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I've managed to avoid Trespasser spoilers since release, but now that I'm ready to catch up on much-needed gaming, I wanted to get a few questions out of the way first. I will list them below so it's easier to answer them.

 

1. How long is the main adventure?

2. Does it resolve the Solas subplot completely? (Feel free to elaborate, preferably without revealing too much if possible.)

3. How are the romances handled? Do they tie into the DLC in any way storywise (besides, of course, Solas)?

4. What is your recommended class/race for a first playthrough (if you have one)?

5. What are some things I should know before starting?

 

Normally, I wouldn't post this in the spoilers section, but because of questions #2 and #3 I didn't want to risk it. I'm already aware of the general theme of the DLC and know a couple basic things.

 

Thanks all!



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1. Not sure, a couple of hours? Basically two parts where time spent depends a lot on how much you care about your followers.
2. No, since that (probably) will continue in next DA game. But it straightens out some question marks.
3. Some, depending on who you romanced. Cullen and Sera get special treatment :).
4. That's personal of course, but my canon will most certainly be an elven mage romancing Solas.
5. (Don't want to spoil too much) Be prepared for a great finale to DAI. It's lore-heavy and fun.
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Fiskrens answers your questions pretty well so theres nothing I really need to add


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1. Not sure, a couple of hours? Basically two parts where time spent depends a lot on how much you care about your followers.
2. No, since that (probably) will continue in next DA game. But it straightens out some question marks.
3. Some, depending on who you romanced. Cullen and Sera get special treatment :).
4. That's personal of course, but my canon will most certainly be an elven mage romancing Solas.
5. (Don't want to spoil too much) Be prepared for a great finale to DAI. It's lore-heavy and fun.

 

And I'm still kinda mad about that to. Why are they the only ones ************ especially Sera. Cullen I understand, but Sera!!! It really didn't fit her character at all.

P.S I'm a Cassshipper


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1. Depends on how much time you spend want to spend with you rcolleagues.

2. Kind of but not completely he does comes clean as to who and what he truly is but as for the rest no.

3. the romances do continue but as to how they conclude it depends on who your romancing as @Fiskrens has said Cullen and Sera get quite a sweet finish to theirs. Especially Cullen. 

 

As for your last question I hope your on good terms with Iron Bull and his chargers. :P I don't want to say any more than that.



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Just FYI -- I've seen some people make this mistake -- but sure to talk to ALL of your followers before heading into the Exalted Council. Or, you know, the ones you care about anyway. The game gives you a warning; heed that warning!



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As for your last question I hope your on good terms with Iron Bull and his chargers. :P I don't want to say any more than that.

I lol'd.

 

Should be interesting, then!



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1) About 5-6 hours. Depends on how much time you spend with the inner circle members and exploring places.

 

2) Solas' plot is unfinished and will continue in a future game, but it answers a few questions that'll tie a few loose ends.

 

3) The romances have tie ins, but like others have said, Cullen and Sera get special scenes. 

 

4) No preference on race/class to do a first run of Trespasser.

 

5) Make sure you have good armour and weapons. Some battles are challenging. If you have mages in your party, equip them with dispel to deal with magic based enemies. Other than that, enjoy!


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1. About 5 hours. Longer if you take your time and do all the little distractions.

2. No, it doesn't. It only raises more questions. It also makes him look like a hypocrite and a moron. Prepare for disappointment.

3. I think all the romances tie in, though in different ways depending on who was romanced. I think all the romances have something. But I think Josephine's might be the weakest. If you romanced Solas, prepare for more disappointment and hypocrisy.

4. Class doesn't matter that much. All enemies are easy to beat. Though mage fits the story better. Also, Fade Step will come in handy for the Inquisitor in certain spots where you have to get through flames quickly, or break through enemy lines quickly. As for race, only the human character fits the storyline. The elf conflicts the worst because it forces your character to deny the Dalish religion unless you skip certain dialogue choices.

