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So, Shinobi said a bunch of things about Andromeda at the NeoGAF forums


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It depends on how big the planets are, to be fair.  We're all sitting here thinking of ME1 sized planets.  Which were still huge, you ever take off on foot and try and traverse a planet?  Took you an extremely large amount of time (about 30-45 minutes, if the terrain wasn't too rocky). 

 

I'm thinking that the planets in ME:A are gonna take us about 1.5 hours to 2 hours to explore and that's in the Mako which is much faster.  If we were to do it on foot, it might take us about 5.5-8 hours.   That's just a guess.  But I imagine that there will be large portions of these worlds where it will feel like an undiscovered world.  And small sections where it does not.  



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ME1 exploration was awesome

It was awesome until the umpteenth time you had to repeat it, it was one of the promising pros that has not been developed properly. ME1 is superior to ME2 and ME3 for many other reasons: story; character development (almost every character in the game); gameplay during exploration; gameplay during battles; factual dialogue choices that had content too; music; variety.

The weak points would be: primitive way of handling the party; limited exploration in some parts, similar to a railroad; many good sub-subquests, but unfortunately many of them are redundant; etc.

 

I think ME1 may be acclaimed for the wrong reasons, and this Shinobi guy is certainly enphasising those reasons too much.


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If he had bad things to say, I think he would just keep quiet. It's not like he was forced to make a statement; these are his own real opinions, made public of his own accord. He wants to talk about the game but not spoil things (it would be shitty for us and it would likely remove future inside access), ergo there are no real specifics.


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#129
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If he had bad things to say, I think he would just keep quiet. It's not like he was forced to make a statement; these are his own real opinions, made public of his own accord. He wants to talk about the game but not spoil things (it would be shitty for us and it would likely remove future inside access), ergo there are no real specifics.

 

 

Well, to be completely fair...   He would never be shown pre-release footage again, either.



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but should you slam a guy for expressing his opinion of some gameplay he saw?

Of course you should.



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It was awesome until the umpteenth time you had to repeat it, it was one of the promising pros that has not been developed properly. ME1 is superior to ME2 and ME3 for many other reasons: story; character development (almost every character in the game); gameplay during exploration; gameplay during battles; factual dialogue choices that had content too; music; variety.
The weak points would be: primitive way of handling the party; limited exploration in some parts, similar to a railroad; many good sub-subquests, but unfortunately many of them are redundant; etc.

I think ME1 may be acclaimed for the wrong reasons, and this Shinobi guy is certainly enphasising those reasons too much.

I wouldn't say superior. ME 3 was awesome but they should have spent more time on it and ME2 was arguably the best game in the series.

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Didn't saw a thread about it so I've decided to create one. For those who don't know, Shinobi is an insider in the game industry and has a good access with things related to BioWare. This past week he had the opportunity to see ME:A on action and spoke a few things about it on the NeoGAF forums. Of course, this doesn't contain spoilers and it's not too revealing but it's interesting nonetheless. The link to the whole thread is here (http://www.neogaf.co...d.php?t=1216753) and the screenshots of what he said are below. 

 

Spoiler

 

Thanks for this! There's a little more MEA candy then what was posted in the latest BW Update thread.

 

 

To remind everyone of what is probably meant by that.

 

Spoiler

 

I totally haven't seen this before. Thanks! Now, here's to hoping the E3 Play vid is nearly this packed. :D

 

Regard to exploration, i'm on Team Hammerhead.


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I wouldn't say superior. ME 3 was awesome but they should have spent more time on it and ME2 was arguably the best game in the series.

Not for me. ME2 was easily the worst of the trilogy for me. It went ME3 > ME1 > ME2. Not saying ME2 was bad. It had many great things like the Criminally underused Collectors, a few great squadmates like Legion and Kasumi and Grunt, my favorite LI of the franchise to date Kelly, etc. Just ME3 and ME1 were easily better. 


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To remind everyone of what is probably meant by that.

 

 

I was so incredibly annoyed to not find that "threaten the bartender" sequence in the final game. Still am, in fact.


