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So, Shinobi said a bunch of things about Andromeda at the NeoGAF forums


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Wait, how did we get to it being Liara's fault that Thessia fell and Kai Leng cutscened his way to victory?

Anyway. This Shinobi guy is basically a shill for companies, yet people seem to treat his words like the utterances of a nobel prize winner. Bizarre.

Eh?  I don;t see a lot of evidence that people are hanging on each word.  Don't blame people for being interest in any bit of news about a game that they have essentially told us almost nothing about for a most of it's development.


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I believe that he's legit in the sense that he's in contact with BioWare employees, but I'm not so confident that his "information" is legit. If everything he has said about BioWare products is positive, then I think it's reasonable to assume that he's merely a mouthpiece.

 

If all you were saying is that he's affiliated with BioWare then I agree, and probably should have quoted someone else.

 

It's only reasonable for a person to make the assumption of "mouthpiece" as it appeals to their particular mindset. Some have reasonably concluded that Shinobi was simply sharing an opinion and if he didn't have something good to say he'd say nothing. The former sounds like paranoid character assassination and the latter healthy human behavior.

 

No matter which appeals to whom, this sparse bit of information offered by Shinobi is a welcome reprieve from the drought.



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You are at a very large disadvantage when making the 1st game of a possible series of games as you do not really know what works or doesn't work really well.  Story aside that is why some sequels seem a lot better and they often ride on the back of the success of the earlier game.

 

If BG is not very well received and does not do well BG2 does not get made or does not get the allotment of resources to it.  This also relates to actually using a new game engine. 

 

BG was a very good game, BG2 was a better game because it had a ton of advantages going into day one of development.

 

 

This is similar to the KotOR 2 example, we are going to be at a disadvantage versus making a sequel, but that doesn't really make the original retroactively better. Whether the reason is financial limitations, bad game design, or a lack of technology, that still is relevant to the overall quality of the final product. 



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Wait, how did we get to it being Liara's fault that Thessia fell and Kai Leng cutscened his way to victory?

Anyway. This Shinobi guy is basically a shill for companies, yet people seem to treat his words like the utterances of a nobel prize winner. Bizarre.

 

I still don't know who Shinobi is, so I basically don't hold his opinion in any level of regard.

 

but it's still the only minuscule amount of information that we've gotten out of the mass silence from BioWare, even if half of it was just a repeat of BioWare's own "Man this game is amazing. You guys are gonna love it!". This thread just serves to show how desperate we are for any and all information about the game.

 

Also, Thessia fell because the Asari were too stupid to share their Prothean beacon and Kai Leng can only ever get a victory via cutscene because he's too incompetent to win on his own merits.



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Thessia would have fallen regardless of whether Liara is on the squad or not. The mission wasn't even about saving Thessia, and Vendetta was programmed to withhold the information about the Catalyst until the Crucible was built anyway. How would Liara's perfomance against Kai Lame change that? Shepard even says that Thessia would have fallen even if we got there before Cerberus.
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Wait, how did we get to it being Liara's fault that Thessia fell and Kai Leng cutscened his way to victory?

Anyway. This Shinobi guy is basically a shill for companies, yet people seem to treat his words like the utterances of a nobel prize winner. Bizarre.

 

 

I cannot blame Shinobi or those companies in the first instance, I blame adult videogamers who behave as sea-sponges, senselessly absorbing anything coming to them.

 

I don't see the problem in believing that he's telling the truth. Or better, stating his personal opinions of what he saw. Him liking the game's graphics, music, and exploration doesn't mean I have to. Our values might be different. 

It's not like he has to be exaggerating the qualities of the game for markering purpose. People has different opinions. Granted, if he saw something he didn't like he'd surely not say anything.

 

A person doesn't have to be paranoic and see in everything the big gaming company trying to fool us with pretty marketing speeches or using some insider to make us excited for their games. I could think he's saying the truth on his opinion on the game, and keep a cautious attitute about the game until I look at the game for myself.

 

 

After all, even when Bioware themselves will talk or show the game, how can you be sure they're not exaggerating things, or purposefully showing us the better parts of the game while the rest is different? 



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It's only reasonable for a person to make the assumption of "mouthpiece" as it appeals to their particular mindset.

 

Not really. I don't want ME:A to fail, nor do I want this information to be false. I have no agenda here.

 

I don't believe that taking things with a grain of salt equates to unhealthy paranoia.


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Thessia would have fallen regardless of whether Liara is on the squad or not. The mission wasn't even about saving Thessia, and Vendetta was programmed to withhold the information about the Catalyst until the Crucible was built anyway. How would Liara's perfomance against Kai Lame change that? Shepard even says that Thessia would have fallen even if we got there before Cerberus.

For that matter, Thessia would have fallen regardless of whether Shepard managed to get the information from Vendetta or not.  Even if the Crucible was complete at that point.

 

Because they still had to get the Crucible to the Citadel and dock it.  That was going to take time, to relay the information, to mobilize the fleets, and get the Crucible underway. 

 

Thessia was falling RIGHT NOW!!!  Those asari Shepard heard dying over the com channels were dead no matter what.


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I don't see the problem in believing that he's telling the truth.

I'm playing ME:A beta right now, it is the rightful rpg successor to Dragon Age 2.