5. Make a permanent save before you take the mission on the Chore Table. Also make another perma-save as soon as you can at the palace because you will probably want to restart Trespasser and play it the "right way" once you know what to expect. The crappy inventory items you find do nothing. The dog treats should be picked up and placed in the basket next to Cullen. Fix the tilted paintings. There are harlequins that appear all over the palace, sneak up on them and speak in order to catch them and get stuff. When you first leave the palace, go left and get the hidden Halla statue. Explore this area to find extra (short) levels and items with some extra battles. At night go to the far edge at the bottom left of the map to shoot off fireworks and get extra stuff. In the last level, use your party members focus abilities during the mid-level boss fight. All focus is lost in the final battle, so remove the focus moves from the list. The exception is the Inquisitor, who will be able to regain focus quickly for... reasons. Also it would be wise to give the Inquisitor an extra focus ability if you haven't already for the final level. For example, Mark of the Rift and Firestorm.

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Why would you need to replay? Better spoiler-tag the response.

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I've managed to avoid Trespasser spoilers since release, but now that I'm ready to catch up on much-needed gaming, I wanted to get a few questions out of the way first. I will list them below so it's easier to answer them.

 

1. How long is the main adventure?

2. Does it resolve the Solas subplot completely? (Feel free to elaborate, preferably without revealing too much if possible.)

3. How are the romances handled? Do they tie into the DLC in any way storywise (besides, of course, Solas)?

4. What is your recommended class/race for a first playthrough (if you have one)?

5. What are some things I should know before starting?

 

Normally, I wouldn't post this in the spoilers section, but because of questions #2 and #3 I didn't want to risk it. I'm already aware of the general theme of the DLC and know a couple basic things.

 

Thanks all!

1) About as long as any other DLC.  A couple of hours

2) No.  But you do learn what his plans are.  And there is a price for that knowledge..

3) Depends on the romance, and certain other choices you make.  Some end literally with a wedding.  Others with heartbreak.  Most leave it up to your own headcanon.  But generally, I think they were handled well.

4)  Elves may get something extra from the story

5) It picks up two years later, so you get to see some of the longer-term consequences to your choices.



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1. A few hours, depending on how thorough you are and what difficulty. 

2. No, no it does not. 

3. Terribly, other than a couple. 

4. If I had to choose, Elven Mage. 

5. Save before you start it, since you can't go back to the main game after it starts. Also don't expect a happy ending. Apparently Bioware isn't interested in doing those anymore.



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1. 5 - 10 hours

2. No, but it does progress it well.

3. Romances have extra content.

4. Definitely Elf, definitely Solas romance.

5. Nothing, just play - best piece of content Bioware has ever produced.



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5. Nothing, just play - best piece of content Bioware has ever produced.

Surprised to hear you say that, considering your opinions on parts of it. For me, it is one of the worst, and definitely the worst in the DA franchise.


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Surprised to hear you say that, considering your opinions on parts of it. For me, it is one of the worst, and definitely the worst in the DA franchise.

 

 

Huh? What are you talking about? I've always said I love Trespasser and everything about it? 



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Huh? What are you talking about? I've always said I love Trespasser and everything about it? 

I thought you hated how they set up a great premise for Solas and the Inquisitor despite them not going to go anywhere with it since there will be a new PC, even saying you won't get DA4 unless the Inquisitor is the protagonist? 



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I thought you hated how they set up a great premise for Solas and the Inquisitor despite them not going to go anywhere with it since there will be a new PC, even saying you won't get DA4 unless the Inquisitor is the protagonist? 

 

 

We don't know that's the case at all. If I thought the Inquisitor wasn't going to be the protagonist I wouldn't still be here. Everything in Trespasser says the Inquisitor will return, to me. If Bioware doesn't follow through will that, that will be a problem with DA4, not Trespasser. Trespasser set everything up perfectly.



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We don't know that's the case at all. If I thought the Inquisitor wasn't going to be the protagonist I wouldn't still be here. Everything in Trespasser says the Inquisitor will return, to me. If Bioware doesn't follow through will that, that will be a problem with DA4, not Trespasser. Trespasser set everything up perfectly.


I felt this way about Trespasser as well...and then I saw John Epler and Patrick Weekes' GDC talk, about how Trespasser was supposed to "wrap up this protagonist" and now I'm really confused.

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I felt this way about Trespasser as well...and then I saw John Epler and Patrick Weekes' GDC talk, about how Trespasser was supposed to "wrap up this protagonist" and now I'm really confused.

