out y'all I'm a crazed don't know where to start ocd cleaning and organizing chic.
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I think there are a lot of people who don't understand that think being bipolar means short bursts of mania then short bouts of depression. No, it's more like a roller coaster with long, sweeping hills that take months or even years to get up or down and, have plateaus of varrying lengths at the tops and bottoms, and sometimes in the middle of those hills.

 

Most of the time we are nether 100% up or 100% down but, we are tending to be more one than the other 99% of the time - those level middle spots are few and far between. At our lowest we have no energy, no interest in anything and pretty well stumble along in a fog bank, some even contemplate or attempt suicide then, maybe for months or years on end. At our highest we can get pretty out there, spending sprees, even if we don't have the money, playing the daredevil, totally cleaning and revamping our homes, not sleeping much life of the party only the party lasts months or years. Sometimes we hi steep hills and can go for highest to lowest in the space of a day or two.

 

it isn't like when a "normal" person is upset because a loved one died, that has a logical reason for them to be down. We need no reason, life can be perfect, we can have everything and everyone we need or want in our lives and, our brains still send us into a depression, for no reason. Same for mania, everything could be terrible and wrong and yet, we can be feeling beyond on top of the world.

 

Learning to manage those feelings and, not allow them to dictate our actions and words is a life long struggle. it isn't easy and, we can't "just get over it." We don't choose to be depressed or manic, we have no control over that, happens no matter what else is going on in our lives and, no matter what we do. Were we win is when we learn to put both ends and the middle to productive and/or self healing use. A few I know, my self included, have chosen to learn to do so without medication or therapy - a lot of self education, trial and error and, inventing coping strategies that work for us even if no one else thinks they will work. Some need a bit of help form meds and/or therapy and, there should be no shame in either, it's a personal choice and, finding what works for each individual.

 

If Jonny is indeed bipolar, I respect whatever choice he makes and, only hope that he finds his own way to be okay.


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Did not know about this as it happened but its good he was found. I have no comments about mental illnesses that he may or may not be struggling with but hopefully he can overcome things in his life that are causing him distress and live feeling happy.


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Did not know about this as it happened but its good he was found. I have no comments about mental illnesses that he may or may not be struggling with but hopefully he can overcome things in his life that are causing him distress and live feeling happy.

 

What Yumakooma said. I don't know Jonny/Greg personally, I don't know the situation, I do know that things can get blown out of proportion in life and the media and I have no desire to make Jonny/Greg the poster boy for bipolar disorder. Things happen, life screws up, I just hope he has some good friends he can talk to and that he doesn't suffer any set backs or embarrassments from this fiasco. If I were in his inner circle I'd be one of the first shoulders he could lean on but I'm not and I'm not deluded enough to think I would even qualify. I pass no judgement, I'm just relieved he was located and is ok.  


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Actually I do get kinda crazed in manic mode. So the word suited me fine. I'm always Ill. It's part of having the illness. When I'm down in depressed when I'm manic watch out y'all I'm a crazed don't know where to start ocd cleaning and organizing chic.

 

I didn't mind the word choice either, I go through similar bouts of manic and depressive phases due to a combination of Aspergers and Avoidant Personality Disorder. It's not as severe as those who are bipolar, but "crazed" does pretty much sum up how I feel whenever I get into a state where I don't need to sleep, have a huge burst of creativity and desire to engage with both people and in activity. Especially compared to other times that leave me feeling as if I'm jet-lagged, apathetic and cause me to become slightly reclusive.


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He's posted a statement via Twitter. Note that he strongly denies having bipolar disorder.

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I didn't mind the word choice either, I go through similar bouts of manic and depressive phases due to a combination of Aspergers and Avoidant Personality Disorder. It's not as severe as those who are bipolar, but "crazed" does pretty much sum up how I feel whenever I get into a state where I don't need to sleep, have a huge burst of creativity and desire to engage with both people and in activity. Especially compared to other times that leave me feeling as if I'm jet-lagged, apathetic and cause me to become slightly reclusive.

 

The main reason I say "crazed" is because it was used to describe my sister, and also my friend, whenever they had a manic episode. Their doctors would say "They're not crazy. They're not so gone they belong in a ward, but their brains are currently in a state that makes it appear that way." It was stressed as a descriptive of current brain activity, not as a noun or label of their mental capacity. Basically to "ACT LIKE a crazy person" but the key difference was they still retained an ability to reason. Such reasoning often managed to turn inward on them somehow as their brains would torture their thoughts and turn their perspective toward self loathing that could seem depressed or super spontaneous - the "caving in" or "running away" aspect of how they felt about themselves. They weren't crazy because they could reason and empathize, it just always seemed to warp, whereas someone who was actually suffering a full disassociation from reality couldn't reason and didn't truly "get" what cause and effect and consequences were and could only be taught to do things right by rote.

 

So, in my house, "crazed" was an adjective used to describe a temporary state of mind that might somewhat resemble "being crazy". It was never meant as a derogatory term or to belittle my sister's or friend's condition. Basically, they understood their actions and their mindsets were off but couldn't help themselves at times despite knowing they were ill. I wish I could explain it better but, to me, "crazed" was a valid term to indicate my sister's mindset and it was meant to distinguish her from "being crazy". It has been a long time since it was a subject of debate for me and I hadn't considered how times have changed and that maybe the word was no longer accepted in the innocuous capacity in which I learned to use it. It's just a word. There are others that can work just as well so it's no hardship to try and use something more preferable.


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Well I would say that since everything sorted out, a moderator should close this tread . it's better for everyone ?


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^ If it helps, SamaraDraven, I frequently refer to myself as being "crazy" because of my whimsical, quirky and eccentric behaviour from time to time. I know those are perfectly good words to use as well, but it's an easy shorthand that I'm comfortable using, although I can see why some people might not like using that term themselves.

 

He's posted a statement via Twitter. Note that he strongly denies having bipolar disorder.

 

Blimey, that was a very emphatic denial.

 

I can understand him being a little angry, I'd be as well if someone gabbed about personal matters online or spread information that wasn't actually true. But let's not speculate on the reasons for that tweet, GE/JR and his family deserve their privacy and we as fans should respect his wishes, eh?

 

As long as he's safe and well, that's all that matters.


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One last thing before the thread gets closed.

Jonny Rees made a statement and I have to agree with him. Personal matters are personal and for me it never felt right, that someone would openly post on Twitter about the mental illnesses another person supposedly has.
Maybe everyone should stop talking like they personally know him or in fact know what happened the last days.

http://www.whosay.co...egellis/1209540
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One last thing before the thread gets closed.

Jonny Rees made a statement and I have to agree with him. Personal matters are personal and for me it never felt right, that someone would openly post on Twitter about the mental illnesses another person supposedly has.
Maybe everyone should stop talking like they personally know him or in fact know what happened the last days.

http://www.whosay.co...egellis/1209540

 

I'm just gonna unfollow the thread so I no longer receive notifications about it. It's over. Done. Time to disperse. There's nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you're looking for. ;)


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