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Not for me. ME2 was easily the worst of the trilogy for me. It went ME3 > ME1 > ME2. Not saying ME2 was bad. It had many great things like the Criminally underused Collectors, a few great squadmates like Legion and Kasumi and Grunt, my favorite LI of the franchise to date Kelly, etc. Just ME3 and ME1 were easily better.

You are a fascinating person! I've never heard of anyone like you before. But nice try.

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You are a fascinating person! I've never heard of anyone like you before. But nice try.

Thank you, I guess.

Nice try for what? 



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Thank you, I guess.
Nice try for what?

you're screwing with me aren't you?

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you're screwing with me aren't you?

No, I'm not. I am being genuine when I say overall Mass Effect 2 is my least favorite game in the Shepard Trilogy.



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No, I'm not. I am being genuine when I say overall Mass Effect 2 is my least favorite game in the Shepard Trilogy.

Well I can't stop someone from having an opinion, even if I feel it is wrong but I can respect it. I swear to God it's easier to convert a Buddhist to Catholicism.

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No, I'm not. I am being genuine when I say overall Mass Effect 2 is my least favorite game in the Shepard Trilogy.

 

You're far from the only one. A lot of Mass Effect fans aren't as in love with ME2 as the gaming media was. It's a deeply flawed game that betrayed what the series was supposed to be.


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No, I'm not. I am being genuine when I say overall Mass Effect 2 is my least favorite game in the Shepard Trilogy.

 

Which is a completely valid opinion.

 

While I did like Mass Effect 2 for some aspects, I did feel like it had some flawed ones especially the ones connected to its role as the middle piece of a trilogy. I can certainly understand why it would be the least favorite for some in the trilogy.
 


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I love ME1 so much, but I'm hoping they are just following quest/gameplay design, but not combat. ME3 was perfect in that


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You're far from the only one. A lot of Mass Effect fans aren't as in love with ME2 as the gaming media was. It's a deeply flawed game that betrayed what the series was supposed to be.

ah $#¡t.

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ME 2 had the best dlc(the firewalker, overlord, arrival), great characters like thane, awesome story about going into the galactic core and stopping the collectors from creating a human reaper, Miranda's body, great ending, etc. What's not to like?
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You are a fascinating person! I've never heard of anyone like you before. But nice try.

 

 

Well I can't stop someone from having an opinion, even if I feel it is wrong but I can respect it. I swear to God it's easier to convert a Buddhist to Catholicism.

 

ME 2 had the best dlc,l(the firewalker, overlord, arrival) great characters like thane, awesome story about going into the galactic core and stopping the collectors from creating a human reaper, Miranda's body, grrat ending, etc. What's not to like?

As a fan of Miranda...what does her body add to the game? :huh:

I like ME and ME2 equally, and for different reasons. They both have their pros and cons. Because of this is normal that some people like/love one game and dislike/hate the others.

 

Case in point, you name dlcs that I don't rate that high (they're not bad, but not as great in my opinion), and not the one I like the most of ME2 :P



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ME 2 had the best dlc(the firewalker, overlord, arrival), great characters like thane, awesome story about going into the galactic core and stopping the collectors from creating a human reaper, Miranda's body, great ending, etc. What's not to like?

 

That it was basically a dozen unconnected recruitment / loyalty missions followed by the (admittedly great) suicide mission? That the response to the ME1 inventory system being clunky was to just not have one?

 

I love all three games for different reasons, but 2 isn't the flawless masterpiece nostalgia would have us believe.


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This exchange is over. Every game has flaws. No more that needs to be said.

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But no one (I hope) thinks that what made ME1 good was the mineral hunts, or finding every damn colony insignia.
That's what it seems is being implied here - IF ME:A is like in ME1 in the way that it has elements of the saren arc, or the encounter with sovereign, or things like noveria or feros- than that is promising.
However all we hear is 'exploration'.


Well, as far as I'm concerned ME1 would have been a better game with all of the dev time for the UNC worlds put someplace else. But a lot of people did like running around on those worlds.