The pattern for Dragon Age has always been "one story, one hero"  Thedas is the recurring element, not a given character.  Thus we will always have a new protagonist for every game.

 

That being said, it's possible the Inquisitor will still return in some capacity, as Hawke did for Inquisition.  But if the Inquisitor is still the protagonist, I will be beyond surprised.


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I felt this way about Trespasser as well...and then I saw John Epler and Patrick Weekes' GDC talk, about how Trespasser was supposed to "wrap up this protagonist" and now I'm really confused.

Them returning and them returning as the primary protagonist are two different things.  I like new PCs and favor an unbalanced dual protagonist situation, but I would be floored if the Inquisitor made no return at all.


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I felt this way about Trespasser as well...and then I saw John Epler and Patrick Weekes' GDC talk, about how Trespasser was supposed to "wrap up this protagonist" and now I'm really confused.

 

Yup, I'm confused about a lot of things.

 

The pattern for Dragon Age has always been "one story, one hero"  Thedas is the recurring element, not a given character.  Thus we will always have a new protagonist for every game.

 

That being said, it's possible the Inquisitor will still return in some capacity, as Hawke did for Inquisition.  But if the Inquisitor is still the protagonist, I will be beyond surprised.

 

 

That was the plan. The plan was also to have the Inquisition plot be twice as long and have the Inquisitor deal with Solas. It was the plan to not have DA2 be a full game. It was the plan to have Hawke deal with parts of the Inquisition plot in a DA2 expansion. Plans change. No matter what Bioware does for DA4, it has changed from their original plan.


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The pattern for Dragon Age has always been "one story, one hero" Thedas is the recurring element, not a given character. Thus we will always have a new protagonist for every game.

That being said, it's possible the Inquisitor will still return in some capacity, as Hawke did for Inquisition. But if the Inquisitor is still the protagonist, I will be beyond surprised.


I'm aware, I've been playing since Origins. The past is a good indicator of the future but it is not a guarantee.

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Them returning and them returning as the primary protagonist are two different things. I like new PCs and favor an unbalanced dual protagonist situation, but I would be floored if the Inquisitor made no return at all.

Very true. Patrick Weekes is aware closure is needed, if his tweets from September are any indication. I'm just confused about the "wrapping up this protagonist" thing because whether the Inquisitor returns as protagonist or not (and I'm almost certain they won't) their story isn't "wrapped up" when there is still closure to be had.

I am choosing to trust.

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That was the plan. The plan was also to have the Inquisition plot be twice as long and have the Inquisitor deal with Solas. It was the plan to not have DA2 be a full game. It was the plan to have Hawke deal with parts of the Inquisition plot in a DA2 expansion. Plans change. No matter what Bioware does for DA4, it has changed from their original plan.

Stuff getting cut from a game is pretty routine.  Two origins got cut from DAO.  Jowan was going to be a companion.  Velanna was going to be bonded to Justice rather than Anders, and it was going to be possible to save Leandra.

 

This is not at the same level.  

 

I'm aware, I've been playing since Origins. The past is a good indicator of the future but it is not a guarantee.

Sure.  But this has happened for three games in a row now.  I think the pattern is pretty set.  And Trespasser very heavily implies that it will continue.



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Stuff getting cut from a game is pretty routine.  Two origins got cut from DAO.  Jowan was going to be a companion.  Velanna was going to be bonded to Justice rather than Anders, and it was going to be possible to save Leandra.

 

This is not at the same level.  

 

Sure.  But this has happened for three games in a row now.  I think the pattern is pretty set.  And Trespasser very heavily implies that it will continue.

 

 

Its exactly the same level. Things get cut, things get added, things get changed. Video game development does not work in a way that allows a static plan to dictate a decade of development. 

 

Bioware might decide to have a new protagonist - maybe they think it will work better, maybe they think it would be better for marketing, maybe EA will tell them they have to, maybe they think it will be a better story. But I would bet everything I own that it won't be because they had a "plan" 8 years ago when they didn't even think Origins would get a sequel.

 

Also, if Trespasser heavily implied the Inquisitor wouldn't return, there wouldn't be numerous people who hate returning protagonists, and didn't want to see the Inquisitor again after the base game, and didn't expect that to ever be a possibility, considering whether they should now return. 


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