 

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Eh?  I don;t see a lot of evidence that people are hanging on each word.  Don't blame people for being interest in any bit of news about a game that they have essentially told us almost nothing about for a most of it's development.

Eh, for myself, even if we take what he says as absolute truth rather than putting the best face on a given feature, he still doesn't address the concerns I have.


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I'm playing ME:A beta right now, it is the rightful rpg successor to Dragon Age 2.

 

Tell... me...

 

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I'm playing ME:A beta right now, it is the rightful rpg successor to Dragon Age 2.

 

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False. I already datamined all information there is to know about the universe.

 

ME:A is actually just Big Rigs: Over the Road racing in space with Makos.


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Not really. I don't want ME:A to fail, nor do I want this information to be false. I have no agenda here.

 

I don't believe that taking things with a grain of salt equates to unhealthy paranoia.

 

It doesn't, but it does help to re-affirm things and provide optimism when we have been deprived of actual information for a while. 

 

I wrote a news piece on the information by Shinobi yesterday, basically my editors gave me the go-ahead because they deemed his information reliable enough to give us a little coverage on the topic, not to mention to tie into previous leaks such as the Alpha Footage a month back.

 

Even the news piece kind of explains it, where I say the point is not that there is anything new, but that is does give us some assurance that the game is on track.

 

Is it unreasonable to be optimistic on this? I agree we should be cautious until E3 at this point, but overall the little tidbits here and there that were revealed are still exciting enough because were starved for information.



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False. I already datamined all information there is to know about the universe.

 

ME:A is actually just Big Rigs: Over the Road racing in space with Makos.

 

Plus Dragon Age 2 was a pretty good game in its own way, so thats not really a criticism in my book. 


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What a pitiful person. Sociopaths don't feel empathy nor sympathy. That why I ruled them out.

You're confusing sociopaths with psychopaths. Psychopaths are born without the ability to feel emotions, sociopaths are born normal but made emotionally stunted due to traumatic upbringings or other life-altering events. Sociopaths can still feel emotions and have some measure of empathy and sympathy, but with great difficulty.
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You're confusing sociopaths with psychopaths. Psychopaths are born without the ability to feel emotions, sociopaths are born normal but made emotionally stunted due to traumatic upbringings or other life-altering events. Sociopaths can still feel emotions and have some measure of empathy and sympathy, but with great difficulty.

 

 

Ehhhh.  Not really.   They have learned how to emulate emotions like empathy and sympathy, but not really feel them.  Psycopathy is really mental defect of some type or disorder.  Sociopaths are really the ones who you have to look out for.  Look at Dexter, the cable TV show (Showtime).  Sociopath who learned how to emulate feelings, but in the end he felt nothing.



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You're confusing sociopaths with psychopaths. Psychopaths are born without the ability to feel emotions, sociopaths are born normal but made emotionally stunted due to traumatic upbringings or other life-altering events. Sociopaths can still feel emotions and have some measure of empathy and sympathy, but with great difficulty.

Sociopaths can't feel empathy or sympathy. Psychopaths are sociopaths though more prone to violence. P.S. sociopaths and psychopaths can mimic emotions.

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At least for me, pre-ordering when I can means guarantying the game when it's out. And I only do that with games I'm heavily anticipating - The Witcher 3, MGS5, BF1 being the most recent examples.

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I'm playing ME:A beta right now, it is the rightful rpg successor to Dragon Age 2.

 

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Shinobi proven himself by giving authentic details about games that weren't even announced. You, as far as I know. I do agree on the concept of not trusting what a random person say, but when said person has an history of giving correct informations and/or being shown games, I take his opinion a bit more seriously

Again, I'm not saying that we should all be excited about the game because he told so. Regardless if his posts were based on his truthful, althrough subjective opinion, or they're just marketing support for the devs, it's best to wait and see the game for ourselves. That doesn't mean I should treat his posts like a random troll or as something to not even considering. 


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@ Anderw Lucas: Then why not just DD the game?

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Plus Dragon Age 2 was a pretty good game in its own way


Dragon Age 2 had some good elements, but I think that to call it a pretty good game is an exaggeration.

(if this was some "indie" title, sure, but as an AAA game from EAware? More like a disgrace)



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Dragon Age 2 had some good elements, but I think that to call it a pretty good game is an exaggeration.

(if this was some "indie" title, sure, but as an AAA game from EAware? More like a disgrace)

Considering your opinion of Bioware (or at least yours since their acquisitions, since you keep calling it EAware)/EA, wouldn't you expect the game or their following games to not be that good anyway?



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Dragon Age 2 had some good elements, but I think that to call it a pretty good game is an exaggeration.

(if this was some "indie" title, sure, but as an AAA game from EAware? More like a disgrace)

um, disgrace? that's the exaggeration.

 

To be honest, Dragon Age 2 was in a league of its own. You either get it or you don't. I'm disappointed people didn't realize its quality and they'll never have that kind of quality writing again.


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um, disgrace? that's the exaggeration.

 

To be honest, Dragon Age 2 was in a league of its own. You either get it or you don't. I'm disappointed people didn't realize its quality and they'll never have that kind of quality writing again.

 

 

It took me a little while to get that.  Eventually I did.  Then I started to have fun with it and eventually enjoyed the game.  The writing rocks.  The environments, well, they could do better. 


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