The problem with telling us that the italed stuff is going to be in the game is that it's awfully vague. What counts as being "like Noveria"? You'd have to be throwing out gigantic spoilers to make the case.

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Not for me. ME2 was easily the worst of the trilogy for me. It went ME3 > ME1 > ME2. Not saying ME2 was bad. It had many great things like the Criminally underused Collectors, a few great squadmates like Legion and Kasumi and Grunt, my favorite LI of the franchise to date Kelly, etc. Just ME3 and ME1 were easily better. 

 

This is how I rank the series myself as well, based on own personal enjoyment. I loved Mass Effect 3 and have put more hours into it (not including hours on MP here) than any other entry in the series. It had flaws. Ok a lot of flaws. And the ending was not good. But I loved it. 

 

Mass Effect 2 did a lot of things right, and has some things better over ME3 and ME1. But I find ME2 the weakest entry, especially on story, plot, narrative what have you. Recruiting all those great, unforgettable characters was awesome, and I really enjoyed the focus on character, but ultimately there was a huge disconnect between them, as well as some rather forced and contrived additions.

 

I love Kasumi, she's one of my favourites, but do we need a Master Thief for taking on the Collectors? It's not like there's a Collector equivalent of the Crown Jewels that might fetch a pretty credit on the Citadel.

 

Thane. Yes, he's a badass. But unless there are Collector/Templars, do we need an assassin per se? 

 

And I like Jacob. He's a likable character. But I honestly feel like you could have just condensed Miranda and Jacob into one person, you didn't need both of them. 

 

And the Collectors by the end of the game, had, for me, overstayed their welcome. 

 

Gameplay yes, it's great and more refined. The hub worlds, missions, everything else was great. But everything above mentioned pegs it down for me, and that's not taking into account some of the storytelling decisions in ME3, but the difference is with ME3, the plot moved forwards, for better or worse, and it didn't just stagnate like ME2's lack of plot. 

 

 

ME 2 had the best dlc(the firewalker, overlord, arrival), great characters like thane, awesome story about going into the galactic core and stopping the collectors from creating a human reaper, Miranda's body, great ending, etc. What's not to like?

 

Awesome for liking Miranda (I hope, as a person as well? she's a good character) but honestly i really don't see why Miranda's body is desirable.

 

Granted i'm gay, but seriously her body always appeared to me to be like a fetishised idealisation of a woman (I am aware of the whole perfect genes dna, i'm born to be perfect stuff ok) but even so, that body is just so unrealistically proportioned it makes Lara Croft in the early days look more like a real person. The arms on most of the female character models are like sticks, the outfit looks like it would cut off circulation from the body, and she's got weird calfs and ankles that don't look like they'd support a human body (may be the boots) and I have no idea how having her boobs strapped together so tightly could be comfortable. 

 

But of course no one cares cause of "dat ass".

 

I overlook the ridiculous character model, cause Miranda is a good character, and Yvonne did a great job voicing her. Its a shame they didn't just scan in her actual body along with her face instead of this Barbie doll model. 

 

That it was basically a dozen unconnected recruitment / loyalty missions followed by the (admittedly great) suicide mission? That the response to the ME1 inventory system being clunky was to just not have one?

 

I love all three games for different reasons, but 2 isn't the flawless masterpiece nostalgia would have us believe.

 

I honestly believe its the gameplay side of it for the time that rose tinted all those reviews. If some critics actually sat back and reflected on the state of the narrative, then maybe it wouldnt be held up as so masterful after all. 

 

I'm aware its a game and for entertainment, but with a game like ME2, game play can be amazing but surely a good story is just as important to entertainment as well as gameplay? I think the ball was dropped slightly on this one, and its why ME3 had a lot of weak story moments cause it had to make up for the narrative stagnation in ME2. 


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Its not the authenticity, more that it reads like a PR puff piece and should be treated as such.

Indeed and tbh its really just the same stuff we've been told ever since the game has been announced.